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May 14, 2013, 09:02:34 PM
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... Bring on the Mexicans!

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Mexicans are a defined nationality, and they are not a "race". 

In the USA, "hispanic" is an ethnic group, defined by a group of surnames.
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May 14, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
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Specifically addressing the "human nature" argument: see here.  It's a long series, but a good watch.  Because people can be "fixed" to act in a specific way, we can use the "human nature" argument anywhere; because John killed a guy, it's in his nature, and thus a part of human nature.  If John saves a guy, instead, would that go against human nature?  No, John did that too; it must also be apart of human nature.  Now, to argue that it's human nature to be a businessman and to stab your competitors in the back to ensure your business remains on top is merely sociopathic behavior, unfitting for all of the human race; the reason why you only hear of it, and why only those on top used such methods to get there, is because they've all been the same kin; they're not like you or I (I assume), e.g., people who express empathy, and thus can ruin thousands of people's lives without any remorse whatsoever.  We only see one side of this game; where Joe has the leading industry because he ran Frank and Bill out of business, so Joe's got all that business to himself and doesn't know what to do with it, but what if the three worked together?  As the public is generally unaware that such tactics are even happening, there's nothing they are going to do about it; otherwise, WalMart would've been out of business last decade.  The people behind WalMart are machines, not like us; if anything, their so-called nature goes directly against our nature, and this applies to the sociopaths on the very tip-top, including the Rothschilds and the rest.

So the question becomes; if you could make a decision to, for example, deliberately starve an entire nation, if it resulted in your own profits, would you do it?  If the answer is yes, I can see how such behavior might be mistaken as human nature, as this would be the cold, logical reasoning to improve your own well-being at the cost of others; if the answer is no, however, then we can also see why these examples do not accurately portray the rest of us, who would care if we're damaging another person's well-being with our business practices.  As life leads closer to maximize civil liberties, the sociopaths will become very obvious; there's a few of them on this very forum, if you can spot them.  These are the guys who strive for control, who'll kill when asked by God or a God-like figure, and at the very end of this road, the guys who become the God-like figure, who live their entire lives trying to ascend to this stage, without a single emotion for those they've ruined to get there; if this is what we're calling normal human behavior, it's very disconcerting, to say the least, and I don't believe this is an accurate representation of the natural human being, merely the one we've conditioned for thousands of years.

So how do we answer these questions assuming we're dealing with the human being fashioned much the same way they've been conditioned from the biblical era?  We cannot; it never plays out right, as "human nature" leads us to believe we'll kill when we A.) Cannot be caught, and B.) When it is highly beneficial to oneself.  We must assume we're dealing with a truly free society, where the average Joe is, by today's standards, moderately intelligent, and, at least, knows when he, or his fellow human beings, are being shafted by any given business, which can only happen when the empathy hasn't been beaten out of him at an early age, as is the case today, as we're all living in our own bubbles, and in some cases around the world, wouldn't even stop a woman from being raped in public.

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May 14, 2013, 09:06:57 PM
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... Bring on the Mexicans!

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Yes, for idiot responders.

Mexicans are a defined nationality, and they are not a "race". 

In the USA, "hispanic" is an ethnic group, defined by a group of surnames.
Further, the "hispanic" group is like an "add-on," and can be claimed by members of pretty much every other group. F'r instance, when I'm not screwing with the census and claiming my 1/8 Pacific Islander heritage, I have to specify "White, non-hispanic."

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May 14, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
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sorry mike christ i couldn't resist!   Cheesy
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May 14, 2013, 09:12:43 PM
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sorry mike christ i couldn't resist!   Cheesy

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May 14, 2013, 10:32:19 PM
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Specifically addressing the "human nature" argument: see here.  .....in some cases around the world, wouldn't even stop a woman from being raped in public.
Now why is it that I suspect that would be largely the case in cultures and nations with strict gun control and no concealed carry?

With an occasional exception, of course.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/super-gurkha-with-a-kukri-fight-40-armed-robbers-kills-3-wounds-8-wins/
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May 14, 2013, 10:37:13 PM
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Specifically addressing the "human nature" argument: see here.  .....in some cases around the world, wouldn't even stop a woman from being raped in public.
Now why is it that I suspect that would be largely the case in cultures and nations with strict gun control and no concealed carry?

With an occasional exception, of course.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/super-gurkha-with-a-kukri-fight-40-armed-robbers-kills-3-wounds-8-wins/
Cheesy Don't mess with a Gurkha!

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May 14, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
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Specifically addressing the "human nature" argument: see here.  .....in some cases around the world, wouldn't even stop a woman from being raped in public.
Now why is it that I suspect that would be largely the case in cultures and nations with strict gun control and no concealed carry?

With an occasional exception, of course.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/super-gurkha-with-a-kukri-fight-40-armed-robbers-kills-3-wounds-8-wins/
Cheesy Don't mess with a Gurkha!
or, uh, u might find out about that there hooman nature thing, yeah...
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May 14, 2013, 10:50:00 PM
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Specifically addressing the "human nature" argument: see here.  .....in some cases around the world, wouldn't even stop a woman from being raped in public.
Now why is it that I suspect that would be largely the case in cultures and nations with strict gun control and no concealed carry?

With an occasional exception, of course.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/super-gurkha-with-a-kukri-fight-40-armed-robbers-kills-3-wounds-8-wins/
Cheesy Don't mess with a Gurkha!
or, uh, u might find out about that there hooman nature thing, yeah...
Yeah, like what the nature of a human intestine is.  Cheesy

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May 15, 2013, 03:33:14 PM
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Specifically addressing the "human nature" argument: see here.  .....in some cases around the world, wouldn't even stop a woman from being raped in public.
Now why is it that I suspect that would be largely the case in cultures and nations with strict gun control and no concealed carry?

With an occasional exception, of course.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/super-gurkha-with-a-kukri-fight-40-armed-robbers-kills-3-wounds-8-wins/
Cheesy Don't mess with a Gurkha!
or, uh, u might find out about that there hooman nature thing, yeah...
Yeah, like what the nature of a human intestine is.  Cheesy
And to think they figured human nature being what it was, they could get away with rape no problem.  Some days just don't turn out right.
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