Trump pulling out of Paris Climate Deal - Here's why I think it's great!

[2bfree]

First Disclosure before you attack me as Trump supporter!

I don't like liberals like Trump! So no I'm not a Trump supporter! I don't like Trump or Hillary another nut-case liberal freedom hater!

But I think any global accords are bad for humans on this planet so pulling out is fantastic! So I support it. What do you think?

PS: My country is a liberal freedom hater-crap hole, that is a Hillary lover, but all I have is to complain like about Trump for example, not that is will do any good every year I loose more and more freedom and am more regulated in my third world country.

[mightydollar]

First Disclosure before you attack me as Trump supporter!

I don't like liberals like Trump! So no I'm not a Trump supporter! I don't like Trump or Hillary another nut-case liberal freedom hater!

But I think any global accords are bad for humans on this planet so pulling out is fantastic! So I support it. What do you think?

PS: My country is a liberal freedom hater-crap hole, that is a Hillary lover, but all I have is to complain like about Trump for example, not that is will do any good every year I loose more and more freedom and am more regulated in my third world country.

This is not about liberals and conservatives. This is bigger than politics. This is about our planet - our home getting rekt by our savage abuse of the environment. Go tell the polar bears that global accords are bad for humans. Go tell that to the people of coastal settlements which are going to be swallowed by the sea.

[Lancusters]

Trump positioned in the world as primitive man. He was not interested in what will happen to the world, he is not even able to understand that a very large part of America is located in the coastal zone. Even his 58 story skyscraper on 5th Avenue will go under water. But all this pales before the possibility of saving several hundred million on the environment.

[bartolo]

I think several factors come together. Politicians who don´t believe in climate change and who will not believe anything until the day the ocean reaches their ankles. These politicians are servants of the great corporations that cause planetary pollution. These corporations don´t mind polluting, they only want to earn more money no matter what, they will not suffer the effects in the climate because they will already have died and their children and grandchildren will have money to emigrate to the few habitable zones that will remain in the planet. In the meantime people are still recycling and taking other measures that in the end are insufficient. I sincerely think that there is no reversal or solution.

[crypto_ranger]

Oh well, maybe bringing the Atlantic coast to Chicago is a part of Trump's idea to make America great again

I'd give him a bit more time, despite this flaw I still think he'll be better than Obama was. I mean it's not that hard to be better than Obama.

[darkangel11]

China and United states are the biggest pollutants, with US having a very high carbon dioxide per capita level (over 2 times higher than China and the EU).
If I were Trump I'd feel ashamed to be leading the country that is pumping so much shit into the atmosphere and isn't even trying to do something about it.

[GreenBits]

Oh well, maybe bringing the Atlantic coast to Chicago is a part of Trump's idea to make America great again

I'd give him a bit more time, despite this flaw I still think he'll be better than Obama was. I mean it's not that hard to be better than Obama.

You are right, apparently all you need is a dick, and not to be Black, in order to past muster  Shit, you don't even have to be a politician, you can be an actor and be better than Obama.

Again people, you may not have liked Obama, I get that. But bullshit if you prefer this.

Edit: seems Tesla is using himself as a bargaining chip, he says he will quit if Trump pulls out. Interesting indeed, Tesla is a gem.

[copperKO]

US pulling out of perhaps the last best chance of a coordinated response to climate change. Result is estimated 30bn tones/year of extra CO2 for the atmosphere. Enough to raise temperatures and raise sea levels. The poorest will pay.

[GreenBits]

US pulling out of perhaps the last best chance of a coordinated response to climate change. Result is estimated 30bn tones/year of extra CO2 for the atmosphere. Enough to raise temperatures and raise sea levels. The poorest will pay.

The poorest always pay when corporate greed rears its head. Because of this, politicians have become adept at spinning these things to have a bogeyman other than the corporate sponsor that is responsible. Besides driving cars, the average American isn't the major reason behind global warming. It takes industrial production to make an impact of this magnitude, and these guys don't even have the decency to pay proper taxes.

We fucked up bad when we gave corporations personhood.

[Sithara007]

Trump did the right thing. Other nations such as Saudi Arabia and China are causing more pollution (on a per capita basis), and still the burden of reducing the climate change is falling on just the western nations and Japan. Everyone has to share the burden. 

[bones261]

Covfefe. Bigly covfefe.

[xhomerx10]

Covfefe. Bigly covfefe.

 Things were so much better under the "TelePrompter-in-Chief" 
Perhaps "covfefe" is the Austrian term for "wheeling-and-dealing"?

[Spendulus]

Trump positioned in the world as primitive man. He was not interested in what will happen to the world, he is not even able to understand that a very large part of America is located in the coastal zone. Even his 58 story skyscraper on 5th Avenue will go under water. But all this pales before the possibility of saving several hundred million on the environment.

Do you seriously believe that a deal between corrupt politicians will stop the natural movement of the oceans, whatever it may be?

[dwgscale11]

Rothschilds + Rockefeller are running the show:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/22/donald-trump-paris-climate-deal-change-open-mind

Human caused climate change is ABSOLUTELY impossible. Human caused environmental degradation happens often, but environment is not climate.

Even a nuclear winter would not be a permanent climate change. After some years or decades, the earth would resume the climate that is dictated and controlled by the Sun and the internal heat of the Earth.

We are just but little specks of dust crawling on the surface of the earth and have no where near enough impact to the thermodynamics to have any meaningful impact on the climate.

Please spread this message to the spoiled-brat Millennials

I know politics is not your interest. But you are smart enough to understand why "everything equal" is always horrific failure that leads to war and megadeath. Please read this quote and understand why you must stop teaching your friends and kids the bullshit about "the rich are evil and everything must be equal". The Ten Commandments tell us not to covet what our neighbor has (and that includes accusing every rich person of being corrupt when in fact many people get rich by hard work!). The "99% versus 1%" movement is Satan whoreship!

