Who won the bet

[vizique]

never a dull day in crypto

Viz

[dazedfool]

I think this dispute is silly and you both lost.   

[TMAN]

I think this dispute is silly and you both lost.   

love that - course we did, we got to school yard fighting levels.. but OG never admits he is wrong and I never give up..  I have offered 2 reasonable solutions, both ignored - so lets trash each others names instead.

[dozerz]

handbags at dawn

[Lontongmie]

I think this dispute is silly and you both lost.   

love that - course we did, we got to school yard fighting levels.. but OG never admits he is wrong and I never give up..  I have offered 2 reasonable solutions, both ignored - so lets trash each others names instead.

Why doesn't OG just post a time stamped picture now? If he can, then he can keep the $$. Otherwise, TMAN wins/

[TMAN]

I think this dispute is silly and you both lost.   

love that - course we did, we got to school yard fighting levels.. but OG never admits he is wrong and I never give up..  I have offered 2 reasonable solutions, both ignored - so lets trash each others names instead.

Why doesn't OG just post a time stamped picture now? If he can, then he can keep the $$. Otherwise, TMAN wins/

because the bet was within 60 mins of the funds hitting escrow. he failed and is now stealing the funds, I wanted it to go to charity as we cant reach an amicable agreement

[OgNasty]

Why doesn't OG just post a time stamped picture now? If he can, then he can keep the $$. Otherwise, TMAN wins/

I would happily do so if that would end it.  It wouldn't.  He'd claim it was past his arbitrary time limit.  The entire thing was setup to pull me into some drama.  It isn't about whether my coins are loaded.  We all know they are (except the 1000 BTC).  I think any reasonable person can easily come to that conclusion.

A picture with my username is something I've never had to do.  It didn't even cross my mind.  It's something we ask of newbies, not outstanding forum members.  Claiming that is the reason for this drama is absurd.

So TMAN, just to further illustrate my point about your intentions, would you accept a timestamped picture now?  Not even totally sure what a timestamped picture is to be honest, but I assume you mean a piece of paper with the date and my username on it in the picture?

We all know what his response will be, but seeing him be unreasonable may be helpful.

[FFrankie]

Why doesn't OG just post a time stamped picture now? If he can, then he can keep the $$. Otherwise, TMAN wins/

I would happily do so if that would end it.  It wouldn't.  He'd claim it was past his arbitrary time limit.  The entire thing was setup to pull me into some drama.  It isn't about whether my coins are loaded.  We all know they are (except the 1000 BTC).  I think any reasonable person can easily come to that conclusion.

A picture with my username is something I've never had to do.  It didn't even cross my mind.  It's something we ask of newbies, not outstanding forum members.  Claiming that is the reason for this drama is absurd.

So TMAN, just to further illustrate my point about your intentions, would you accept a timestamped picture now?  Not even totally sure what a timestamped picture is to be honest, but I assume you mean a piece of paper with the date and my username on it in the picture?

We all know what his response will be, but seeing him be unreasonable may be helpful.

Personally I would like to see a signed message from an address that you have posted here at least 5 years ago in an uneditted post, just to confirm that you are the real OGNasty and that your account hasn't changed hands.  

That is sarcasm if you cannot pick up on it.

TMAN never ever timestamps his photos when selling items,

[TMAN]

Why doesn't OG just post a time stamped picture now? If he can, then he can keep the $$. Otherwise, TMAN wins/

I would happily do so if that would end it.  It wouldn't.  He'd claim it was past his arbitrary time limit.  The entire thing was setup to pull me into some drama.  It isn't about whether my coins are loaded.  We all know they are (except the 1000 BTC).  I think any reasonable person can easily come to that conclusion.

A picture with my username is something I've never had to do.  It didn't even cross my mind.  It's something we ask of newbies, not outstanding forum members.  Claiming that is the reason for this drama is absurd.

So TMAN, just to further illustrate my point about your intentions, would you accept a timestamped picture now?  Not even totally sure what a timestamped picture is to be honest, but I assume you mean a piece of paper with the date and my username on it in the picture?

We all know what his response will be, but seeing him be unreasonable may be helpful.

To end this dispute ill accept that if you give all funds to charity, if not then no lets keep this going - i'm actually enjoying this nano.

you knew that is what I wanted in the 1st place but you chose to ignore that fact, and if you hadn't pulled all the drama queen shit you would of been able to do it in the timeframe and win the bet.

but you didn't so the self escrow thing has come to light..

[Lesbian Cow]

In my opinion clear terms were never agreed to before funds were sent.  Without clear terms agreed to by both parties there is no bet.  I vote no bet ever took place.

[Lontongmie]

In my opinion clear terms were never agreed to before funds were sent.  Without clear terms agreed to by both parties there is no bet.  I vote no bet ever took place.

Let's go with this

[TMAN]

In my opinion clear terms were never agreed to before funds were sent.  Without clear terms agreed to by both parties there is no bet.  I vote no bet ever took place.

Let's go with this

this still leaves the issue of OG being Self Escrow - he is above the rules in his eyes... he should of moved the funds to a more reputable forum member.

[FFrankie]

In my opinion clear terms were never agreed to before funds were sent.  Without clear terms agreed to by both parties there is no bet.  I vote no bet ever took place.

