Is it really impossible to find new RX470/480/570/580 4/8GB anywhere?!

[Spavvn]

I live in Europe, I contacted almost every bigger reseller and everyone is out of stock and waiting time is at least a month. Any store that has them in stock? 

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[PanneKopp]

If you want to find cheap stuff,
you have 2 be patiant,
otherwise you have to pay some premium
(I can offer some from germany, but I rather won´t like to sell)
even the same as trying to get a L3+ before august .

... that´s what we have actually in crypto mining market.

 

[RobertD]

MindFactory.de has some cards. https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-PowerColor-Radeon-RX-580-Red-Dragon-V2-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1173132.html

The distributors in Poland are told that the shortages are temporary and next shipment is 5-6/6/2017. Wholesalers have +1000 card orders waiting, so I don't know how long the shipment will last.

I know there more cards available in Australia, but shipping/vat is not worth it.

I've tested some RX 560 Sapphire 4GB and they run 14.5MHs 1300/2100, so half the speed of RX 470 and 60W at stock voltage. You might still be able to find some cheap RX 560 and put them into some cheap Dells/HP.

Have you considered used R9 290X or R9 280x??

[Spavvn]

Yeah, there are some even in UK, but not worth it due to shipping/vat.

I am building mining rigs, so I need higher density. Best option, so far, are R9 380X, nice hash rate and okay price.

I actually do have some old 280X/290X but the power consumption is too high.

I guess I will be waiting for next batch. I find it funny that you cannot find single RX GPU, even for gaming.

[XE14]

Search on low SEO-optimised websites and medium companies, like your hometown public IT reseller. I found many websites in my country (FR) that still sell RX (non Sapphire) that can reach 28/29MH.

[adaseb]

The RX570 seems sold out globally.

You can still buy the RX580 but its almost double from the 570 and less than 10% faster.

You can always buy NVIDIA 1060/1070/1080, they are always in stock but expensive.


Even if you buy the GPUs, you will most likely have trouble finding 5+ GPU motherboards.

Even if you buy the GPUs+Motherboards the USB risers from China have shipment delays of 90+ days. Unless you buy some domestically which are always overpriced.


Should at least temporarily stop the difficulty rise... for those already with a bunch of rigs.

[muf18]

What's the difference between GTX 1060 3GB and RX 470/570 4GB ?
I see the difference about 4-5MH/s (stock 20 vs 24-25, OC'ed 24 vs 29MH/s), and power consumption (about 40W higher with RX).
The price in my country seems the same or even lower than when RX's where in stock (but when RX was in stock for a while it was cheaper than GTX, now they catch up).

[patrike]

Some web sites here in Sweden are listing the RX470 as 50+ in stock, but I suppose it all depends on how large quantities you are looking for. The new RX 570 and 580 are typically only available in smaller quantities.

[toptek]

it's the same in the US right now unless you want to pay this

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V5MP6059


any place IVe looked in the US it's hard to find a good Price for a AMD Card all the places i looked at are either out of stock or have only one two cards on sell at very high prices, they normally don't sell for.

NV cards seem to be the only ones on sell from GTX 1060 and up at reason able prices ...

I don't know what happen ? does any one else ? . i can't fine much on the WEB why .

Was it something our ass holes leader did during his 9 day event they May have screwed the US .

[patrike]

it's the same in the US right now unless you want to pay this

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V5MP6059

That's really expensive. I bought the RX 570 version of exactly that card last week, and paid just above half of that price. And they are still available to buy for the same price this week.

[RobertD]

it's the same in the US right now unless you want to pay this

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V5MP6059


any place IVe looked in the US it's hard to find a good Price for a AMD Card all the places i looked at are either out of stock or have only one two cards on sell at very high prices, they normally don't sell for.

NV cards seem to be the only ones on sell from GTX 1060 and up at reason able prices ...

I don't know what happen ? does any one else ? . i can't fine much on the WEB why .

Was it something our ass holes leader did during his 9 day event they May have screwed the US .

Just buy the cards now for $500 and return them 2 weeks later I think Amazon does 30 day returns.

[toptek]

found one on best buy

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-570-4gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/5869603.p?skuId=5869603

hadn't look there yet @ 199 for a AMD 570, bought one .

