Gunman in Resorts World Manila

[Mometaskers]

I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I think so too, but the question is, why did he do these, why would he go to Worlds Resorts Manila with a gun, he stole chips but he didn't use it and just commit suicide, it's making no sense. And just so you know, the gunman burned many parts of the casino, with the smoke and the fire, they can't use the camera because it didn't caught anything.

I saw some still from a CCTV footage on FB. It shows him sitting on the stairs in the fire exit, with what seem to be a small bag in hand. Apparently the guy is a foreigner (looks Middle Eastern to me) though as expected, still not a lot of details about him.

Maybe that's why their trying to keep mum a bit. Whether they label this as terrorism or not, it could spark panic, or worse if the guy is indeed Muslim or at least Middle Eastern. Christians here had been pretty quite tolerant, despite some bombings here in the capital, you don't see them mobbing mosques like in America.

It's a bit different now though. As the past election has shown, people have become quite intolerant of things that don't agree with them. Just look at any FB page and you'll get a taste of the vitriol Muslims and Christians are shoving down each other's throats after the siege in  Marawi.

[NoNetwork]

I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I think so too, but the question is, why did he do these, why would he go to Worlds Resorts Manila with a gun, he stole chips but he didn't use it and just commit suicide, it's making no sense. And just so you know, the gunman burned many parts of the casino, with the smoke and the fire, they can't use the camera because it didn't caught anything.

I saw some still from a CCTV footage on FB. It shows him sitting on the stairs in the fire exit, with what seem to be a small bag in hand. Apparently the guy is a foreigner (looks Middle Eastern to me) though as expected, still not a lot of details about him.

Maybe that's why their trying to keep mum a bit. Whether they label this as terrorism or not, it could spark panic, or worse if the guy is indeed Muslim or at least Middle Eastern. Christians here had been pretty quite tolerant, despite some bombings here in the capital, you don't see them mobbing mosques like in America.

It's a bit different now though. As the past election has shown, people have become quite intolerant of things that don't agree with them. Just look at any FB page and you'll get a taste of the vitriol Muslims and Christians are shoving down each other's throats after the siege in  Marawi.

I've seen the clip too, but there are no useful information that can be worked out in that clip. We can just guess the nationality from that video, though we can't have a solid proof what's his nationality. If we can compare the activities of terrorists to these incident, there is a huge difference, if this is a terrorist attack, these will be the worst and most bloody incident these year.

[Kemarit]

The police haven't release any video's yet. Just clippings from the CCTV of Resorts World. It was said that he was yelling that he was ISIS before firing but the police haven't verified it yet. Looks like President Duterte has visited the wake of some of the victims specially 2 who is still unclaimed. The wake of the most of the victims is also near my place, and tonight when I was about to go home, roads were closed and re-routed and a lot of police around. Didn't bother to look though as security is very tight and a lot of media as well. Travel bans coming from USA and Australia if I'm not mistaken was already release in the Philippines. This will put the country in bad light again, damn frustrating and disappointed as Filipino.

[Lancusters]

Once you have selected Duterte in the Philippines will be a long time is not a stable situation. Muslim terrorists around the world arrange a bloody terrorist attacks. From this it is impossible to defend, but now you will have even tension. I'm really sorry. Philippines was a Paradise for tourists.

[chaser15]

Just saw the CCTV clips from Resorts World. Gunman burned those luxury tables and slots machines. This is the first time I saw what's inside the casino and Im really stunned with those luxuries. But all those things turned to ashes. At the end of the clip, the gunman I think was shot by a person that is standing on the fire exit where the suspect go just few minutes ago before the arrival of the backups. They both surprised when they see each other. Hopefully they have the CCTV of gunman entering the room where he burned himself so that we can know that this is not his double and he is really the one who burned.

Some people are retarded questioning how the gunman entered the building with a gun without them realizing that as soon as the gunman entered the building, he is already on attack mode exactly at the entrance. What do you expect for those people in charge, will talked to this guy? Good thing they run so they report it quick to the authorities.

[NoNetwork]

The police haven't release any video's yet. Just clippings from the CCTV of Resorts World. It was said that he was yelling that he was ISIS before firing but the police haven't verified it yet. Looks like President Duterte has visited the wake of some of the victims specially 2 who is still unclaimed. The wake of the most of the victims is also near my place, and tonight when I was about to go home, roads were closed and re-routed and a lot of police around. Didn't bother to look though as security is very tight and a lot of media as well. Travel bans coming from USA and Australia if I'm not mistaken was already release in the Philippines. This will put the country in bad light again, damn frustrating and disappointed as Filipino.

