Who won the bet

[TMAN]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.0

as you can see in the thread I asked for a dated picture not once but twice with an hour of the escrow being paid. OG didnt like the 1st escrow and as he was the "ONLY TRUSTED ESCROW AVAILABLE" I decided he could self escrow the bet as he "is such a trusted member"

now it seems that he thinks he didn't have to provide a time stamped picture as that is below him.. so....

let us see what the community thinks.

I will be happy to let the community decide the outcome of this bet, should I lose I will make a formal apology to OG as stated previously. not too sure if OG will go with this as he will never admit if he is wrong.

anyway - community I call for you to vote...

EDIT: added from the original thread.

Quote from: TMAN on Today at 04:23:47 PM
0.2 sent to the escrow addy.

man up or keep talking. you have 60 mins for time proofed pics - or ill continue to call you out.

I wont apologize about nasty scam. I will apologize about calling you out personally on the cas coins though.

Edit - Txid: 0694efc07511e8679d6480cf775568e30c79feadbc50bd053383f80cd5bfde3b

clock is counting

[teeGUMES]

this is a forum for Collectibles. you may want to move this to the appropriate board.

[TMAN]

this is a forum for Collectibles. you may want to move this to the appropriate board.

This is very relevant. As it is to do with an escrow on this board and a collectible maker.

Now please stop posting

[teeGUMES]

this is a forum for Collectibles. you may want to move this to the appropriate board.

This is very relevant. As it is to do with an escrow on this board and a collectible maker.

Now please stop posting

looks like a popularity contest to me.
can you point to which comment in the other thread where any term is agreed upon? im having trouble casting my vote and that is the last piece of information i need to do so.
Thanks!

[TMAN]

this is a forum for Collectibles. you may want to move this to the appropriate board.

This is very relevant. As it is to do with an escrow on this board and a collectible maker.

Now please stop posting

looks like a popularity contest to me.
can you point to which comment in the other thread where any term is agreed upon? im having trouble casting my vote and that is the last piece of information i need to do so.
Thanks!

you arent deciding you are adding to your post count - now go jump back on OG's cock before it gets flaccid again, you might need to start sucking it again if thats the case.

[OgNasty]

He wanted to see intact holograms on my coins...

Terms:

Terms are post a pic or fuck off - pretty simple OG

Pic:

click to immerse yourself in every detail...

I assume these are probably the ones in question as they hold a majority of the BTC value:

click to immerse yourself in every detail...

Pretty simple to see who won...

[teeGUMES]

this is a forum for Collectibles. you may want to move this to the appropriate board.

This is very relevant. As it is to do with an escrow on this board and a collectible maker.

Now please stop posting

looks like a popularity contest to me.
can you point to which comment in the other thread where any term is agreed upon? im having trouble casting my vote and that is the last piece of information i need to do so.
Thanks!

you arent deciding you are adding to your post count - now go jump back on OG's cock before it gets flaccid again, you might need to start sucking it again if thats the case.

my apologies for having an opinion that does not match yours. the amount of personal insults you throw out are disgusting. i have asked for proof of agreement of terms by both parties. i look at this sort of thing unbiased. i dont care who OgNasty is or ever was. I believe i used him for escrow once because the seller decided to pick him. minerjones is my preferred escrow agent. that shouldn't matter anyways, you and all your goonies have attacked me in the other thread and it is easy to see who is racking up votes for you in this popularity contest.

[Lauda]

These are the terms.

0.2 sent to the escrow addy.

man up or keep talking. you have 60 mins for time proofed pics - or ill continue to call you out.

I wont apologize about nasty scam. I will apologize about calling you out personally on the cas coins though.

Edit - Txid: 0694efc07511e8679d6480cf775568e30c79feadbc50bd053383f80cd5bfde3b

clock is counting

my apologies for having an opinion that does not match yours. the amount of personal insults you throw out are disgusting.

It's one thing to have an opinion that is objective or has substance, it's an entirely other thing to have a completely biased opinion. Guess which one is yours.

[OgNasty]

These are the terms.

0.2 sent to the escrow addy.

man up or keep talking. you have 60 mins for time proofed pics - or ill continue to call you out.

I wont apologize about nasty scam. I will apologize about calling you out personally on the cas coins though.

Edit - Txid: 0694efc07511e8679d6480cf775568e30c79feadbc50bd053383f80cd5bfde3b

clock is counting

I didn't agree to those terms.  That's why my quote is ~40 minutes after yours.  That isn't even the tx of the payment he sent me for the pic.  Nice try.  

[Lauda]

These are the terms.

0.2 sent to the escrow addy.

man up or keep talking. you have 60 mins for time proofed pics - or ill continue to call you out.

I wont apologize about nasty scam. I will apologize about calling you out personally on the cas coins though.

Edit - Txid: 0694efc07511e8679d6480cf775568e30c79feadbc50bd053383f80cd5bfde3b

clock is counting

I didn't agree to those terms.  That's why my quote is ~40 minutes after yours.  Nice try.  

The part that you quote are not separate terms, they are a snipped repetition of this post. Nice try.

[HabBear]

Humble opinion here...

OG made the first offer to have a bet. The terms were not agreed to at all by both parties - either due to no response from one party or by a change from one party - until these two posts quoted below.

TMAN posted:

Z doesn't want to be involved so Z - please return to my polo account, - 1GE3QtFs1kt1ZEiewFqy3pf9b2uEPSSr7F

OG - I have sent the .2 again direct to your address. Txid: de6441bbccc4b18a9d0fbd907462f4763db72702829ec8ddd6a101527fdc3a64

now post the Pic or send me my .2 back and fuck off as this has just interrupted dinner with my kids.

