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May 28, 2017, 09:39:58 PM
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What happened: So, I posted 2 days ago a topic about my tx being stuck . Hours later , Nachius contacted me and told me he could help me resolving the issue . He also told me that he will configure his pc to mine my transaction (he wants to mine it solo) and told me that it would cost me 16% of the amount of btc transacted (~1.83BTC) So I would have to pay 0.292 BTC .  I accepted because i thought he will use from his time to set up his pc , include it in a pool and use electricity , So I was okay to pay that amount . But after some minutes , the tx confirmed but it shows btc.com .
 I'm pretty sure he used pushtx.btc.com and paid 5$ . He literally lied to me and didn't mine it solo ! Furthermore he posted two reps on my account , because he tried to scam  Huh Huh Huh . Nevermind , here are the chats so you can understand . (Forgot to mention that users wanted also to access my blockchain wallet to do as he said a double spend ,
 and import my priv keys as well )

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138601

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936414.msg19228324#msg19228324

PM/Chat Logs:
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If you want to read text format : https://pastebin.com/eNLXTZQ2

Additional Notes: As well , Nachius in the end that he paid btc.com and he didn't mine it solo . he told me that he paid 0.1 to btc.com but the tx was 226 bytes and I already estimated the price in btc.com and it was ~5$
tx : https://blockchain.info/tx/6def5e3cf1446c688a6d90c611e93ba35d95c3f7412d061009b39c711f555967


Btw , I want this user to prove he is the owner of this account by signing an old address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1907590.msg18928682#msg18928682


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May 28, 2017, 09:43:34 PM
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By the way, when you're reading the conversation ,
Nachius told me to move my btc and told me to give access to my blockchain acc .
but , he knew that if I move the btc , the tx will never be confirmed (because of an unconfirmed parent) and this they will return back

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May 28, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
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You agreed to pay him the amount. Maybe he was hiding some things, but you agreed to pay him the amount you promised to pay.
But on the other hand, he said that "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" which is basically lying and not even hiding anything.
I would say maybe you can settle for a much lower amount, since he was being very dishonest but you still kind of owe him.


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May 28, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
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Just want to weigh in a bit, because I was originally helping the OP with their transaction, when it got confirmed partway through my communication with the OP (supposedly by nachius). That in itself is not a problem; I recognize that the approach I was taking took longer than it took to confirm the transaction by other means. However, I have some concerns about the fact that he requested private keys from you.

There's no reason for him to have requested private keys to create a double-spend; the only sensible thing to do is for him to construct the unsigned transaction and provide it to you for you to sign on your end. The fact that he asked for your private keys is a bit off, since such requests are not made/met lightly, especially not over the Internet to strangers. However, I cannot vouch for the truth of anything else mentioned on either side since I didn't communicate directly with nachius at any point.

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May 28, 2017, 09:56:44 PM
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You agreed to pay him the amount. Maybe he was hiding some things, but you agreed to pay him the amount you promised to pay.
But on the other hand, he said that "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" which is basically lying and not even hiding anything.
I would say maybe you can settle for a much lower amount, since he was being very dishonest but you still kind of owe him.
I agreed to pay the amount cause i thought this was the only solution and that he would do provide hard efforts to mine my tx with his own pc.
Besides , after I discover that the user was lying , I accepted to pay what he initially paid to btc.com

I'm okay with the rep he put to me because no one can delete it , but this user doesn't deserve to be part of the DT team

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May 28, 2017, 10:01:21 PM
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"I'm pretty sure he used pushtx.btc.com and paid 5$" Where is the proof of this?
Uncompleted scam accusation  Roll Eyes

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May 28, 2017, 10:12:45 PM
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"I'm pretty sure he used pushtx.btc.com and paid 5$" Where is the proof of this?
Uncompleted scam accusation  Roll Eyes
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May 28, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
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Just noticed Nachius has a neg rep from a user today stating :
 
"This individual scammed me $250 for Amazon gift cards. Been waiting over a week to receive the payment keeps coming up with excuses. Deal with EXTREME CAUTION. Will remove if he ever decides to pay up.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138601

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May 28, 2017, 10:21:02 PM
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Just noticed Nachius has a neg rep from a user today stating :
 
"This individual scammed me $250 for Amazon gift cards. Been waiting over a week to receive the payment keeps coming up with excuses. Deal with EXTREME CAUTION. Will remove if he ever decides to pay up.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138601

I invite this user to open a scam accusation as well
Yeah but there's not a valid reference link.  If you looked at my red trust before seeking a reference,  you would also say I was a scammer.   Curious how this turns out.

Edit: Didn't know he was on DT.  My trust list is customized.