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that.

I had a conversation in a hotel with someone who was very much a believer in man created global warming. I began to notice a pattern to their thinking. When you test anything, you must see how it is connected to other reasoning. What emerged was a fundamental belief that government is good and there to take care of you until you die. This notion appears to be linked to those who just want to be taken care of, but not to the point that they are on welfare. They will pretend to be independent thinking individuals, but there is a core surrender of independence because they do not want to think no one is in charge. They voted for Hillary as well, and this all seems linked to this desire not to be responsible for the future in a subtle way. Perhaps it is linked to childhood when you did not have to work or cook. They just took care of you. It seems that those who believe in global warming are more likely to trust government. What happens when they wake up and discover nothing is as they thought it would be?

I am becoming deeply concerned that the United States is headed into its version of a communist revolution under the label “progressive” and the bankers, who Larry Summers has always supported, will be used as the scapegoat for Wall Street and the “rich” who have to be stripped of their liberty and their money for the “good of the people” as they always say. The United States does not look like it will be a country we can recognize by 2032 if we can even make it past 2024. The United States will most likely break apart by 2036. There are separatist movements rising in many areas from Vermont and Texas to California, who reasons they voted for Hillary not Trump justifying their departure.

The entire purpose of eliminating cash is to strip us of our assets, liberty, and to prevent bank runs. The youth, who have been brainwashed by Bernie Sanders and people like Elizabeth Warren, will turn against the older generation and enslave them if at all possible. This threatens our future with outright civil war. They will not be satisfied until they destroy the freedom of their opposition. It is starting to appear that 2036 is our date with destiny.

I saw NBA legend Kevin Garnett using the term "not progressive enough" on national TV in his condemnation of coaching great Phil Jackson (when Jackson referred to Lebron's "posse").

[PeterTheGrape]

First Disclosure before you attack me as Trump supporter!

I don't like liberals like Trump! So no I'm not a Trump supporter! I don't like Trump or Hillary another nut-case liberal freedom hater!

But I think any global accords are bad for humans on this planet so pulling out is fantastic! So I support it. What do you think?

PS: My country is a liberal freedom hater-crap hole, that is a Hillary lover, but all I have is to complain like about Trump for example, not that is will do any good every year I loose more and more freedom and am more regulated in my third world country.

You say in your signature "Consultant (Not taking new clients right now)", so we know from the start you are kind of a bullshitter. What is the point of advertising that you are a 'consultant', if you are not taking clients? More bullshit flows from your post. You want the "freedom" to do as you like without basic ethics, but you know that you only have an advantage when other people do have ethics. But you sense that your predation is not sustainable, so, like all crooked people you try to gain supporters using sophistry and bizarre logic. You are selling tickets on the titanic.

[mindrust]

Another big news: Elon is also honoring his word and departing Trump's presidential councils.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/01/elon-musk-leaving-trump-advisory-councils-following-paris-agreement-withdrawal/

I think this decision of Trump was a very dangerous one and it will cause massive fractures among all Americans and the American companies which were against it.

Pissing off the biggest business owners in the US ain't the brightest idea.

[PeterTheGrape]

Another big news: Elon is also honoring his word and departing Trump's presidential councils.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/01/elon-musk-leaving-trump-advisory-councils-following-paris-agreement-withdrawal/

I think this decision of Trump was a very dangerous one and it will cause massive fractures among all Americans and the American companies which were against it.

Pissing off the biggest business owners in the US ain't the brightest idea.

That is distorting the issue.

Credible scientists are in agreement that CO2 is causing a problem, and that burning coal etc is accelerating the problem, and that humanity and other life forms on earth are going to be living in a different environment soon as a result.

The "big business owners" fall into two groups.

a) Trump type business owners, who are willing to sacrifice their children's planet for the sake of temporary financial gain

and

b) more responsible business owners who are willing to adapt and/or give up a little profit to minimize the damage done.

People who distort the issue, for their own short term benefit, are not even serving themselves much less anybody else's interests.

[Lancusters]

Trump did the right thing. Other nations such as Saudi Arabia and China are causing more pollution (on a per capita basis), and still the burden of reducing the climate change is falling on just the western nations and Japan. Everyone has to share the burden.  

Before you sing the praises of this idiot Trump remember that to date only two countries have not signed the Paris agreement — Syria and Nicaragua. Russia, Iran and the DPRK has not yet ratified it. Barack Obama, who has put his signature under the Paris agreement, declare today, June 1, because of Trump's "the United States joined the handful of countries that reject the future".
Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner tried to persuade the President not to withdraw from the Paris agreement. But they did not succeed. During his speech, Donald trump in the Rose garden, Ivanka and Jared were absent. Even Ivanka already knows that Trump out of his mind.

[Spendulus]

...Even Ivanka already knows that Trump out of his mind.

Bah.

Made up political horseshit.

Here's another point of view.

All he did was fulfill a campaign promise.

So blame the people like me, who voted for him.

[bones261]

...Even Ivanka already knows that Trump out of his mind.

Bah.

Made up political horseshit.

Here's another point of view.

All he did was fulfill a campaign promise.

So blame the people like me, who voted for him.

Well, I guess he has to take the opportunity when he can to fulfill a promise. After all, the Republicans in congress are not being very cooperative with other items on his agenda. I'll be shocked if they ever pass a decent infrastructure bill. That's one of the few promises that he made that I could really get behind.

As for Ivanka, nice try, but I personally have no clue why the Trumps are trying to win over the LGBTQ community. Milo is definitely the exception and not the rule.