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June 01, 2017, 10:43:25 AM
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I don't think you'll have an rasy time finding a site like that dude. might as well just bet with your friends. that way you're also sure that it would be a fair betting : D

 
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June 01, 2017, 11:01:59 AM
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I don't think you'll have an rasy time finding a site like that dude. might as well just bet with your friends. that way you're also sure that it would be a fair betting : D

I also haven't seen any p2p site for betting online but the idea is good. Just like we use torrent to download movies/ software from Peer to peer systems,  something should be develop to allow p2p betting also.
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June 01, 2017, 12:31:34 PM
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any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

No I haven't heard or seen any of such site's and it would be absolute madness if a site implements this. How in the world would they make profit? They would end up in looses, plus if one user does not pay, the site would be termed as a scam, so no that's a stupid idea and I would not bet with such sites as this are not trust worthy to me, would recommend you to stay away from such sites or methods as it won't have good results.
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June 01, 2017, 12:50:05 PM
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This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.



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June 01, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
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There is one sportsbetting website that offers this, https://sportsbet.io
You can basically make custom prop bets against other players, if I'm understanding this correctly.

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June 01, 2017, 01:33:39 PM
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This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.

It's easy to make one but the big problem is how to prove to players that they are battling with real human. Chess and other P2P battle is prone to bot that's why it's hard to get players for some game like that.

The only effective gambling P2P that I see is sports betting. They can use escrow but optional. Although it's more profitable to bet on sports betting site, this gambling type is good for side betting or extra gambling activity just for fun. It was actively present nowadays iin our local forum community.
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June 01, 2017, 04:08:38 PM
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This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.

It's easy to make one but the big problem is how to prove to players that they are battling with real human. Chess and other P2P battle is prone to bot that's why it's hard to get players for some game like that.

The only effective gambling P2P that I see is sports betting. They can use escrow but optional. Although it's more profitable to bet on sports betting site, this gambling type is good for side betting or extra gambling activity just for fun. It was actively present nowadays iin our local forum community.

its need big money to invest in gambling p2p especially to created a site like that, because we need to rent a good hosting server to make sure that our site will works good and don't have any problem with the loading of the sites. i think to prove to players that they are battling with real human is when we can offers to them to use web camera and mic when they are battling each other so they can feel when they are really battling with other person.

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June 02, 2017, 03:20:45 AM
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any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

User to user games are hard to find. I think the rock paper scissors game is a versus game against another player. Though I am not very sure how fair that game is.

If you want to play games within the need to verify it, you can try to play games that are based on the blockchain.
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June 02, 2017, 10:42:25 AM
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This is not the first time that someone is looking for PvP bitcoin gambling site, and still there is nothing new about that. Someone should try to make some site, I would like to play chess for example for bitcoins, dominoes, ship and some other games for sure.
Someone should pay attention on this more, for now nothing is happening about it but I hope in future we will have some nice site where we can play this games against others for some little buy-in, and maybe big one depends from how sure you are in yourself.
I don't think chess can be made provably fair, you can be cheated/lose easily to bots/intelligent players again and again. just play dice against house. Wink
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June 02, 2017, 10:50:38 AM
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If you are looking for pvp gambling then you are not that lucky, most of the gambler is not interested in that game, because to prove the provably fair is really hard and they afraid of bot playing the game, so only few developers want to make that game and so far it is not too popular
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June 02, 2017, 12:37:28 PM
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any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

This option, when implemented on a dice site for example, arouse abusing. People after claiming the faucet play with their alts, which means they always win in any case. Then they withdraw from an alt which has won the most.

If you want to play with other players and not with the gambling site play poker. And if they use bots, like I heard some sites do, that's even better because you can easily turn that to your advantage.
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June 02, 2017, 01:34:58 PM
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any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.

No I haven't heard or seen any of such site's and it would be absolute madness if a site implements this. How in the world would they make profit? They would end up in looses, plus if one user does not pay, the site would be termed as a scam, so no that's a stupid idea and I would not bet with such sites as this are not trust worthy to me, would recommend you to stay away from such sites or methods as it won't have good results.
to me i personally never seen or heard about such site. although in physical casino we mostly play person to person betting, but in online world i never come across such thing. in my area some time even sitting on a road side we do p2p betting on different issues, but i think it is more risky because most of the time different conflict between the two parties arise which lead to a big clash between the two parties.
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June 02, 2017, 01:39:50 PM
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I haven't come across any gambling sites with user to user betting but I guess it's profitable and it's better betting with user rather than the house edge.
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June 02, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
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If you're talking about PvP betting then I don't think you'll find a probably fair betting site which let's you do it.
action-gamble.com provides a service where you can play Rock paper scissors, but it's not quite popular.

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June 02, 2017, 03:25:47 PM
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For sports betting, there is betbtc.co and fairlay. Although I get the impression that someone or a group are behind seeding fairlay bets.

Fairlay has more liquidity compared to betbtc,  but betbtc offerw live betting, although liquidity is quite low. They both are the closest thing to pvp/betfair/exchange betting.
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June 02, 2017, 09:45:46 PM
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any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
I am not finding any sire as per all of your criteria. If you are very much concerned about player vs player model, I guess you have the option of betting with your friends in real time. When you are preferring dealing in micro betting, I guess you can go for betting within your friends. Then there will be no need of any fairness proving system too... Wink

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June 02, 2017, 11:04:57 PM
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PvP betting.
I know of two of them thus far:
OneHash.com and  Betbtc.co from mentioned above.

I like the odds better from these sites than the normal betting sites. Grin
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June 03, 2017, 02:56:53 AM
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PvP betting.
I know of two of them thus far:
OneHash.com and  Betbtc.co from mentioned above.

I like the odds better from these sites than the normal betting sites. Grin
I don't find it better IMO, I prefer to bet on a sports book since they can offer me a lot of odds to choose from. PvP betting is only good if you are betting with the underdogs but if you are in the favorites, most bettors are on that side so the payout is definitely low.

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June 03, 2017, 12:36:54 PM
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any sites out and around that are popular?

Im looking to do micro betting on outcomes we can deem are guaranteed fair and not relying on knowing how to verify provably fair.
No. PvP betting is not popular among bitcoin community, it is really hard to come up with good pvp game and run fair and entertaining service.
I know some services which offered rock, paper scissors pvp game, but I don't think they captured attention of the community.

Micro betting is another problem - if someone is interested in micro gambling they usually just play with Dice, micro betting pvp is kinda pointless.


It's because it takes skill making a new game. Dice and roulette has been around for so long.

There is bustabit a crash based graph game. Then there is bitdouble. Which is the same thing but with roulette. I prefer them because you all in the same boat so it makes cheating less of s thing since you all lose not just one. When I say all I mean the ones who picked wrong.

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