So frustrating, we've been making our country beautiful again by eradicating drug users and starting to have a good relationship with other country leaders. From what happened, President Donal Trump banned people traveling from Australia from what happened. What's more frustrating is that, they can stop one man from doing these incident, there would be no dead people if the security is always ready to these kind of attack.

[socks435]

I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..

[Papski]

Once you have selected Duterte in the Philippines will be a long time is not a stable situation. Muslim terrorists around the world arrange a bloody terrorist attacks. From this it is impossible to defend, but now you will have even tension. I'm really sorry. Philippines was a Paradise for tourists.

Yes, terrorist going to rob chips? yes, he will use those chips to build a weapon of mass destruction. Yes, Yes, very smart terrorist.
Yes, terrorist plays regularly at a casino.. hmmm very good terrorist for fooling people.

Yes, terrorist didn't shoot anyone very kind terrorist he would prefer shooting at the ceilings.

probably this terrorist was fucking broke that he can't buy bomb to blow himself up but instead use gasoline to burn himself.

[NoNetwork]

I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..

Your grammar is bad, though yes, it was not a terrorist but a mental disordered man who lost his money on gambling on the casino. The video is viral on social media too, not only YouTube, you can also read some articles about it so you can update yourself. The reason why the people cant get out is because the people are terrified, with a lot of gun shots inside they dont know where to go, where to hide, or where to run, some floors are on fire so they dont know where to go, that is why they find a safe room or place and stayed there.

[Sithara007]

I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..

Casinos have very tight entrance/exit arrangements. Usually, there will be only one entrance, and even that will be tightly controlled. This was the main reason why there were so many casualties.

[harizen]

UPDATE:

The Resorts World Manila gunman has been identified as Filipino Jessie Carlos, 43, separated, and a former tax specialist of the Department of Finance with known address at 1663 Felix Huertas corner San Lazaro St., Sta. Cruz, Manila.

NCRPO chief Director Oscar Albayalde, who ruled out speculation that the attack was an act of terrorism, said that Carlos had an outstanding debt of P4 million and was addicted to gambling. Carlos was described as a "high roller" and had been banned by PAGCOR from gambling in at least 4 casinos in Metro Manila.

Presented during the presscon were Carlos' parents and wife, who expressed their apologies and sympathy to families of the casualties of the attack.

Carlos, according to a 2014 article published in The Philippine Star, was found guilty of grave misconduct and neglect of duty for not declaring his house and lot in Manila in his SALNs from 2003 to 2006, his Toyota Innova SUV in his 2007 SALN, and his business interest in his 2010 SALN.

Following the decision, Carlos’ civil service eligibility was canceled, his retirement benefits forfeited, and he was perpetually disqualified ffrom reemployment in the government.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/05/06/1319846/dof-tax-specialist-fired-not-declaring-assets?nomobile=1


It's clear that this man is full of debts. No he is not related to ISIS. ISIS can claimed whatever they want to make a hype.

[NoNetwork]

UPDATE:

The Resorts World Manila gunman has been identified as Filipino Jessie Carlos, 43, separated, and a former tax specialist of the Department of Finance with known address at 1663 Felix Huertas corner San Lazaro St., Sta. Cruz, Manila.

NCRPO chief Director Oscar Albayalde, who ruled out speculation that the attack was an act of terrorism, said that Carlos had an outstanding debt of P4 million and was addicted to gambling. Carlos was described as a "high roller" and had been banned by PAGCOR from gambling in at least 4 casinos in Metro Manila.

Presented during the presscon were Carlos' parents and wife, who expressed their apologies and sympathy to families of the casualties of the attack.

Carlos, according to a 2014 article published in The Philippine Star, was found guilty of grave misconduct and neglect of duty for not declaring his house and lot in Manila in his SALNs from 2003 to 2006, his Toyota Innova SUV in his 2007 SALN, and his business interest in his 2010 SALN.

Following the decision, Carlos’ civil service eligibility was canceled, his retirement benefits forfeited, and he was perpetually disqualified ffrom reemployment in the government.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/05/06/1319846/dof-tax-specialist-fired-not-declaring-assets?nomobile=1


It's clear that this man is full of debts. No he is not related to ISIS. ISIS can claimed whatever they want to make a hype.

