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June 01, 2017, 03:00:44 PM
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Russia is a very poor country before the revolution. Lol. You studied in a Communist school in Russia? The economy of Russia before the revolution grew. The USSR is the history of its existence has not reached indicators of pre-revolutionary Russia's grain production. Many enterprises in Russia still stands equipment 20s-30s years of the last century.
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June 01, 2017, 03:18:23 PM
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The idea that huge numbers of deaths have been caused inherently by socialism is also absurd.  They have been caused by countries which deluded the proletariat into the belief that they were implementing true socialism. Even with the skewered system which they lived in, the Soviet Union became a global superpower from a rural land of peasants in just a few decades.  Capitalism in its early stages also result in millions and millions of pointless deaths, as it continues to today in many parts of the world.

Some people like to deny this.


A bit of the "True Scotsman" logical fallacy there, eh?
My belief is that socialism is an extremely appealing ideology to poorer people and leaders want to utilise that, sometimes maliciously.  When a revolution begins, at first a leader is required to establish order.  In capitalism from feudalism, that eventually resulted in (partially) democratic systems, and I'm confident that a more economic and direct democracy can be implemented in socialism given the right conditions.

That leader can attempt to manipulate the people when they are in this phase, using the pretense of socialism.  The difference is that a capitalist society admits to rewarding selfishness through money, while a socialist society intends to prevent it - this means that false claims of a capitalist society (or corporatist, we could also say) are less likely to happen.  When I refer to a "socialist society", I mean the socialist society envisioned by Marx and Engels, not by Lenin (although I must say that Trotsky was reasonable for his time).



There are few attributes that you can associate with

capitalism: greed, ambition, drive to do things better, faster etc.
socialism: laziness, lack of motivation, feeling of the entitlement

In extrem  both of the above systems can lead to a disaster.  Capitalism has been proven to work better in the long-run.  Despite its negatives: for example the uncontrolled destruction of the environment.

I agree that weak (or unmotivated, depressed) men favor socialism vs capitalism.

Capitalism means hard work....


socialism vs capitalism...Capitalism on it's own looses always..YOU Just just cannot think why..
socialism on it's own looses always same goes for communism on it's own looses ..

Need all 3 to survive..

Capitalism is the need to hunt for money?..
We are predators as a specie with total capitalism you bring the predator out more in a human..

What do predators do ?..It's makes no difference what you think we are just another animal on this planet and our teeth show we are predators..

Now when no money around OR you want more some people will really show how they can be a predator I.E ROBBING YOU TO BUY STUFF ..FOOD AND CLOTHES..

See people think humans are brought from god but your not your just a predator on this planet
the worst predator to be honest ..


Capitalism ..Blowing up building for 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS ..
And also a insurance claim for a terror attack made 1 guy BILLIONS..

3000 people died and god knows how many got CANCER.. <

Capitalism brings out our predators ^^  3000 DEAD for cash and power..

Now if they can do that for money and power
what's the difference someone robbing your home for not even a fraction of the money?..

BIG PREDATORS LITTLE PREDATORS..< CAPITALISM the hunt for money..

You are a specie of the earth and the earth is full of predators to survive each specie will attack the other to survive..
So with a universal income I.E MOVING FORWARD from being a predator it will help mankind..


WHY DID THE EARTH GIVE YOU THE FEELING OF JEALOUSY ..?

It's to help you survive it's part of nature..
Now when people get that emotion they want to do something to get that off you ..

Like imagine i am hungry with a bit of jealousy i will attack you for the food to eat and emotion put in life to survive..

Now what i am saying if we have moved forward to the 21st century then we should some how stop the feeling of jealousy and the need to hunt for money to stop people having the need to become a PREDATOR..

Because the predators attack the ones with STUFF..
No good attacking people with no STUFF..

Now why i am saying this is because not so long from now the robots will wipe out many many a job..

So now because of total capitalism WE WILL HAVE MANY MANY PREDATORS looking for money..
I.E for food and clothes..