Terms are post a pic or fuck off - pretty simple OG - this isn't rocket science or signing a mortgage on a new house.. 30 mins remaining....

i wont apologies to nasty scam - I will apologies to you and remove my posts calling you out if you come through.

stop dodging it - either Shit or get off the pot big man

To which OG replied (after a few posts from other members):

now post the Pic or send me my .2 back and fuck off as this has just interrupted dinner with my kids.

After 2 days of straight trolling me, am I supposed to be upset by this?

OK, you paid me.  I'll post it when it confirms.

There's no time element indicated in these terms, just as there is no promise to apologize for or recant negative claims about OG Nasty's fan club's "raison d'être".

[wheelz1200]

Just catching up here.  Dam need to read some threads.  Put all this together

[OgNasty]

Humble opinion here...

OG made the first offer to have a bet. The terms were not agreed to at all by both parties - either due to no response from one party or by a change from one party - until these two posts quoted below.

TMAN posted:

Z doesn't want to be involved so Z - please return to my polo account, - 1GE3QtFs1kt1ZEiewFqy3pf9b2uEPSSr7F

OG - I have sent the .2 again direct to your address. Txid: de6441bbccc4b18a9d0fbd907462f4763db72702829ec8ddd6a101527fdc3a64

now post the Pic or send me my .2 back and fuck off as this has just interrupted dinner with my kids.

Terms are post a pic or fuck off - pretty simple OG - this isn't rocket science or signing a mortgage on a new house.. 30 mins remaining....

i wont apologies to nasty scam - I will apologies to you and remove my posts calling you out if you come through.

stop dodging it - either Shit or get off the pot big man

To which OG replied (after a few posts from other members):

now post the Pic or send me my .2 back and fuck off as this has just interrupted dinner with my kids.

After 2 days of straight trolling me, am I supposed to be upset by this?

OK, you paid me.  I'll post it when it confirms.

There's no time element indicated in these terms, just as there is no promise to apologize or refute negative claims of OG Nasty's fan club's "raison d'être".

Thank you.  Clear as water.  I hope everyone is watching how TMAN behaves and who sticks up for this sort of behavior.

[TMAN]

how I behave? you started this by saying that an artists work is overpriced and everyone should sell now! or something along those lines..

you are more slippery than a snake in baby oil..  will you allow the poll to decide the winner or not? forgetting the part where you self escrowed a bet..

[ezeminer]

I almost feel like both tman and ognasty should just write a letter of apology to each other and the community. Hell both could donate to a noble cause that accepts bitcoin.
Just stop this bickering these disagreements, and hopefully we can get back to the regular collectibles trading, and cool items that some people like and don't like.

OG is respected for nastyfans and being a very reputable escrow
TMAN is respected for his reputable trade history and awesome fort kialara

If you two can't get along just ignore each other. I know the issue stems from critiques on kialara prices (1), and people complaining about the validity of collections(2).

1. Market decides prices, even if the market may be skewed
2. Who cares how legitimate or illegitimate the pictures are, this is a collector showing the beauty of Casascius coins, not selling them.



Also side note, if anyone has some popcorn I seem to have run out.
Edit: slashed some wording from my original post

[teeGUMES]

how I behave? you started this by saying that an artists work is overpriced and everyone should sell now! or something along those lines..

you are more slippery than a snake in baby oil..  will you allow the poll to decide the winner or not? forgetting the part where you self escrowed a bet..

as stated in the other thread. TMAN started a whole lot of drama with user Zeroxal over a very similar thing. Zeroxal had paid for Casascius Aluminum Coins that are still available on www.casascius.com , he questioned if Casascius himself may be missing or just not around checking the forum/website sales very often. This sent TMAN into a fury of which he canceled something like 6 or so Fully Gold Plated Xerola coins that he had reserved. There was more to the end of the story but I won't bring that up as I believe it was settled. Havent seen Zeroxal for awhile though.

[TMAN]

how I behave? you started this by saying that an artists work is overpriced and everyone should sell now! or something along those lines..

you are more slippery than a snake in baby oil..  will you allow the poll to decide the winner or not? forgetting the part where you self escrowed a bet..

as stated in the other thread. TMAN started a whole lot of drama with user Zeroxal over a very similar thing. Zeroxal had paid for Casascius Aluminum Coins that are still available on www.casascius.com , he questioned if Casascius himself may be missing or just not around checking the forum/website sales very often. This sent TMAN into a fury of which he canceled something like 6 or so Fully Gold Plated Xerola coins that he had reserved. There was more to the end of the story but I won't bring that up as I believe it was settled. Havent seen Zeroxal for awhile though.

yet again you are missing the full information, please stop commenting. we get it you love OG.. move on - its cool. Bro's loving each other is ok with me, I have several homosexual friends..

terms were set when I sent the bet, time stamped photo. later referred to as "picture"

[OgNasty]

how I behave? you started this by saying that an artists work is overpriced

Blazed said that.  I agreed.  Where is all your trolling of him?

[TMAN]

how I behave? you started this by saying that an artists work is overpriced

Blazed said that.  I agreed.  Where is all your trolling of him?

I called blazed a dick in slack, but anyway - will you allow the poll to decide the winner? or are you not willing to let the community decide?

[klaaas]

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Agreed ! +1 ezeminer.

popcorn underway   :=]