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May 31, 2017, 05:48:36 PM
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This is a story resulting from a research study at Brunel University in London. “Physically Weak Men More Likely to Be Socialists.” (laughing) What timing! I said, “This is a godsend.” It is a woman that’s writing the story here. “Surprise, surprise. Men who are physically weak are more likely to favor socialist policies. An academic study from researchers at Brunel University London assessed 171 men, looking at their height, weight, overall physical strength and bicep circumference, along with their views on redistribution of wealth and income inequality.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/05/26/study-physically-weak-men-more-likely-to-be-socialists/

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This is a story resulting from a research study at Brunel University in London. “Physically Weak Men More Likely to Be Socialists.” (laughing) What timing! I said, “This is a godsend.” It is a woman that’s writing the story here. “Surprise, surprise. Men who are physically weak are more likely to favor socialist policies. An academic study from researchers at Brunel University London assessed 171 men, looking at their height, weight, overall physical strength and bicep circumference, along with their views on redistribution of wealth and income inequality.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/05/26/study-physically-weak-men-more-likely-to-be-socialists/
“Physically Weak Men More Likely to Be Socialists..

Does that mean people who believe in social security ?..
A socialist ?..<social security..

Because i know many people who believe in social security I.E NHS jobseekers and the like..

BUT would tie someone up loads of money threaten to kill the kids if they don't show them where the safe is..
And boil the kettle to burn them if they don't show them the safe ..

IS THAT WEAK ..So who looks the weak one getting boiling water over there heads?..


AND THAT's why i want a universal income it stops people doing CRAZY SHIT FOR MONEY..
When no money around more people do crazy stuff to get it..

So you will create a real dog eat dog world like the western times all for money..

NO SOCIAL CARE ..the uk would be a predators ground ..
kill shoot steal home robberies all will EXPLODE..

DUMB SHITS..
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May 31, 2017, 07:38:39 PM
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See i get angry when people say well i made my money i think you should try do the same so i am not giving non of my money to anyone..I.E socialism I.E nice roads hospitals  nice schools for all not just the rich..

Because i could say what if your 6ft10 and built like a brick wall BUT is dumb as shit..
Now imagine no work around or your on low pay..

The 6ft10 guy would think not having this when i could just bite someones head off and take his money..
And you do get people in life like this..

Now if we had no social care no schools      we had to pay for everything schools healthcare the lot
imagine how many 6ft strong dumb brains will attack for money..

And that's one reason why we have a social care..STOPS PEOPLE GOING CRAZY..
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May 31, 2017, 07:48:36 PM
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Normally I would disagree, but nowadays there seems to indeed be such a correlation. Physically weak men have more chances to be cast out of regular masculine male groups and thus develop interests more in the fields of interests of women. This eventually can send them to the feminist or LGBT sector of society and these things go hand in hand with the modern western brew of socialism.
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May 31, 2017, 08:03:53 PM
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Government cut social care by half where i live SHOOTINGS exploded ..
Believe me the poor will come for the rich ..

Violent crime rising in England and Wales, police figures show | UK ...
https://www.theguardian.com › World › UK News › Crime
27 Apr 2017 - These figures do, however, show an increase in violent crime, with a 10% rise in robberies, a 35% increase in public order offences and a 12% .

When no money around..

Burglary, fraud and knife-point robbery rise as recession sees crime ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › News › UK News › Law and Order
22 Jan 2009 - Burglary, fraud and knife-point robbery rise as recession sees crime ... The British Crime Survey, the Government's preferred measure of crime,

So can you imagine a world were robots do most jobs with no socialism  Shocked Shocked..

You better make sure your guarded at all times or the thieves will have you for breakfast..

Even in the USA crime because of greedy politicians as gone through the roof..

Chicago's murder rate soars 72% in 2016; shootings up more than 88%
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/.../murders...chicago...2016/82507210/
1 Apr 2016 - CHICAGO — Murders in the nation's third-largest city are up about 72%, while shootings have surged more than 88% in the first three months


Even having a gun don't help you from getting ROBBED..^^^..
But like i said the big politicians don't care they don't live in the SHIT HOLES but we do..

Gated community or loads of land to live on ..

Need a politician to have the balls to say to companies

YOUR GETTING TAXED ..The way you should be..

And if you move you will never sell your products in our lands again..
But they don't the company gives the politician cash to do as they say OR NO MORE CASH..

RAT POLITICIANS ..GREEDY RATS..

