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June 05, 2017, 07:10:50 AM
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

There are a number of things you can do:

1. Reduce the faucet amount, if you don't want to remove it altogether. It really doesn't make sense to me why someone would bother abusing0.007 mBTC faucet every 3 hours because honestly that's a very low amount.
2. Same IP detection, at least makes the life of the abuser harder.
3. A week long wait before a person can claim the faucet.
4. Some sort of 'level' program that increases the faucet as you gamble more funds. People who don't gamble get a very low amount.

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June 05, 2017, 10:10:33 AM
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Op, in which way this faucet is being abused exactly? It is only possible to claim it when you have no balance and there should be minimum withdrawal limit placed.
So the bitcoins shouldn't be possible to claim easily. In case this is not enough just increase minimum withdrawal limit.

Or you can add additional rule: users who didn't deposit anything can't withdraw money at all, they need to deposit something and the withdrawal will be possible.
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June 05, 2017, 11:11:28 AM
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

There are a number of things you can do:

1. Reduce the faucet amount, if you don't want to remove it altogether. It really doesn't make sense to me why someone would bother abusing0.007 mBTC faucet every 3 hours because honestly that's a very low amount.
2. Same IP detection, at least makes the life of the abuser harder.
3. A week long wait before a person can claim the faucet.
4. Some sort of 'level' program that increases the faucet as you gamble more funds. People who don't gamble get a very low amount.

IP detection is a must these days because of all the smart abusers with bots. I would suggest a multilevel rank system which gives more rewards for higher level players.

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June 05, 2017, 01:01:24 PM
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

First, to prevent it, you need to check their IP address, which is the best way to prevent multiple accounts. But there are many applications hide the user's address, so, it is difficult to check.

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June 05, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
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Aren't you getting any benefits for multiple accounts claiming in your faucet? All of them are solving captcha before they claim so i guess that you are being paid by ads. Can you explain to me further your problem.

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June 05, 2017, 01:27:25 PM
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Aren't you getting any benefits for multiple accounts claiming in your faucet? All of them are solving captcha before they claim so i guess that you are being paid by ads. Can you explain to me further your problem.

I see that there is no problem in the situation that had happened, but managing that multiple accounts is really a struggle to do so. Having management of multiple accounts is not an honest ways of engaging yourself in earning money in an easy way. So if they paid you a good amount just for that job of solving captchas, well I must tell you should do your job well and maintain good and stable dedication to the work you have.

 
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June 05, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

First, to prevent it, you need to check their IP address, which is the best way to prevent multiple accounts. But there are many applications hide the user's address, so, it is difficult to check.

Its not that difficult for a person who's running a website. He has to make a log of users with their IP addresses and then every time a user logs in, it has to be matched with the IP address or if someone logs in with different IPs every time then he can have some conditions set for that user.

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June 05, 2017, 09:51:44 PM
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

There are a number of things you can do:

1. Reduce the faucet amount, if you don't want to remove it altogether. It really doesn't make sense to me why someone would bother abusing0.007 mBTC faucet every 3 hours because honestly that's a very low amount.
2. Same IP detection, at least makes the life of the abuser harder.
3. A week long wait before a person can claim the faucet.
4. Some sort of 'level' program that increases the faucet as you gamble more funds. People who don't gamble get a very low amount.

Point no 4 i not agree. Lv things easy abused by banker.
Point 3 is usually use by most website, waiting time.
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

Reduce amount per claim to 100 satoshis and abusers will leave it.

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June 06, 2017, 10:07:55 AM
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Not so long ago, we simplify registration process at our site leaving only the username field...
As a consequence, we are faced with a problem of creating multiple accounts by the same user and abusing faucet (faucet at our site - 0.007 mBTC and only request every 3 hours when balance is zero).
Guys, what solutions do you recommend?  Huh
Thank you!

There are a number of things you can do:

1. Reduce the faucet amount, if you don't want to remove it altogether. It really doesn't make sense to me why someone would bother abusing0.007 mBTC faucet every 3 hours because honestly that's a very low amount.
2. Same IP detection, at least makes the life of the abuser harder.
3. A week long wait before a person can claim the faucet.
4. Some sort of 'level' program that increases the faucet as you gamble more funds. People who don't gamble get a very low amount.

Point no 4 i not agree. Lv things easy abused by banker.
Point 3 is usually use by most website, waiting time.