[XE14]

Answer from Sapphire Technology I received today:

Dear XXX,

We are facing global GPU supply shortages and so we can't address your question precisely. Increasing the product availability is our top priority, but it will take a couple of weeks at least, it seems 😞

Best,
STC team

[64dimensions]

In concert will all this, it's interesting how the AMD vega delivery schedule is also slipping.

[topgeek]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

[Dowper]

Answer from Sapphire Technology I received today:

Dear XXX,

We are facing global GPU supply shortages and so we can't address your question precisely. Increasing the product availability is our top priority, but it will take a couple of weeks at least, it seems 😞

Best,
STC team

Really bad news...

[toptek]

Answer from Sapphire Technology I received today:

Dear XXX,

We are facing global GPU supply shortages and so we can't address your question precisely. Increasing the product availability is our top priority, but it will take a couple of weeks at least, it seems 😞

Best,
STC team

interesting but no one seems to know what caused it ? .I Mean did weather cause it and they can't get something out of the Ground because of weather . or it is some thing worse the Chip makers want a lot more money they are greedily as hell now .I wonder what caused it , I haven't seen any bad news headlines that might, other then trumps 9 day event that was a waste of US tax players Dollars imo .. or some thing far worse  they run out of the mats needed with no way of getting them or supply demand is at a all time high and everything sold out AMD wise , while you can still buy NV Cards all most any were at the same price they all ways were ...that should say a lot about AMD  "_)

OR AMD is about to go under, which would be bad for the Market , then Intel and NV can jack up prices ...AMD stops them both now.


two weeks can mean weeks sigh  NV sells will pick up for sure ..

[TheRider]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

[ltcsprite]

Anyone try these cards yet?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711QH8ZS/

[muf18]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

Omg. It's the cancer of this planet - looking for more profit, when difficulty is going skyhigh... Why everybody can't be good with 10-20-50 gpus even 100. No everybody whose in take not 10 but 200 cards burning lots of power (especially in Ukraine or Russia or Belarus where power cost is 2-4c), they mine like hell, but it's going to be less for everyone when they try to catch up with the biggest cake... 1000 gpus farms are now small... My god what it has ddone. About 19M Cards is mining eth alone? WTF?

[leowonderful]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks.  
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less.  

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

Omg. It's the cancer of this planet - looking for more profit, when difficulty is going skyhigh... Why everybody can't be good with 10-20-50 gpus even 100. No everybody whose in take not 10 but 200 cards burning lots of power (especially in Ukraine or Russia or Belarus where power cost is 2-4c), they mine like hell, but it's going to be less for everyone when they try to catch up with the biggest cake... 1000 gpus farms are now small... My god what it has ddone. About 19M Cards is mining eth alone? WTF?

Mining centralization just like with Bitcoin. We all knew this wasn't going to be "everybody gets a little bit" for long. AMD could give less of a fuck because their cards are selling like hotcakes, I personally hope Vega won't be like this or it'll be another shitshow. I assure you there are ten thousand card mining facilities out there. If Bitcoin had not gotten ASICs I guarantee you this situation would also have happened.

[adaseb]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

Omg. It's the cancer of this planet - looking for more profit, when difficulty is going skyhigh... Why everybody can't be good with 10-20-50 gpus even 100. No everybody whose in take not 10 but 200 cards burning lots of power (especially in Ukraine or Russia or Belarus where power cost is 2-4c), they mine like hell, but it's going to be less for everyone when they try to catch up with the biggest cake... 1000 gpus farms are now small... My god what it has ddone. About 19M Cards is mining eth alone? WTF?

What do you expect? Its pretty much free money. Who would say "no" to that.

[jMEGA]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

Omg. It's the cancer of this planet - looking for more profit, when difficulty is going skyhigh... Why everybody can't be good with 10-20-50 gpus even 100. No everybody whose in take not 10 but 200 cards burning lots of power (especially in Ukraine or Russia or Belarus where power cost is 2-4c), they mine like hell, but it's going to be less for everyone when they try to catch up with the biggest cake... 1000 gpus farms are now small... My god what it has ddone. About 19M Cards is mining eth alone? WTF?

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em

[Tmdz]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

Omg. It's the cancer of this planet - looking for more profit, when difficulty is going skyhigh... Why everybody can't be good with 10-20-50 gpus even 100. No everybody whose in take not 10 but 200 cards burning lots of power (especially in Ukraine or Russia or Belarus where power cost is 2-4c), they mine like hell, but it's going to be less for everyone when they try to catch up with the biggest cake... 1000 gpus farms are now small... My god what it has ddone. About 19M Cards is mining eth alone? WTF?