Not happy with a holiday home and a rubber dinghy they want 4 mansions and a yacht ..
GREEDY ..
We suffer    it's not like the politicians baked good pies and we buy them all ..
No they rob our TAXES and public services and sell them to there friends to get a cut..

Even mining rights get stolen public contracts ..

WHEN WILL WE GET SOMEONE WITH REAL TRUST..
And this goes on all around the planet..GREED..
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May 31, 2017, 08:06:43 PM
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But are socially inept men likely to become wimps?

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May 31, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
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But are socially inept men likely to become wimps?

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Likely yes, but it's just as likely that they may become violent sociopaths too.
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May 31, 2017, 08:35:17 PM
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But are socially inept men likely to become wimps?

 Cheesy

Likely yes, but it's just as likely that they may become violent sociopaths too.
Very true..

Like this example which last night i never had a clue..

The government cuts means the people who grow up in these poor areas grow up to hate the police the government and the SNOBBY RICH ..

Now what's happening is the white natives from the UK are becoming ISLAMIST to show hate for
our government our way of life ..

And yes some will plan to blow up police stations government buildings shops concerts all in the name of ISLAM ..BUT really it's revenge for the way our government treat the poor..

And this is why so many poor end up in jail to be converted to hate our way of life because look where they are ..No some people blame society not themselves..

Like why did i go to university only to not get the job i studied in and now i am in debt ..
Arr well i will go and steal some BITCOIN from my laptop ..

Then you get caught go to jail so not to be someones bitch you join ISLAM
then your brainwashed..

I hate my government i done all what they asked and no life i will follow ISLAM..
Before you know it he want to blow shit up..

HAPPEN TO ANYONE..

So without social care ..I.E public schools hospitals roads all need paying for by taxes no taxes no social care..

Even sports clubs all cut kids got nothing to do but smash stuff up and shoot at each other..

SO ANYONE CAN BECOME A TERRORIST..  

So with a universal income we will have a nice planet..Much better than it is now put it that way..


UNIVERSAL INCOME  UNIVERSAL INCOME   UNIVERSAL INCOME    UNIVERSAL INCOME..

I will repeat myself till i win..

UNIVERSAL INCOME FOR ALL..

I will never forget about it NOT EVER..
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May 31, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
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Government cut social care by half where i live SHOOTINGS exploded ..
Believe me the poor will come for the rich ..
Why should we care? Is this a reason why we should succumb to socialist ideal and give them what they want?
You're talking about a situation here those who have a lot of money are forced to give some of it to the poor, or they'll come and take it all.

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.

All socialist and communist concepts are fundamentally wrong.

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May 31, 2017, 09:49:00 PM
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Government cut social care by half where i live SHOOTINGS exploded ..
Believe me the poor will come for the rich ..
Why should we care? Is this a reason why we should succumb to socialist ideal and give them what they want?
You're talking about a situation here those who have a lot of money are forced to give some of it to the poor, or they'll come and take it all.

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.

All socialist and communist concepts are fundamentally wrong.
Cheesy..So stupid..
Apply it to taking the wealth from AFRICA and giving it to the poor of the WEST..

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.
                              ^
         AND I AM SURE AFRICA THINKS THE SAME..<But can do nothing about it..
And every other countries wealth we west steal to feed our poor   COUGH rich politicians and cronies..

Yes it's no different ..But on the small scale and it looks like you be it  Cheesy Cheesy..

YER GO AND GET YOUR GUNS..

I got 20 people with guns to rape your wife and kill all your family..
^^^^^^^^^
Small scale robbery

Big scale robbery

i want all your oil land gold minerals and if you say no i blow your whole city up..


BIG AND SMALL SCALE ROBBERY ...^^^^

So i suggest the rich and poor all get a universal income to stop moaning bitches like you well i am
not feeding the poor..
No we all get it rich and poor we all get a starting point to live..
We all get a starting point to SPEND..    The robots will make the products..

So it's not a threat it's a promise that if we have so much poverty the planet will attack the rich..
It's fact not fiction..

Like me i am scared to buy my daughter a nice car in case someone drags her out of it..
Or gets scratched because of jealous people I.E the poor because they be no jealous if no poor..

You got it i got it..

So you can put your balls back in your pocket   darkangel Cheesy Cheesy..

