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Question: when is the issue going to be solved, if ever? does it need to be?  (Voting closed: May 31, 2017, 03:25:59 AM)
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6 months - 7 (31.8%)
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never solved, just keeps returning like Brett Favre - 10 (45.5%)
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May 30, 2017, 03:25:59 AM
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i mean how long can the debate last? or is it just gonna keep popping back up into discussion

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May 30, 2017, 03:49:41 AM
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In my opinion, scaling problem can be an embedded problem of Bitcoin. Hopefully, before the end of 2017 we can see some solutions already implemented but there is a possibility that soon we can experience some problems again. By that time, we are just hoping that Bitcoin leaders have already some plans on dealing with that. Bitcoin has a scaling problem because it is the number one cryptocurrency and has the most number of transactions everyday.

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May 30, 2017, 03:56:09 AM
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I have NO IDEA when the scaling problem(s) will be solved, nor how.  So I chose the "Bret Favre" option (never).

While I am perturbed (and that's putting it nicely) with the SW v. BU (or whatever the sides call themselves now), and what I also fear & suspect is that all of this will be repeated ad infinitum because the WANKERS will not think long-term...  And we will have continuing unnecessary drama every damn year, from now til Kingdom Come.

"A little birdie" some of us know may be working on a *NEW* solution.  Will it happen?  Will it be any good?  Will people accept it over the 700 other coins?  We'll see!
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May 30, 2017, 04:27:58 AM
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Soonish, because everyone involved knows that real life people need this problem to be solved if they are actually going to use it. Otherwise the Bitcoin insider crowd is going to look pretty petty and unhelpful, that's​ for sure.

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May 30, 2017, 04:30:39 AM
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i mean how long can the debate last? or is it just gonna keep popping back up into discussion
IIRC there is a segwit agreement that should be being implemented sometime soon and that would be one way to solve the scaling debate, but if something changed and that's not longer what's happening then chances are we're going to be talking about it until another proposal rolls around, or something else happens. I don't know if the community is going to be able to switch on its own to be honest. Agreements and deals seem to be paramount to fixing this.














 

 

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May 30, 2017, 05:41:52 AM
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If they manage to implement SegWit and the Lightning network, the scaling issues will not be an issue anymore. If they implement bigger blocks with Bitcoin Unlimited, then the scaling problems will stay with us as adoption grows and bigger blocks are needed.

Some people seem to think the 1st of August will be the first step in solving this issue, but it only complicates matters in my opinion. < Chain splits and soft forks will only confuse people >

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May 30, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
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I think the both sides are already done with arguing on the scaling issue of bitcoin and based on the rumor that i heard, the winner is the bitcoin core team which they will apply segwit first and it will add some size for the blocks which is just like what happened in litecoin and it will make transactions faster and it will provide cheaper fees.

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May 30, 2017, 11:20:27 AM
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i mean how long can the debate last? or is it just gonna keep popping back up into discussion

I think it will either be solved in the next 6 months or never.
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May 30, 2017, 11:47:00 AM
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I think the both sides are already done with arguing on the scaling issue of bitcoin and based on the rumor that i heard, the winner is the bitcoin core team which they will apply segwit first and it will add some size for the blocks which is just like what happened in litecoin and it will make transactions faster and it will provide cheaper fees.

That is also the news I heard, seems like the decision is going to used the core, there wont be any fork or unlimited amount, so it can be concluded that the scaling problem has been solved, but I havent know the result for sure

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May 30, 2017, 02:17:34 PM
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I think the both sides are already done with arguing on the scaling issue of bitcoin and based on the rumor that i heard, the winner is the bitcoin core team which they will apply segwit first and it will add some size for the blocks which is just like what happened in litecoin and it will make transactions faster and it will provide cheaper fees.
Shouldn't the lightning and segwit solutions be tested more thouroghly before we could see these as a good solution to scaling

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May 30, 2017, 05:04:01 PM
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i mean how long can the debate last? or is it just gonna keep popping back up into discussion

Sometimes I wonder what is more annoying , to wait 8 hours for a confirmation or to read everyday 8 threads about the scaling issues and the segwit war.