What do you expect? Its pretty much free money. Who would say "no" to that.

It's greed.

The people with a fuck load of capital want to crave themselves out a large slice of the pie, so they can earn more than the next farm.  But it is a vicious cycle, the more gpu's added the more you need to add to stay competitive and then electricity slowly eats away at the profit.  That is when a coin goes sideways instead of pumping.

It screws the small miners and gamers AND it screws AMD long term in the gaming market.  Gamers want a card can't buy AMD and see it is priced high so they go with Nvidia which shrinks their gaming market that they earn the most from.

Well that's just how the mining game works.

[fr4nkthetank]

in crypto people are greedy fucks, thats for sure.  nothing you can do about it I guess.  At least your not an ordinary person just trying to build a gaming rig, and wanted an rx580 or something.  Its like 7970 days all over again.  People smell money, and they'll milk it until they kill the cow.  it would be better to treat the cow good, but people are garbage.

[leowonderful]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks.  
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less.  

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

Yep, buddy of mine just lit up a 240 GPU mini farm last week hashing 7GH on ETH. Planning to add another 400 cards over the next few weeks, slowly turning into a mini whale.

Omg. It's the cancer of this planet - looking for more profit, when difficulty is going skyhigh... Why everybody can't be good with 10-20-50 gpus even 100. No everybody whose in take not 10 but 200 cards burning lots of power (especially in Ukraine or Russia or Belarus where power cost is 2-4c), they mine like hell, but it's going to be less for everyone when they try to catch up with the biggest cake... 1000 gpus farms are now small... My god what it has ddone. About 19M Cards is mining eth alone? WTF?

What do you expect? Its pretty much free money. Who would say "no" to that.

It's greed.

The people with a fuck load of capital want to crave themselves out a large slice of the pie, so they can earn more than the next farm.  But it is a vicious cycle, the more gpu's added the more you need to add to stay competitive and then electricity slowly eats away at the profit.  That is when a coin goes sideways instead of pumping.

It screws the small miners and gamers AND it screws AMD long term in the gaming market.  Gamers want a card can't buy AMD and see it is priced high so they go with Nvidia which shrinks their gaming market that they earn the most from.

Well that's just how the mining game works.

To be fair AMD is selling cards like hotcakes right now due to miners, it doesn't matter to AMD how or where they get their profit. 500 series is supposedly going to be decimated by Vega anyways, so there's little reason for them to ramp up production on these current cards. It'll satisfy both gamers and miners alike hopefully, but the question is if AMD will pump out cards fast enough or will money just pour into nVidia because of low supply.

[Marvell1]

1070s are in stock everywhere just buy those , they mine eth at lower power , dont need bios modding or baby sitting and can actually mine other algos better

not sure what all the angst is , just buy those.  yes you cant buy as many but you will save $$ on power

[RobertD]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

No cards available but difficulty is increasing? Someone is adding 100,000's of cards but nothing is moving thru the retail chain.
Too me it's sounding like AMD is mining ethereum themselves and just delaying shipments.

[muf18]

Look at what the Ethereum difficulty has done in the last 2 weeks. 
By the time you get those cards you are searching for they'll be earning 25% less. 

The impact of every AMD video card on the planet coming online:

http://www.coinwarz.com/difficulty-charts/ethereum-difficulty-chart

No cards available but difficulty is increasing? Someone is adding 100,000's of cards but nothing is moving thru the retail chain.
Too me it's sounding like AMD is mining ethereum themselves and just delaying shipments.

Or big miners just getting their cards through different channels. I'm buying 4x 1060 3gb cause it's not so worse than rx470 (like 20%), but instead of 150w it burns only 100w, so in the end it will burn less power. And I can actually sell nvidia after prices go too low to mine, with satisfactionary price and when they dump all rx's it will be half price again like with 7950 in 2014-15.

[leowonderful]

1070s are in stock everywhere just buy those , they mine eth at lower power , dont need bios modding or baby sitting and can actually mine other algos better

not sure what all the angst is , just buy those.  yes you cant buy as many but you will save $$ on power

Not as many is why people don't buy them. Nowadays people want the most cards for the most hashpower, really with GPU mines your margin of profit is so large that it is tiny when calculating total profit. Guys want the fastest profit, and it seems to be with AMD.

