VOTE Should the U.S. Legalize Opium to Smoke?

[GG_monster]

I am against any drugs, because they have absolutely no benefit. It's just an illusion that they can be of some use.

[yoseph]

I just read a well informed article on the effects of opium and i think it shouldn't be legalized, Prolong use of opium causes renal failure, as well as various lung disease and lung cancer as well. Its a very dangerous drug for anyone o consume.

[Hipster999]

I just read a well informed article on the effects of opium and i think it shouldn't be legalized, Prolong use of opium causes renal failure, as well as various lung disease and lung cancer as well. Its a very dangerous drug for anyone o consume.

Yes, it is very harmful for the body and it can not be legalized if we want to see our children and grandchildren healthy. Legalization will not lead to anything good.

[merchantofzeny]

Why isn't there a "no" to choose in the poll, let's be fair here.

I'm not against it, because I'm not interested in what other people are doing in their homes and I don't blame drugs for people's mistakes. If someone does something stupid on drugs it's his fault and he is responsible, not the drug or a person that sold it to him, therefore I support legalization.

Dtto, the OP is an obvious junkie. So obvious in fact, that in progation of his agenda he basically forfeited in semblance of disscussion on the subject. When you cant say "no", then you dont have any choice at all.

3/5 choices are basically "yes". What's up with that?

I'd be able to tolerate marijuana but not opium. Everyone seem to forget why China tried to ban it before. It is addictive, which is why it caused problems in China. Rather than mix it with drinks like what's done in other countries, they smoked it, allowing it to be absorbed faster.

Fake opioids made by drug companies for profit are now the number 1 cause of death in the U.S. in people under 50.

Smoking opium is non fatal and most people will use it like alcohol, occasionally.

Swallowing bits of opium can be fatal, but most people will smoke bit not eat it. The smoke of opium is very sweet and pleasant but eating it is not pleasant, it is extremely bitter. I tried to give a fatally injured dog some opium once and it would not eat it, but the smoke is appealing to all creatures.

I personally, like most people, do not support addiction nor using drugs recreationally, but I was a kid once and do know the appeal it has. Most kids try a lot of stuff, mountain biking, surfing, soldiering, swimming, eating red meat, driving fast on lone roads, etc. All of those things can be fatal and may kill some people if things don't work out well. A person should be limited from imposing death on others, but when a person tests it him or herself they learn or burn, and that is good for the species. You can argue that red meat causes arteriosclerosis that raises health care costs, or swimming causes having to hire lifeguards to patrol beaches, but should the purpose of things be to learn or to maximize profits for companies? Should liberties be given to people, and the price paid by those people, or should it all be given to corporate entities like government?

China banned opium, they have banned a lot of things. So has the U.S. Look at the people on this bulletin noard, a crypto board. Some people you won't see for a lit of reasons, from Alan Turing to Aaron Swartz, because the government did not want to let them exist harmlessly and figure out for themselves what is right and wrong.

1. If you are neither junkie nor wanna be dealer, than why did you post rigged polls?

2. Why do you relativize effects of heavily toxic (yes toxic) drugs in relations to everything else? Should kids just decide for themselves, if they want AK-47 for X-mas? Or a truck for that matter. It is liberty like any other afterall.

3. Good example with China. Do you know why Opium was banned China? For years private subjects saturated pre-communist China with drugs, devastating local population morally, economically and health wise. They did it on purpose too, to weaken the country from within. When the government finally reacted to this criminally evil plot where drugs were the tools - China was invaded by would be colonizers. You are defending evil agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

I was really puzzled with the OP's views. Opium is way, way more addictive than marijuana. I don't buy the smoking than eating poppies is way healthier. The reason it became more of a problem in China than in any other place where opium was also available was exactly because they smoked it.

Anyone who would love for opium to be legal only need to look at what happened to China. It basically ruined the country in every possible way imaginable. The emperor himself is addicted but he saw what's happening to his country that he moved to ban it (I suppose he planned to exempt himself).

Well guess what happened... "Let's bomb them to free trade!"

[PeterTheGrape]

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I was really puzzled with the OP's views. Opium is way, way more addictive than marijuana. I don't buy the smoking than eating poppies is way healthier. The reason it became more of a problem in China than in any other place where opium was also available was exactly because they smoked it.

Anyone who would love for opium to be legal only need to look at what happened to China. It basically ruined the country in every possible way imaginable. The emperor himself is addicted but he saw what's happening to his country that he moved to ban it (I suppose he planned to exempt himself).

Well guess what happened... "Let's bomb them to free trade!"

Alcohol is more habitually abused than opium by most people. It causes harm, I don't encourage it, but neither I nor anybody else has the right to tell somebody they can or can't consume this or that.

Opium was freely available in most places, including America, for a long time. Thomas Jefferson grew it and a lot of people, including him, consumed it. It didn't start destroying the country until it was made illegal and replaced with commercial substitutes.