It's a fact if poverty around the poor go for stuff the rich own..
Well they are not going to steal off the poor Roll Eyes..  <THEY GOT NOWT
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Government cut social care by half where i live SHOOTINGS exploded ..
Believe me the poor will come for the rich ..
Why should we care? Is this a reason why we should succumb to socialist ideal and give them what they want?
You're talking about a situation here those who have a lot of money are forced to give some of it to the poor, or they'll come and take it all.

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.

All socialist and communist concepts are fundamentally wrong.
Cheesy..So stupid..
Apply it to taking the wealth from AFRICA and giving it to the poor of the WEST..

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.
                              ^
         AND I AM SURE AFRICA THINKS THE SAME..<But can do nothing about it..
And every other countries wealth we west steal to feed our poor   COUGH rich politicians and cronies..

Yes it's no different ..But on the small scale and it looks like you be it  Cheesy Cheesy..

YER GO AND GET YOUR GUNS..

I got 20 people with guns to rape your wife and kill all your family..
^^^^^^^^^
Small scale robbery

Big scale robbery

i want all your oil land gold minerals and if you say no i blow your whole city up..


BIG AND SMALL SCALE ROBBERY ...^^^^

So i suggest the rich and poor all get a universal income to stop moaning bitches like you well i am
not feeding the poor..
No we all get it rich and poor we all get a starting point to live..
We all get a starting point to SPEND..    The robots will make the products..

So it's not a threat it's a promise that if we have so much poverty the planet will attack the rich..
It's fact not fiction..

Like me i am scared to buy my daughter a nice car in case someone drags her out of it..
Or gets scratched because of jealous people I.E the poor because they be no jealous if no poor..

You got it i got it..

So you can put your balls back in your pocket   darkangel Cheesy Cheesy..

It's a fact if poverty around the poor go for stuff the rich own..
Well they are not going to steal off the poor Roll Eyes..  <THEY GOT NOWT

Can you publish your photo? "He that has a great nose thinks everybody is speaking of it."

Not that its funny, that you are defending demented communist ideology from position of militant atheist (and somehow see connection to Africa, socialists always try to find strawmen, when at the end of their wits).

What is funny, is that you are propagating this dementia on Bitcointalk forum, among technology fans, who are capitalist pioneers.

Have you paid your taxes from bitcoin profit already? Or are you another dirty commie, preaching equality and "stealing" for himself?
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June 01, 2017, 07:36:10 AM
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Government cut social care by half where i live SHOOTINGS exploded ..
Believe me the poor will come for the rich ..
Why should we care? Is this a reason why we should succumb to socialist ideal and give them what they want?
You're talking about a situation here those who have a lot of money are forced to give some of it to the poor, or they'll come and take it all.

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.

All socialist and communist concepts are fundamentally wrong.
Cheesy..So stupid..
Apply it to taking the wealth from AFRICA and giving it to the poor of the WEST..

I have a different view. We should all take care of our own yard. If you have a lot to protect, invest in security, and if they come to rob you they'll be in for a surprise.
                              ^
         AND I AM SURE AFRICA THINKS THE SAME..<But can do nothing about it..
And every other countries wealth we west steal to feed our poor   COUGH rich politicians and cronies..

Yes it's no different ..But on the small scale and it looks like you be it  Cheesy Cheesy..

YER GO AND GET YOUR GUNS..

I got 20 people with guns to rape your wife and kill all your family..
^^^^^^^^^
Small scale robbery

Big scale robbery

i want all your oil land gold minerals and if you say no i blow your whole city up..


BIG AND SMALL SCALE ROBBERY ...^^^^

So i suggest the rich and poor all get a universal income to stop moaning bitches like you well i am
not feeding the poor..
No we all get it rich and poor we all get a starting point to live..
We all get a starting point to SPEND..    The robots will make the products..

So it's not a threat it's a promise that if we have so much poverty the planet will attack the rich..
It's fact not fiction..

Like me i am scared to buy my daughter a nice car in case someone drags her out of it..
Or gets scratched because of jealous people I.E the poor because they be no jealous if no poor..

You got it i got it..

So you can put your balls back in your pocket   darkangel Cheesy Cheesy..

It's a fact if poverty around the poor go for stuff the rich own..
Well they are not going to steal off the poor Roll Eyes..  <THEY GOT NOWT
Have you paid your taxes from bitcoin profit already? Or are you another dirty commie, preaching equality and "stealing" for himself?
The only thing that avoiding taxes on Bitcoin would prove is that the capitalist system is extremely easily exploited, and thus that it is flawed.

