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Question: Do you need an easy security solution for bitcoin? (described below)
yes - 243 (69.8%)
would be nice but not urgent - 81 (23.3%)
not at all - 24 (6.9%)
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June 22, 2011, 10:06:10 PM
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You should actually do this and sell it as a product.  No doubt several people would be willing to pay for this, and it would help the community a great deal.

I had this idea as well. We'll see, I'd prefer to release everything for free though. Maybe I'll sell preconfigured USBsticks.
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June 27, 2011, 12:10:24 AM
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Ridiculously small tip sent... more to come as it is acquired. I am great with computers, but linux confuses the isht out of me. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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June 27, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
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It's not ridiculously small. I appreciate it!
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June 27, 2011, 11:54:03 AM
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After writing the HOWTO on 100% security, a lot of you requested I do the same thing in a more comprehensible way, or that I provide a solution for absolute beginners.

So here's the deal: I have to know if you are serious enough, and if this is worth the trouble. Because if I do this, I'll do it properly, i.e I will test everything I write, there will be an easy guide for Linux, Mac and Windows and I will probably make a one-click solution, which will consist of a specific LiveCD, which already has bitcoin installed, and which will allow you to boot up a secure system and make transactions, without _any_ configuration necessary.

I did personalized LinuxCDs before, so this will definitely do-able. The result will be a solution for people with zero computer knowledge.

However, since this will take time and effort and since anybody can just click yes on the above poll, I'm asking for donations if you are _really_ serious about having an all-in-one solution. You don't have to send me anything at all, it's up to you.

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If you happen to find this proposal insulting (which is, that I don't want to spend a week making something that nobody uses), feel free to insult me in the comments below.


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June 27, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
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I really wish i can send something but i am a newbie. thats why i am stuck in this section. Ubuntu is great!. Hopefully when you have one pre-configured livecd, we can even setup openvz templates or kvm ISO to move forward.

=P i am an ubuntu lover, havent seen anything that works on Ubuntu GUI for Bitcoin. Or did i not search enough.
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June 27, 2011, 05:05:12 PM
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I made a really easy to follow tutorial on how to make a secure savings wallet in Ubuntu. Very step by step and newbie friendly.

http://startbitcoin.com/how-to-create-a-secure-bitcoin-wallet/

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June 28, 2011, 04:09:06 AM
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I bet using my script BOTG at: https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23081.0
You could probably get an Live CD that's only about 20 MB to download! Just remove everything but bash,openssl,etc. I tried with tiny core linux but was having problems with their ash interpreting the script. Just burn, reboot, write down stuff, turn off computer. Any savings can then be sent to the address. Fool proof and very secure. It just needs to be tested to see if it works! LOL.

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June 28, 2011, 04:14:24 AM
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it could become a nice open source project.

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June 28, 2011, 02:23:59 PM
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Security and the ability to open different wallets.
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June 29, 2011, 02:48:07 PM
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It seems to me that wallet security and ease of backups, etc., is the number one thing that bitcoin needs right now to help with mass market adoption. Keep up the good work!

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July 07, 2011, 07:44:11 PM
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I'm interested in this. Specifically I'm interested in a best-practice, dummy proof, explanation of how how securely self-manage savings and 'day-to-day' wallet(s) using macs. I'd be willing to test any instructions and give feedback on clarity, ambiguity, questions etc.

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July 12, 2011, 07:16:36 PM
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I'm working on a similar implementation, but with some advantages over the livecd metod. I'm one of the mantainer of a  small distro build from scratch (openmamba). This distro as a quite unique peculiarity with liveusb media. Instead of installing the files on the usb stick you've to put some file for the boot and the ISO on it. So you've the advantage of only a medium (you can put your wallet on a separate partition, or in a file encrypted) and on the other side you're sure that your distro is secure.

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July 20, 2011, 02:20:56 AM
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I'll send something to you as soon as I have more than the .001 from the faucet.

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July 24, 2011, 02:55:29 AM
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would absolutely LOVE you if you could make a dummy proof system. spent like 2 hours in the Ubuntu thread and i'm still lost =[

Once I start making some more coins, I'l gladly send you a nice tip. Thanks!
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July 25, 2011, 07:13:08 PM
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So here's the deal: I have to know if you are serious enough, and if this is worth the trouble. Because if I do this, I'll do it properly, i.e I will test everything I write, there will be an easy guide for Linux, Mac and Windows and I will probably make a one-click solution, which will consist of a specific LiveCD, which already has bitcoin installed, and which will allow you to boot up a secure system and make transactions, without _any_ configuration necessary.

aiwk171:

Have you made any progress on your decision to help with a LiveCD?

Everyone:

Get those donations flowing. The poll shows this is wanted. Put your money where your mouth is.
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August 12, 2011, 06:28:44 PM
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Is this still in the works?
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August 13, 2011, 09:55:05 AM
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You should actually do this and sell it as a product.  No doubt several people would be willing to pay for this, and it would help the community a great deal.

I had this idea as well. We'll see, I'd prefer to release everything for free though. Maybe I'll sell preconfigured USBsticks.

i think the download should be free and you can sell physical versions for a small profit.

i want to be able to recommend bitcoin to a friend (while at their house), then go and download it for them instantly, put it on a stick, and hand it to them saying "here is your new wallet". [edit] and now that i am reading the original post about creating a 100% secure wallet, i would also expect that there is some auto encryption software on that too (auto encrypt on big savings wallet, and leave the small portable wallet untouched)[/edit]

can it be on CD? if so, where is the wallet stored? is that why you only mentioned USB sticks? is there a way to protect the stick so they don't delete their wallet? maybe it could automatically repartition the stick for them if they want to be able to use the stick for other things too (actually this is making it too complicated and dangerous - they would still start deleting files off the wrong partition one day in error).
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August 13, 2011, 09:58:55 AM
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actually i might donate also. warning: my idea of unbelievably small is probably even smaller than everybody elses!
i guess i will give it 24 hours before i decide as i have only spent 1 evening reading about the bitcoin concept, and today i am looking at ways of how to purchase bitcoins (which is why i joined this forum in order to ask a newb question)
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August 13, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
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Is there really a demand for this?
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August 13, 2011, 10:04:00 PM
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Is there really a demand for this?

Well, secure wallets -- or at least secure wallet backups -- could be a prized possession for people who deal in large enough sums. It's certainly been a problem for the Exchanges.  Undecided

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