Let's go with this

this still leaves the issue of OG being Self Escrow - he is above the rules in his eyes... he should of moved the funds to a more reputable forum member.

So you don't trust OG to hold 0.2 BTC. But the fourm as a whole trusts him to hold 500 BTC.

[TMAN]

In my opinion clear terms were never agreed to before funds were sent.  Without clear terms agreed to by both parties there is no bet.  I vote no bet ever took place.

Let's go with this

this still leaves the issue of OG being Self Escrow - he is above the rules in his eyes... he should of moved the funds to a more reputable forum member.

So you don't trust OG to hold 0.2 BTC. But the fourm as a whole trusts him to hold 500 BTC.

I sent him .2BTC based on his trust - it seems I was misguided as he has stolen the funds and is refusing to mediate the situation. so no I wouldn't trust him with a single satoshi now.

[OgNasty]

this still leaves the issue of OG being Self Escrow - he is above the rules in his eyes... he should of moved the funds to a more reputable forum member.

I never agreed to be an escrow.  You didn't provide an escrow fee.  Any thought that I would provide escrow for you after 2 days of trolling is insane.

Plus, YOU LOST THE BET.

[Rmcdermott927]

Look.  As someone who has dealt with you both, this is painful to watch.   Why can't everyone just agree to disagree.   There's too much of this going on around here lately.  

I know some people have opinions about nastyfans.  I like it and I like the coins.  If it's not for you I respect that.  

I also like kialara.   If you don't like that, I respect that as well.  


Can we please all just start being respectful to each other?



There's a lynch mob mentality around here lately.  It's very disturbing.  Let's just not fight.  We are adults.  It's silly.  


That's my 2 satoahi.

[TMAN]

this still leaves the issue of OG being Self Escrow - he is above the rules in his eyes... he should of moved the funds to a more reputable forum member.

I never agreed to be an escrow.  You didn't provide an escrow fee.  Any thought that I would provide escrow for you after 2 days of trolling is insane.

Plus, YOU LOST THE BET.

YOU DID NOT PROVIDE PROOF THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN TODAY!!

FFS even your little lover Killyou asks in every thread to up his postcount. its a simple thing to prove something is yours on the day requested.

what don't you understand about this?

right or wrong I did not believe those coins were still funded? if they were why start a self modded thread and only post pics of one side? then when asked about it why delete my posts?

you started this game - not me...

you lost the bet - not me...

[TMAN]

Look.  As someone who has dealt with you both, this is painful to watch.   Why can't everyone just agree to disagree.   There's too much of this going on around here lately.  

I know some people have opinions about nastyfans.  I like it and I like the coins.  If it's not for you I respect that.  

I also like kialara.   If you don't like that, I respect that as well.  


Can we please all just start being respectful to each other?



There's a lynch mob mentality around here lately.  It's very disturbing.  Let's just not fight.  We are adults.  It's silly.  


That's my 2 satoahi.

RMC you know I respect you and I have dealt with you numerous times without the need for escrow.. but this isnt about right or wrong, it is about OG not willing to lose face, I have given him 2 ways out - charity or let the community decide. he refused both, so we are here throwing toys out of our prams.

[coin@coin]

Oh boy, this is the second thread about this.

A lot of posting from many community members too, skimmed through to be honest.  

Why can't we all live and let live?

This is not even about someone getting scammed or a sale gone wrong.

Also 0.2 BTC for a pic of the back of the coins?

I mean whatever you guys do with your money... It's your money at the end of the day.

I think for the sake of this forum section as well as for potential new comers getting interested in physical crypto we should think twice before starting something like this. I understand if it's because a scam but when there isn't one... what does this solve/proves?

I know Tman and OgNasty as I have been around this forum for a while and have nothing against nor have had any problems with them.
They are both very active sellers and respectable community members.

However both have had some past issues and it shows from the passion coming out of their posts.
My suggestion: don't make yourself sound like children, because this is what it looks like to people who have no issues with the two in question.
It doesn't reflect well on this forum section IMOHO. Peace up!

[TMAN]

Oh boy, this is the second thread about this.

A lot of posting from many community members too, skimmed through to be honest.  

Why can't we all live and let live?

This is not even about someone getting scammed or a sale gone wrong.

Also 0.2 BTC for a pic of the back of the coins?

I mean whatever you guys do with your money... It's your money at the end of the day.

I think for the sake of this forum section as well as for potential new comers getting interested in physical crypto we should think twice before starting something like this. I understand if it's because a scam but when there isn't one... what does this solve/proves?

I know Tman and OGnasty as I have been around this forum for a while and have nothing against nor have had any problems with them.
They are both very active sellers and respectable community members.

However both have had some past issues and it shows from the passion coming out of their posts.
My suggestion: don't make yourself sound like children, because this is what it looks like to people who have no issues with the two in question.
It doesn't reflect well on this forum section IMOHO. Peace up!

totally agree with your points bud.. this isnt about 0.2BTC this is about one of the forums most trusted members abusing trust.

self escrowing is something that OG has stabbed at people for. The reason is situations like this.. I don't bet what I cannot afford to lose and this is not about winning a bet, I am sure some other members will speak up about my reckless spending of BTC.

anyway I will keep my potty mouth in check moving forwards, but this does not change the fact that OG is acting in a shady manner