Then he is really mentally disordered man. Without these informations, I think we will be staying in the idea that he is not a filipino. I think the deaths of many people there is really senseless, that is a selfish way to kill yourself. And yeah, ISIS claiming these incident as theirs, it is really funny.

[freedomno1]

A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Gave that article a skim after reading about it here, that really was a senseless death went and got all the chips and then went and committed suicide.
Also one of the rare cases where being in the VIP room instead of escaping did not work because of smoke and fire.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/world/asia/philippines-casino-resorts-world-manila-jessie-carlos.html?_r=0
But looks like robbery ISIS sometimes just takes the credit for these lone wolf attacks since it presumes they are related.

[Xester]

A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Gave that article a skim after reading about it here, that really was a senseless death went and got all the chips and then went and committed suicide.
Also one of the rare cases where being in the VIP room instead of escaping did not work because of smoke and fire.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/world/asia/philippines-casino-resorts-world-manila-jessie-carlos.html?_r=0
But looks like robbery ISIS sometimes just takes the credit for these lone wolf attacks since it presumes they are related.

Yes, according to the Philippine police it is a robbery even if the ISIS claimed that they are the one who did it.  And also they already have the identity of the gunman.  He was a former government empoyee who was addicted into gambling.  He has a debt of around 4M pesos.  Lost his family because of his addiction to gambling. 

[Blake_Last]

It's a good thing that the gunman was identified because as long as he is not named, speculations about ISIS involvement will continue to appear in the media.

Now, according to police reports, the gunman was identified as Jessie Carlos, a former DOF (Department of Finance) employee who is “heavily debt” due to casino gambling. His parents also confirmed that he was indeed addicted to it and was a frequent guest at the Resort World Manila.

Anyways, since it's finally over, I hope this case will be closed, and RWM management appropriately compensates the relatives of the victims. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families.

[tikboyhere]

Im from the Philippines,  and I heard and watch almost all of the videos and cctv footage of this. At the same I used to play at Resorts World Manila as well. The place is literaly full of fun and you can feel how free is the country of the Philippines. Until this gunman came, and break all the happiness and fun at Resorts World. This violent act doesnt seem a terorist act but its a suicidal act in which he wants to scared people to death. Like he wants someone to be with him on his last hour in the world. Lets just pray for the souls of the innocent who died in the incident and I hope every casino should provide a better security not only always the money. 

[NoNetwork]

It's a good thing that the gunman was identified because as long as he is not named, speculations about ISIS involvement will continue to appear in the media.

Now, according to police reports, the gunman was identified as Jessie Carlos, a former DOF (Department of Finance) employee who is “heavily debt” due to casino gambling. His parents also confirmed that he was indeed addicted to it and was a frequent guest at the Resort World Manila.

Anyways, since it's finally over, I hope this case will be closed, and RWM management appropriately compensates the relatives of the victims. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families.

Yes, that is right, this case is closed, but it will be a forever lesson to securities and even employees working on buildings and casinos, we must be really alert at all times. Money can't fix the pain that these incident has made, they need more than their money, money can't pay one's precious life.

[Idrisu]

A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.

[NoNetwork]

A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.

It is really senseless, and another one is how the gunman entered the building, a mews update was aired about these incident and the gunman just walked in the building, the Security Guard can't stop the gunman, there are even SGs that seen him but did not take action because many people are around that may be wounded or shot from what he will do. The question now is why the building has no good exits, from the deaths of the civilians, all of them died because of suffocation meaning they have no way to out and staying on one place.

[Xester]

A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.

It is really senseless, and another one is how the gunman entered the building, a mews update was aired about these incident and the gunman just walked in the building, the Security Guard can't stop the gunman, there are even SGs that seen him but did not take action because many people are around that may be wounded or shot from what he will do. The question now is why the building has no good exits, from the deaths of the civilians, all of them died because of suffocation meaning they have no way to out and staying on one place.

Yes that is what I am also thinking, why they do not have exits.  Why did the security guard let the guy to justnpass like that without taking actions or immediately reporting it to the police or to the security department.  Why many casualties considering that the accused did not shoot any of the people inside the casino.  All fingers points to the management of the Resorts world.  They lack everything.  One more reason was that, no one ushers the people inside so no one knew the exits.  They just broke the window and do just anything to escape.  The Rw management should answer all of that.