[RobertD]

Or big miners just getting their cards through different channels. I'm buying 4x 1060 3gb cause it's not so worse than rx470 (like 20%), but instead of 150w it burns only 100w, so in the end it will burn less power. And I can actually sell nvidia after prices go too low to mine, with satisfactionary price and when they dump all rx's it will be half price again like with 7950 in 2014-15.

Which 1060 are good? Is there anything to look out for? Like Samsung ram???

[phobosq]

I bought 5 570 in Poland in April from first delivery, but since a month it's impossible to find a decent card in retail apart from Asus Strix and alike priced for equivalent of 350+ euro. Even if you query distributors, you get unknown ETA. But a friend bought cards straight from caseking thanks to delay - they made a mistake in his order and offered him some 570s, so he took all 7 cards available they had. my guess is also that cards are sold before they even reach retail distribution.
And the market is so dried up, and people hyped, that it's even difficult to buy a second-hand Tahiti locally.
I've ordered 4x1060 6 GB for next rig to keep up with diff increase, but I'm not sure what happens when Vega/Volta arrive. I guess we have to hope for circle to complete like with 7970s - once bubble breaks, people will leave in panic and the market will slowly return to normal.

[rnahlawi]

Most cards got over priced and out of stock!
Keep updating this thread if anyone finds a good source please

[Drgreen451]

There are a few in the sale forum. But as soon as I mentioned a forum escrow he turned into a ghost.

[grchina]

new batch of asus 580 8gb is 380 euros and they were sold out in 2 hours in Hungary...Distributor said that chiniese miners are paying 30+ dollars then factory is asking to get them first so this might be the reason for no cards for the rest of the world

[Tmdz]

new batch of asus 580 8gb is 380 euros and they were sold out in 2 hours in Hungary...Distributor said that chiniese miners are paying 30+ dollars then factory is asking to get them first so this might be the reason for no cards for the rest of the world

That explains why the difficulty goes up but no one can buy any.

I suspected that the big farms would do something like that.

[dogjunior]

Just saw some powercolor red dragons for sale on newegg.com  RX 580 8GB for $279. Not too bad.


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131720&cm_re=rx_580-_-14-131-720-_-Product

[toptek]

Anyone try these cards yet?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711QH8ZS/

New egg now has the same card

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131720

at about the same price ...

best me to it nice

Just saw some powercolor red dragons for sale on newegg.com  RX 580 8GB for $279. Not too bad.


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131720&cm_re=rx_580-_-14-131-720-_-Product

[dogjunior]

Anyone try these cards yet?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711QH8ZS/

New egg now has the same card

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131720

at about the same price ...

best me to it nice

Just saw some powercolor red dragons for sale on newegg.com  RX 580 8GB for $279. Not too bad.


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131720&cm_re=rx_580-_-14-131-720-_-Product

Amazon is now on backorder for these cards. No estimate when they will be delivered. They played me once with this game. No stock and I waited 4 weeks then they canceled my order because they couldn't get any stock.

The  red dragon must be flying out the door at newegg. They had a limit of two per customer, now its one per customer.

[gateway]

Going to have to mine another coin when Ethereum goes to Capser.. guess it back to ETC or ZCash with all the mining power..

[adaseb]

It's greed.

The people with a fuck load of capital want to crave themselves out a large slice of the pie, so they can earn more than the next farm.  But it is a vicious cycle, the more gpu's added the more you need to add to stay competitive and then electricity slowly eats away at the profit.  That is when a coin goes sideways instead of pumping.

It screws the small miners and gamers AND it screws AMD long term in the gaming market.  Gamers want a card can't buy AMD and see it is priced high so they go with Nvidia which shrinks their gaming market that they earn the most from.

Well that's just how the mining game works.

Welcome to Capitalism.

Its not only mining where its like that. Where there is easy money to be made, others pounce as fast as they can. Nobody wants to do manual labour anymore or work for minimum wage.

For example,

Look at the entire E-Cigarette/Vap market. A few years ago there were no stores and now there is a store on every corner selling them since the demand is crazy high and they got huge mark-up and the owners are making crazy profits.