Smoking in my opinion is better but that's just my opinion. The smoke of opium is extremely sweet and pleasant, almost everybody is attracted to the smell. However it is very bitter to eat, the taste is not sweet. Also smoking is seldom or never fatal by itself. A person smokes too much then they sleep. The difference with nodding off on heroin is that when you smoke you know exactly how strong it is quickly and are not going to overdose. Eating it obviously would be fatal if you took a lot, just as many food additives and household chemicals are lethal. Again, I don't support abusing anything, including a person's right to do as they like as long as they don't intrude on others.

[Creativity]

Please legalize it in the U.S.! If they are legalized in the U.S., it might also be legalized here in the Netherlands!

[Black House Up]

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I was really puzzled with the OP's views. Opium is way, way more addictive than marijuana. I don't buy the smoking than eating poppies is way healthier. The reason it became more of a problem in China than in any other place where opium was also available was exactly because they smoked it.

Anyone who would love for opium to be legal only need to look at what happened to China. It basically ruined the country in every possible way imaginable. The emperor himself is addicted but he saw what's happening to his country that he moved to ban it (I suppose he planned to exempt himself).

Well guess what happened... "Let's bomb them to free trade!"

Alcohol is more habitually abused than opium by most people. It causes harm, I don't encourage it, but neither I nor anybody else has the right to tell somebody they can or can't consume this or that.

Opium was freely available in most places, including America, for a long time. Thomas Jefferson grew it and a lot of people, including him, consumed it. It didn't start destroying the country until it was made illegal and replaced with commercial substitutes.

Smoking in my opinion is better but that's just my opinion. The smoke of opium is extremely sweet and pleasant, almost everybody is attracted to the smell. However it is very bitter to eat, the taste is not sweet. Also smoking is seldom or never fatal by itself. A person smokes too much then they sleep. The difference with nodding off on heroin is that when you smoke you know exactly how strong it is quickly and are not going to overdose. Eating it obviously would be fatal if you took a lot, just as many food additives and household chemicals are lethal. Again, I don't support abusing anything, including a person's right to do as they like as long as they don't intrude on others.

So because alcohol is more dangerous than opium, we should allow opium too?

That means even more deaths... GG your logic

[matuson]

Please legalize it in the U.S.! If they are legalized in the U.S., it might also be legalized here in the Netherlands!

You that in Holland do not have enough legal drugs? You already have such a thing as legal drugs, why do you still opium. Your post confirms that it is not necessary to legalize any drugs. Let people marijuana they want opium, then LSD and so on to infinity. I'm against it.

[PeterTheGrape]

Please legalize it in the U.S.! If they are legalized in the U.S., it might also be legalized here in the Netherlands!

You that in Holland do not have enough legal drugs? You already have such a thing as legal drugs, why do you still opium. Your post confirms that it is not necessary to legalize any drugs. Let people marijuana they want opium, then LSD and so on to infinity. I'm against it.

If you are against drugs then don't use them.

[BADecker]

The U.S. should repeal most of its laws. It certainly should not make any laws one way or another about smoking opium.

Government should do the things that it was designed for:
1. Protect from foreign invasion;
2. Help the States put down any uprisings by the people;
3. Work with States on finding solutions to disagreements between States;
4. Tax national import/export;
5. Tax trade between the States (not Mom and Pop trade);
6. And leave the people and the States alone in everything else.

The States can handle everything local... in their State.

[Sithara007]

Please legalize it in the U.S.! If they are legalized in the U.S., it might also be legalized here in the Netherlands!

You that in Holland do not have enough legal drugs? You already have such a thing as legal drugs, why do you still opium. Your post confirms that it is not necessary to legalize any drugs. Let people marijuana they want opium, then LSD and so on to infinity. I'm against it.

If you are against drugs then don't use them.

Fair enough.

In my opinion, consumption of food, alcohol, drugs.etc is a personal choice. If someone above the legal age want to consume any of these items, then he must be allowed to do so. The state should stay out of individual liberty.

[Tuyok]

I do believe that everything that is here on earth, man made or not has a use. There is always an advantage and disadvantages of anything. Now back to the topic, for me, it is OK to legalize it but must be regulated and for medical use only.

[iv4n]

Same old topic, and when I start to read what people wrote I start to laugh and cry in the same time. When we will see better days for all the people here on earth? Never!!! Because people are stupid! Legalization of natural herb, how the hell someone banned a plant?! How that happened? You put a seed in a ground and with little water, sun and air plant will grow, how can that be heavy drug and criminal act?
I never tried opium, but I would like to try it, opium has been used before Christ, and I like everything that comes from nature more then something that comes from people. Drugs do not exist, some people use that word to earn money on that, and to control others. In my opinion opium is not a drug, but go in any drug store and there you can find drugs, "doctors" made special mic for all of you ignorant people.