Clearly this sort of thread is meaningless.  When a group has few strong arguments to give, the sort of argument they resort to is ad hominems (which I personally refrain from using in political arguments) - in this case about the physical strength of socialists.

I am (somewhat) physically weak, and I am left wing.  The reason is not because I am pathetic - it's because socialists do not always feel the need to pressure themselves into traditional masculinity, just to achieve the approval of others.  What you see is physically strong, but what I see in this case is ideologically weak.

Here's the bulk of my argument (don't respond to personal points there):

Capitalism results in inefficiency in that it requires huge amounts of resources for businesses deciding who to hire, businesses having unnecessary separate offices and having expensive marketing.  The only marketing which should be necessary is informational marketing, and this also does not mislead the public.

Key examples of these natural monopolies include phone networks, as well as electricity and water companies.  It seems absurd that you can pay for a month's subscription in order to call or text people, but you can only access one of several completely different unnecessary networks, run by several companies which are all in the same place.

Claims that money is being "stolen" from the rich are absurd considering that their money is a byproduct of surplus labour value produced by the proletariat.  Sure, there is the opportunity for others to gain wealth, however these opportunities are limited and are degrading considering that the sole argument is "no point rebelling because you could be rich yourself one day".  For there to be rich people there have to be poor people; such is the nature of employment in the private sector.

Furthermore, socialists functioning normally in an everyday society appears very strange to some people.  The idea of supporting socialism on a smartphone seems so strange - but socialists' belief are that a better system could have created that smartphone, and even if it didn't they would still have to function in the society they lived in at the time.  You could equally tell a peasant under the feudal system "you're so ungrateful for everything the feudal system has done for you - how can you insult the feudal system when you're wearing rags made under it?!"

The idea that huge numbers of deaths have been caused inherently by socialism is also absurd.  They have been caused by countries which deluded the proletariat into the belief that they were implementing true socialism.  Even with the skewered system which they lived in, the Soviet Union became a global superpower from a rural land of peasants in just a few decades.  Capitalism in its early stages also result in millions and millions of pointless deaths, as it continues to today in many parts of the world.

Some people like to deny this.


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June 01, 2017, 10:04:29 AM
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Normally I would disagree, but nowadays there seems to indeed be such a correlation. Physically weak men have more chances to be cast out of regular masculine male groups and thus develop interests more in the fields of interests of women. This eventually can send them to the feminist or LGBT sector of society and these things go hand in hand with the modern western brew of socialism.

Yes, in today's world, weaker men have huge chances to become a "woman" and meet with men. For me it's disgusting. We need to protect our family by any means, rather than let the snot.

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I wouldn't be surprised if there may be some correlation. After all, our minds don't exist in isolation from our bodies and environment. This is probably why when you see nerds as CEO, it usually in a tech startup. It's really hard to have a balance between brain and brawn, people are more likely to rely on one more than the other.

But are socially inept men likely to become wimps?

 Cheesy

Likely yes, but it's just as likely that they may become violent sociopaths too.

I'm socially inept AND wimpy.  Grin Haven't become violent yet, though I feel I'd probably become a sociopath at one point in my life. My "emotional zombie" episodes has been coming more often now.  Tongue
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The idea that huge numbers of deaths have been caused inherently by socialism is also absurd.  They have been caused by countries which deluded the proletariat into the belief that they were implementing true socialism.  Even with the skewered system which they lived in, the Soviet Union became a global superpower from a rural land of peasants in just a few decades.  Capitalism in its early stages also result in millions and millions of pointless deaths, as it continues to today in many parts of the world.

Some people like to deny this.


A bit of the "True Scotsman" logical fallacy there, eh?
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The idea that huge numbers of deaths have been caused inherently by socialism is also absurd.  They have been caused by countries which deluded the proletariat into the belief that they were implementing true socialism.  Even with the skewered system which they lived in, the Soviet Union became a global superpower from a rural land of peasants in just a few decades.  Capitalism in its early stages also result in millions and millions of pointless deaths, as it continues to today in many parts of the world.

Some people like to deny this.


A bit of the "True Scotsman" logical fallacy there, eh?
My belief is that socialism is an extremely appealing ideology to poorer people and leaders want to utilise that, sometimes maliciously.  When a revolution begins, at first a leader is required to establish order.  In capitalism from feudalism, that eventually resulted in (partially) democratic systems, and I'm confident that a more economic and direct democracy can be implemented in socialism given the right conditions.