But just remember if people will blow up buildings for capital gains and kill many people
why want someone ROB YOUR HOME Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..<Capital gains..
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June 01, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
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I am (somewhat) physically weak, and I am left wing.  The reason is not because I am pathetic - it's because socialists do not always feel the need to pressure themselves into traditional masculinity, just to achieve the approval of others.  What you see is physically strong, but what I see in this case is ideologically weak.
"i could be a 220 lb ripped bodybuilder who earns 6 figures and conducts relations with a different female every weekend if i wanted but i choose not to"

you can put whatever spin you like on things but its just the same as the guy with no house who doesn't believe in private property or the 45 year old unemployed basement gamer nerd saying he is just waiting for the right girl, modern leftists are people who can't or wont make the effort to get out of being weak failures so they band together, usually supported by the women and mud immigrants they've given political rights to, to lord it over people who are better than them

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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June 01, 2017, 03:29:33 PM
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I am (somewhat) physically weak, and I am left wing.  The reason is not because I am pathetic - it's because socialists do not always feel the need to pressure themselves into traditional masculinity, just to achieve the approval of others.  What you see is physically strong, but what I see in this case is ideologically weak.
"i could be a 220 lb ripped bodybuilder who earns 6 figures and conducts relations with a different female every weekend if i wanted but i choose not to"

you can put whatever spin you like on things but its just the same as the guy with no house who doesn't believe in private property or the 45 year old unemployed basement gamer nerd saying he is just waiting for the right girl, modern leftists are people who can't or wont make the effort to get out of being weak failures so they band together, usually supported by the women and mud immigrants they've given political rights to, to lord it over people who are better than them
i could be a 220 lb ripped bodybuilder..with a gun to your head you be a little girl Wink..
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June 01, 2017, 03:39:22 PM
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I am (somewhat) physically weak, and I am left wing.  The reason is not because I am pathetic - it's because socialists do not always feel the need to pressure themselves into traditional masculinity, just to achieve the approval of others.  What you see is physically strong, but what I see in this case is ideologically weak.
"i could be a 220 lb ripped bodybuilder who earns 6 figures and conducts relations with a different female every weekend if i wanted but i choose not to"

you can put whatever spin you like on things but its just the same as the guy with no house who doesn't believe in private property or the 45 year old unemployed basement gamer nerd saying he is just waiting for the right girl, modern leftists are people who can't or wont make the effort to get out of being weak failures so they band together, usually supported by the women and mud immigrants they've given political rights to, to lord it over people who are better than them
Now i bet they have more money than YOU..?
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WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO LEARN?..Capital predators^^^
And robots are not rolled out yet only small amounts soon loads of robots and loads of death murder stealing  IF NO UNIVERSAL INCOME..


WE ARE PREDATORS..And we humans kill in the mass..No like a fucking DEER how many does that kill..
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June 01, 2017, 03:59:07 PM
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How many people have been a victim of a CRYPTO PREDATOR..Stealing your hard earned cash to buy themselves stuff?..

And i bet they are the ones saying they hate socialism Cheesy Cheesy..
No i am working hard robbing your BITCOINS Roll Eyes..

Same goes for someone climbing up your drain pipe to rob your home..PREDATORS to capitalism..

With a universal income the parents will teach the children no need to rob anymore we are alright
not starving and looking like a TRAMP..

A lot of children grow up with parents who steal..And Yes they teach the children how to do it..
How well the child's sees it all..
Oh and don't you dare if you fiddle taxes YOUR THE SAME..Even though you think your not..

TAX ROBBING PREDATORS..<Rob taxes to capitalise < Capitalism
Well we could of bought hundreds of school books with your tax fiddles ..
You just made our children suffer ..
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June 01, 2017, 05:11:35 PM
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 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

YOU DUMB SHITS..Physically Weak Men More Likely to Be Socialists?

Seekers Allowance (£4.9bn a year).I.E       PEOPLE CLAIMING DOLE..

Corporate Welfare State Cost the Tax Payer .I.E      WELFARE TO THE RICH..

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Seekers Allowance (£4.9bn a year  and we GIVE AWAY Angry

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TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UK ...WE ARE GETTING ROBBED BY GREEDY PEOPLE..

I vote labour ..FUCK THIS..

You make our own people suffer while you give 13,5 BILLION AWAY..

I VOTE LABOUR..

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June 01, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
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To the Young of the UK VOTE LABOUR..WHY?..

Well they say labour will put our country in debt?..
BUT your in debt over a university bill so if you don't get the job you want your paying it back if you get a job worth 21k even though it's not what you studied for your paying it back..

Now imagine you get a job nothing to do with what you went to university for and your pay is 22k
You be paying for a degree your doing nothing with..
Plus a mortgage plus a car bill you be paying debt till your DEAD..

Now even if we all collapse WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER..
Not one child suffering but us all so that means we will do something about it..
If only a few suffer we tend to NOT CARE..

Now REMEMBER THIS..You wont be in DEBT it's free EDUCATION FOR ALL..
ONE LESS DEBT ..

And if labour fail well you be in debt anyways but not like a UNIVERSITY DEBT hanging over your heads..
A debt RICH and POOR will have to pay..

SO YOUR NOT ALONE PAYING IT BACK..