My personal stance is right now...live with it.
If it's going to be solved it going to someday.
If not , nothing I can do about it.It won't be the end of this world because of that

Shouldn't the lightning and segwit solutions be tested more thouroghly before we could see these as a good solution to scaling

see litecoin

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May 30, 2017, 05:45:10 PM
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i mean how long can the debate last? or is it just gonna keep popping back up into discussion

Sometimes I wonder what is more annoying , to wait 8 hours for a confirmation or to read everyday 8 threads about the scaling issues and the segwit war.

My personal stance is right now...live with it.
If it's going to be solved it going to someday.
If not , nothing I can do about it.It won't be the end of this world because of that

Shouldn't the lightning and segwit solutions be tested more thouroghly before we could see these as a good solution to scaling

see litecoin
the system capacity isn't being pushed nearly enough to show if segwit and lightning are gonna be effective i believe

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May 30, 2017, 05:46:08 PM
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May 30, 2017, 05:55:20 PM
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Miners are never going to agree because miners want to maximize their profits so this means delaying any possible scaling. In order to make scaling happen, you must run an UASF node and sell your coins for UASF coins and tell every exchange and wallet to run UASF. This way, miners will get scared and snowball effect will kick in, and they will be forced to mine the segwit chain.

In other words, you don't negotiate with terrorists, you UASF.

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May 30, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
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From my experience, I think they should follow the example of litecoin and the implementation of Segwit. Once that happened,  the price of Litecoin went up quickly.
I think Bitcoin core members were arguing about the right way to continue, eg Bitcoin Unlimited etc.
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May 30, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
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I do not think that the scaling problem will be solved there maybe some patches to fix the current scalability issue, but eventually the issue will reoccur.  It is like a problem that were attached to bitcoinj eversince its creation.  As more users transact the more possibility that the block will be filled.  So I guess  scalling issue wont be solved.



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May 30, 2017, 07:02:17 PM
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Very soon. Segwit2x has all the support minus Blockstream and the r/bitcoin echo chamber (which is just braindead users parroting "uasf" anyway). Industry will fork to big blocks soon. Corestream will agree or get left behind with their shitty settlement altcoin.

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May 30, 2017, 07:06:50 PM
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Miners are never going to agree because miners want to maximize their profits so this means delaying any possible scaling.

Same thought here but then again, this action may drive away current and possible bitcoin users. That will set the price back which will affect them greatly. Miners might take that into consideration and may agree on a solution eventually.

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May 30, 2017, 07:09:04 PM
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Miners are never going to agree because miners want to maximize their profits so this means delaying any possible scaling.

Same thought here but then again, this action may drive away current and possible bitcoin users. That will set the price back which will affect them greatly. Miners might take that into consideration and may agree on a solution eventually.

If miners wanted to scale bitcoin, they would activate segwit immediately. Whey aren't they doing this? (and by then, I mean mostly bitmain which controls a lot more hashrate with what meets the eye due bribing etc). Well, fees, covert asicboost etc. They want power and higher fees.

This year SOMETHING will happen, and that something may be UASF.

Nobody is stainlling non-Core approved software, so the NYC agreement is out of the question.

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May 30, 2017, 09:41:14 PM
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Nobody is stainlling non-Core approved software, so the NYC agreement is out of the question.

Bitcoin economy is behind 2017 NY agreement which mean SegWit+2MB HF and finally resolving the scalling issue this year. So I am optimistic.
https://medium.com/@DCGco/bitcoin-scaling-agreement-at-consensus-2017-133521fe9a77

Bitcoin is decentralized, no need to get approval from Core group. It is your problem if you need Core approved software to track Bitcoin chain and Core wont update their software in time.
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