That leader can attempt to manipulate the people when they are in this phase, using the pretense of socialism.  The difference is that a capitalist society admits to rewarding selfishness through money, while a socialist society intends to prevent it - this means that false claims of a capitalist society (or corporatist, we could also say) are less likely to happen.  When I refer to a "socialist society", I mean the socialist society envisioned by Marx and Engels, not by Lenin (although I must say that Trotsky was reasonable for his time).


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So what do you fancy about your Nazi flag? Aren't you a little ashamed about it? . What's the difference between you and isis having crappy flags on a Worldwide forum?
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People are very confused when it comes to socialism. They want something that existed thousand of years ago (if that) but what they will get is something like Venezuela. However, I think global income/healthcare is good idea if that can lower the crime rate. I don't know why they call it universal healthcare...are we paying healthcare for aliens in mars and other planets?  Cheesy

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June 01, 2017, 01:39:43 PM
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The idea that huge numbers of deaths have been caused inherently by socialism is also absurd.  They have been caused by countries which deluded the proletariat into the belief that they were implementing true socialism.  Even with the skewered system which they lived in, the Soviet Union became a global superpower from a rural land of peasants in just a few decades.  Capitalism in its early stages also result in millions and millions of pointless deaths, as it continues to today in many parts of the world.

Some people like to deny this.


A bit of the "True Scotsman" logical fallacy there, eh?
My belief is that socialism is an extremely appealing ideology to poorer people and leaders want to utilise that, sometimes maliciously.  When a revolution begins, at first a leader is required to establish order.  In capitalism from feudalism, that eventually resulted in (partially) democratic systems, and I'm confident that a more economic and direct democracy can be implemented in socialism given the right conditions.

That leader can attempt to manipulate the people when they are in this phase, using the pretense of socialism.  The difference is that a capitalist society admits to rewarding selfishness through money, while a socialist society intends to prevent it - this means that false claims of a capitalist society (or corporatist, we could also say) are less likely to happen.  When I refer to a "socialist society", I mean the socialist society envisioned by Marx and Engels, not by Lenin (although I must say that Trotsky was reasonable for his time).


You take the example of the Russian model of socialism, but it's not quite right. It seems to me that the Russian is not has gone further than the Communist terror. For an example of proper socialism need to use the experience of Sweden. This country is considered to be one of the best countries in the world.
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June 01, 2017, 02:53:04 PM
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The idea that huge numbers of deaths have been caused inherently by socialism is also absurd.  They have been caused by countries which deluded the proletariat into the belief that they were implementing true socialism.  Even with the skewered system which they lived in, the Soviet Union became a global superpower from a rural land of peasants in just a few decades.  Capitalism in its early stages also result in millions and millions of pointless deaths, as it continues to today in many parts of the world.

Some people like to deny this.


A bit of the "True Scotsman" logical fallacy there, eh?
My belief is that socialism is an extremely appealing ideology to poorer people and leaders want to utilise that, sometimes maliciously.  When a revolution begins, at first a leader is required to establish order.  In capitalism from feudalism, that eventually resulted in (partially) democratic systems, and I'm confident that a more economic and direct democracy can be implemented in socialism given the right conditions.

That leader can attempt to manipulate the people when they are in this phase, using the pretense of socialism.  The difference is that a capitalist society admits to rewarding selfishness through money, while a socialist society intends to prevent it - this means that false claims of a capitalist society (or corporatist, we could also say) are less likely to happen.  When I refer to a "socialist society", I mean the socialist society envisioned by Marx and Engels, not by Lenin (although I must say that Trotsky was reasonable for his time).


You take the example of the Russian model of socialism, but it's not quite right. It seems to me that the Russian is not has gone further than the Communist terror. For an example of proper socialism need to use the experience of Sweden. This country is considered to be one of the best countries in the world.
As Lenin correctly said:

Quote from: Lenin
The goal of socialism is communism.

I regard a socialist society to be one which works towards a communist (collective) society through governments.  Unfortunately these governments have not began to change under attempts to implement socialism/communism, partially due to the situations they began in (Russia as a very poor nation before the revolution), partially due to outside pressure from the US and other capitalist nations (Trotsky wanted socialism to be a global system, otherwise communism would be hard to implement).  Unfortunately Lenin's intentions of having Trotsky as the next leader were overruled, which is where the Russian situation mainly went downhill.  Lenin made a collection of other errors but I won't go into that now.

Sweden is far from socialist.  They're "social-democratic", which means "we ethically exploit people for profit".

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