What do you mean level thing can be abused by banker? I believe this level program is the best setup to make sure faucet abuser will be gone. And there is no way faucet abuser want to wager on every account they have. This will take forever


And I do not agree on point 3 that you said. With this long waiting time, it will only make your site have lesser player, because they do want to try your site of course but they need to wait like a week just to claim the next one? Really annoying for me
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June 06, 2017, 10:09:09 AM
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there are many ways to fight faucet abuse,the most radical way is to remove it Smiley but you said it was not an option
so if you do not want to abusers to drain your stash I suggest you decrease claim amount and/or number of claims per day
have tip limit increased,if a multiaccounter cannot tip his winning to the bank,he will probably lose it eventually
increase mininimum withdrawal limit to 400.000 satoshi,this will work together with min tip limit
these are basic measures that do not involve backend knowledge

if ths doesn't work and you are getting attacked -try to ban major exit Tor nodes and have a script installed that blocks known proxies and public VPN services

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June 06, 2017, 11:03:44 AM
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There are multiple things you have to set;
1. Block access to your site from TOR browser or VPN networks
2. Block multiple account creation with same IP.
3. Add captcha on both registration and faucet page.
4. Set low reward for newbies and increase faucet reward with the level of players.
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June 06, 2017, 03:47:05 PM
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In my opinion, it may use a system level, for beginner or newbie level for example just get around 0.001mbtc - 0.002mbtc. The reason, abuser faucet utilize a big reward. They have a principle, without a deposit can profit.
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You should really check fingerprint.js out:
https://github.com/Valve/fingerprintjs2

Browser fingerprinting is the new thing.

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June 06, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
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Someone help me out here. Why do people do this to faucets ? They can't possibly make that much stealing can they ?
Are they losers? Stealing dust ? I mean bow much csn you even get. Faucets are learning tools not money making tools .
Sad when this happens.

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June 06, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
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Someone help me out here. Why do people do this to faucets ? They can't possibly make that much stealing can they ?
Are they losers? Stealing dust ? I mean bow much csn you even get. Faucets are learning tools not money making tools .
Sad when this happens.

they would have to combine other tools to make a real profit, some type of automation and that leads to dealing with captchas, i suppose that dropping a good $2000 as a one time cost to prepare would get you a couple months of solid abuse before the system is changed to deal with you, that is a pretty dedicated faucet killer, lol.

most likely they found the faucets and the BTC numbers were higher than other BTC methods they have tried and they got excited, followed by trying to cheat the system for more.  They may not even realize that they have only stolen 50 cents or so.
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July 24, 2017, 07:05:13 PM
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remove the faucet.
Faucet allows new users test our games before depositing, so removing is not the best option... Sad


What about going through a third party service like zapo, faucetbox, or something similar which will do the account checking itself? I noticed a lot of faucets going that route early on, but I'm not sure how economical that is for them now with the recent upsurge in fees. If there's a demand for the service, I am sure you can find one that will take your business and require very little effort on your part.
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July 24, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
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We decided to remove faucet from our site! Thanks to all for valuable feedback! Smiley
If you could build a good back end then you could counter multiple accounts with ease and if you are not planning to do that then removing the faucet is the only option,but it might be a good option to build a good back end to monitor multiple accounts from the same IP and then you can ban people who are not depositing after registering for 3 months and so on,there are many options to get rid of leechers.
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July 24, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
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We decided to remove faucet from our site! Thanks to all for valuable feedback! Smiley
If you could build a good back end then you could counter multiple accounts with ease and if you are not planning to do that then removing the faucet is the only option,but it might be a good option to build a good back end to monitor multiple accounts from the same IP and then you can ban people who are not depositing after registering for 3 months and so on,there are many options to get rid of leechers.

Basically after I had read those full stories here,  the scenarion that happened here was really linked to chearing on faucets online.That's really a worst idea regarding faucets which could really affect the economy of bitcoin digital currency as well. Those are thise people who did something unpleasant, if I were to give my insighta about that serious matter. My impressions those people who did that kind of bad acts, is more like they're blood suckers of digital currency whose gonna waste our bitcoins in the future. I do hope this can be resolved by the admins of the site in sooner time and this leechers is gone.
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July 24, 2017, 08:32:17 PM
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Banning TOR nodes and well known proxy/vpn IPs might solve your problem if he is using those.

Is he really getting away with the faucet money? Or is it simply lost anyway?

Another possibilty would be to track behaviour of the accounts and simply auto ban them if they fit the suspicious activity.
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