WIN WIN WIN ...FOR OUR YOUTH..
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June 02, 2017, 05:05:10 PM
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I am (somewhat) physically weak, and I am left wing.  The reason is not because I am pathetic - it's because socialists do not always feel the need to pressure themselves into traditional masculinity, just to achieve the approval of others.  What you see is physically strong, but what I see in this case is ideologically weak.
"i could be a 220 lb ripped bodybuilder who earns 6 figures and conducts relations with a different female every weekend if i wanted but i choose not to"
Why is this based on the assumption that that's the only desirable way of life?  The reason that socialists don't always pressure themselves into traditional masculinity is because they recognise that sometimes traditions and social norms like this are unfounded.  

And if there was a wealthy/"well-off" socialist, you would call them a hypocrite.  In either situation you're attacking a person's situation rather than anything that they actually say or their ideas.  You'll notice that I laid out several arguments about capitalism's inherent flaws and yet you decided to only respond to this personal point.

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modern leftists are people who can't or wont make the effort to get out of being weak failures so they band together, usually supported by the women and mud immigrants they've given political rights to, to lord it over people who are better than them
You're right, socialists do band together because they're working towards a collective system in which people band together.

You'll notice what I put in bold.  The reason that socialists are sometimes supported by women and "mud immigrants" (racist term, referring specifically to black immigrants), is because they have given them rights, as you admit yourself.  

Your illogical hatred of migrants is inherently racist, as you are giving rights to people specifically for being lucky enough to be born in one country (your own).  Clearly socialists' opposition to racism is going to make it more appealing to the minorities they support.

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June 03, 2017, 08:31:20 PM
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You take the example of the Russian model of socialism, but it's not quite right. It seems to me that the Russian is not has gone further than the Communist terror. For an example of proper socialism need to use the experience of Sweden. This country is considered to be one of the best countries in the world.
Sweden is full of wimps that don't know how to protect themselves, their homes and their women. I remember years ago seeing those social experiments on youtube, where people faked to be harassing women in public and people were walking buy. It was done in Sweden too and long before the migration crisis. Now Swedes are getting beaten, robbed and raped and they are still clueless.

Popcorn1 wants whole world to become socialist, sharing the fruits of their work equally among the poor and the rich, while in fact it would be sharing equally between people that aren't equal. I've said it many times, there's no equality in the world and socialism feeds people delusions that only makes their countries unstable.

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June 03, 2017, 10:02:54 PM
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You take the example of the Russian model of socialism, but it's not quite right. It seems to me that the Russian is not has gone further than the Communist terror. For an example of proper socialism need to use the experience of Sweden. This country is considered to be one of the best countries in the world.
Sweden is full of wimps that don't know how to protect themselves, their homes and their women. I remember years ago seeing those social experiments on youtube, where people faked to be harassing women in public and people were walking buy. It was done in Sweden too and long before the migration crisis. Now Swedes are getting beaten, robbed and raped and they are still clueless.

Popcorn1 wants whole world to become socialist, sharing the fruits of their work equally among the poor and the rich, while in fact it would be sharing equally between people that aren't equal. I've said it many times, there's no equality in the world and socialism feeds people delusions that only makes their countries unstable.
Popcorn1 wants whole world to become socialist, sharing the fruits of their work equally among the poor and the rich,..

You have no clue IT'S NOT SHARING..It's giving everyone rich and poor..
UNIVERSAL INCOME..The robots will make the products ..

Fruits of someones labour..

If i make a new crypto promise you i will make something knowing quite well i have no intention of making anything all just to rob your BITCOIN..Fruits of labour..

I plan to attack you when just go in your home to steal your valuables..
I had to plan it  < Fruits of labour..

No social care more people doing all sorts of < FRUITS OF LABOUR that you wont like..

See if your from AMERICA you got no brains..YOU GET ROBBED by greedy politicians ..

I come from the poor ..
I had to wait in a line when i was a child to get a free coat free uniform and all the other children
would call me a tramp..

And it hurt so i learn't what i can do is give someone a beating and take the stuff from them..
and oh boy i learn't FAST so i would go around and rob people when i was 9 years old ..

Now with the abuse off the children in the street calling me a tramp i begin not to care who i robbed because they was cruel to me ..

I stole cars shops buildings mugged quite a few kids my age going the shops for there mums or dads..I WAS THE DEVIL CHILD..

Father knocking hell out of mother and then give me a few slaps or throw me out like a rag doll to my mother and say here you go there is the kids..

I wanted money to join clubs always no piss off and get out or your staying in..
So that's when i get up to NO GOOD..

SHIT PARENTS..

Now if we had no socialism I would of been dead or killed someone easy by now..

When i was young i always knew when i reached 16 i could work and get a job and wont have to do what i was doing to make money..