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May 28, 2017, 10:24:35 PM
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Just noticed Nachius has a neg rep from a user today stating :
 
"This individual scammed me $250 for Amazon gift cards. Been waiting over a week to receive the payment keeps coming up with excuses. Deal with EXTREME CAUTION. Will remove if he ever decides to pay up.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138601

I invite this user to open a scam accusation as well
Yeah but there's not a valid reference link.  If you looked at my red trust before seeking a reference,  you would also say I was a scammer.   Curious how this turns out.
This is why I invited him to open a scam acc and post his proofs .
Nevermind , Nachius should be removed from DT team because he lies and tries scam me (selling me something that costs 5$ for 600$=)

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May 29, 2017, 01:54:58 AM
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Any solution ?
i'm sure this is a hacked account !
PROOF OF WHAT HE PAID TO BTC.COM
http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y

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May 29, 2017, 02:12:34 AM
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Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.


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May 29, 2017, 02:26:00 AM
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Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.



I didn't block you nor delete you as I've screened the conversation and put it here .
You Don't owe me anything because you told me no tool like viabtc or others work . But you used one of these tools to confirm this tx.
This is called lying dude.

Besides , this user puts a second neg rep to me  Huh Stating that I'm a blackmailer and shit?
Can I know how can I be a blackmailer and a hacker as you say when you wants to take my private keys lol?

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May 29, 2017, 02:35:34 AM
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whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it.
None of this concerns me, but this is a disingenuous attitude to take in general as it justifies ripping someone off.  It just isn't honest.  And if what he said was true, you mislead him into believing something didn't work so that you could overcharge him for your thing.  That's what it looks like from a disinterested 3rd party, and I've said enough.


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May 29, 2017, 02:50:47 AM
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Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
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May 29, 2017, 02:56:02 AM
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Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.



I didn't block you nor delete you as I've screened the conversation and put it here .
You Don't owe me anything because you told me no tool like viabtc or others work . But you used one of these tools to confirm this tx.
This is called lying dude.

Besides , this user puts a second neg rep to me  Huh Stating that I'm a blackmailer and shit?
Can I know how can I be a blackmailer and a hacker as you say when you wants to take my private keys lol?


Didn't delete me, right: https://gyazo.com/c9cd57b25ad244dbb04196614d50fb1f

I was originally going to mine it myself. You were giving me a damn hard time so I decided to take the cheaper option. You are a blackmailer. You are refusing to even send what I paid to btc.com. You said if I remove the trust, you will remove all the lies and posts that you put here. That is blackmail.

You deserve negative trust regardless, you had no intentions to pay 0.292 BTC in the first place. I legitimately wanted to help you until you started lying and bullshitting. If you want to fix things up, stop blaming me and pay-up.
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May 29, 2017, 02:58:42 AM
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Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
I already suggested to pay him what he paid to btc.com but he is still lying all the way.
https://i.imgur.com/Y5vH12Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
 (he told me he paid 0.1 btc to btc.com)
 
But :  http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y ( the real price )

Edit : I deleted you and blocked you 20 minutes ago . Let the community decide

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May 29, 2017, 03:05:46 AM
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Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
I already suggested to pay him what he paid to btc.com but he is still lying all the way.
https://i.imgur.com/Y5vH12Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
 (he told me he paid 0.1 btc to btc.com)
 
But :  http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y ( the real price )

Edit : I deleted you and blocked you 20 minutes ago . Let the community decide

No, you deleted and blocked me many times.

I said it was 0.1 to try and get a part of the 0.292 you owe me. I did not try to scam you in any way. You wanted to pay 0.292 for the service, so I told you I could do it for 0.292. You owe 0.292, nothing less. I did tell you I'd accept what I paid to btc.com (which was not $5) but you are still refusing.

Would you like to pay it?
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May 29, 2017, 03:16:33 AM
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Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
I already suggested to pay him what he paid to btc.com but he is still lying all the way.
https://i.imgur.com/Y5vH12Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
 (he told me he paid 0.1 btc to btc.com)
 
But :  http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y ( the real price )

Edit : I deleted you and blocked you 20 minutes ago . Let the community decide

No, you deleted and blocked me many times.

I said it was 0.1 to try and get a part of the 0.292 you owe me. I did not try to scam you in any way. You wanted to pay 0.292 for the service, so I told you I could do it for 0.292. You owe 0.292, nothing less. I did tell you I'd accept what I paid to btc.com (which was not $5) but you are still refusing.

Would you like to pay it?
The tx size wzs 226 bytes.
Btc.com would charge exactly 4.xx$ ^^'.
I already sent a screenshot with what btc.com would charge me .

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May 29, 2017, 03:26:53 AM
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whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it.
As a deal, Zaizoun should honour it by paying the agreed amount of 0.292 BTC. The deal was agreed by both of them at their own consent and they were fully aware of deal terms. Also nachius asked him twice.

As for nachius being in DT  it also isn't ethical to rip someone off by charging that high for which he himself paid low. I didn't expected such behaviour from a DT member.


IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.

That would be better. Smiley

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