So when i reached 16 i went on a SOCIALIST PROGRAM to learn me how to BRICK LAY..
Took me 2 years in college Got NVQ and then went on a building site and i have never looked back..

Now i can make sure my children never do what i done ..

Because they have me to look after them ..
Money for clubs to join clothes so they don't get called a tramp
And i make sure she is in school everyday..

NOW SOME MIGHT THINK HORRIBLE PERSON..

But it's what we do to survive to get what we need
WE ARE PREDATORS ..Humans are the worst PREDATOR of ALL the species on this planet..

WE KILL IN THE MASSES..

NOW BECAUSE you AMERICANS hate socialism ..

Look how many get murdered in the USA..

Canada you can own a gun ?..

So that's why AMERICA as so many deaths..<They hate socialising ..

The word socialism to America is like a cross to DRACULA ..

When all along you collect a pension WHICH IS SOCIALISM  Roll Eyes..

So when you get old ALL YOU AMERICANS .....ARE FAGS..Social pension= fags..
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June 03, 2017, 10:07:34 PM
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And people who post threads like this are pencil necked virgins.

Posted by 160kg squatting communist.
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June 03, 2017, 11:17:00 PM
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And people who post threads like this are pencil necked virgins.

Posted by 160kg squatting communist.
It stems from this idiot..Who needs to talk bullshit to get his money..And i bet mummy and daddy paid for his life..

On is jumper it says SOCIALISM is for FAGS..He done a show on socialism ..

DEBUNKED: Top 5 "Climate Change" Myths - YouTube   <  he done a talk about socialism so you might find it..
Video for steven crowder socialism youtube▶ 20:05
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He also has posters on the wall behind him thinking he is a super hero  Cheesy Cheesy..CAPTAIN DICKHEAD..

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June 04, 2017, 12:00:58 AM
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Have no SOCIALISM       then always expect a modern version of this ..And if robots take many jobs MAN THIS PLANET is going to get really crazy..

LEARN SOMETHING ..SNOOTY PEOPLE..Watch and see how people live without no socialism..WAY MORE TO COME when robots take jobs..
But a modern day version.. GANGSTERS FUCKING WORLD Angry Angry Angry..

MY COUNTRY THE UK as decided to be like AMERICA ..Rich FEW greedy TWATS..

Now my country is full of terror and kids and young adults shooting each other all for money ..

Because CUTS in SOCIAL FUNDING.. Angry Angry..2 days ago we had one 18 year old shot dead and a gang went in 2 homes and shot 2 different people in 2 different houses same gang in 1 day..

WHEN I WAS A CHILD IT WAS YOUR FIST..Because we had good social care..Now the kids wouldn't think twice at shooting you DEAD..


I AM SO GLAD I AM NOT GROWING UP NOW ..With the parents i had SHIT i would hate to think what i be like..Jail dead or worth millions..

BUT my story is no different than many many a poor child and without the help of socialism I DON'T KNOW WHAT  Cry Cry..

GO AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOUR POOR CHILDREN..You dirty twats YOU MAKE THEM WHO THEY ARE..

Not my kids you horrible american greedy FAT PIGS say ..OH but when it invents something or becomes a champion OH THAT'S AN AMERICAN  Cheesy.

YOUR FLAG IS NOT WORTH PISSING ON..Because you wont help your own less fortunate children out..

THE LAND OF THE FREE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..< You must be fucking JOKING..    So take those words out your song you DUMB ASSES..

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July 04, 2017, 12:38:02 PM
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Well that has no sense.Maybe it's my fault but I didn't catch the meaning.I do not think there is a correlation between physical condition and politic.Except if there is a different meaning with term of "socialst".
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Well that has no sense.Maybe it's my fault but I didn't catch the meaning.I do not think there is a correlation between physical condition and politic.Except if there is a different meaning with term of "socialst".
On the contrary that makes a lot of sense because since they are not able to work physically and since they will likely want what everyone is having as well, they will come up with the notion of socialism so that the strong men will work so that all could share .

 
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October 08, 2017, 06:18:46 AM
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from my point of view i can't believe that statement physically weak men more like to be socialists actually it depends on  mentality
i have seen so many people who are not physically weak but they are still working of better society by doing social work
they dont like to lead luxurious life in spite of being so rich and they use money for others people who deprive of  so many opportunity ..
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October 08, 2017, 10:21:27 AM
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i think this is right Because Strong fell they are better than other and can do what they want while weak one prefer to be at union
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October 08, 2017, 11:01:55 AM
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Modern society makes men effeminate, and women are masculine. People themselves are left in the fact that they allow them to bring up their children in this way.

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