I´m Salling My BMW 330 ci Cabrio 2001 239cv

[moketillos]

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if you need another one tell me,

the shipping bill can be fake. but not the tracking number of the delivery

[BIGMERVE]

if you need another one tell me,

the shipping bill can be fake. but not the tracking number of the delivery

Yes it can. You could also be sending something that isn't the car. Also I'm assuming the buyer will want to test the car before buying to make sure it works. No dealer sells a car without letting the buyer test it.

[moketillos]

i think that no.
i cant wait to the car be delivered and you test it to get the money.
first because in 2-3 weeks that can take the delivery proces, the bitcoin price can change a lot,
and second because im putting the shipping cost, then you can decida that don´t want the car and i lose money.
i can send you a video with the car driving it  and you can see that it works, and pay me when the car is on track.

in otherwise i can wait to another buyer.

[moketillos]

lol, is not scam, maybe you want to scam me,,,is ridiculous to send my car to thailand and wait 2 week to get bitcoins, i 2 weeks btc can be at half price,

if you want i can sell you the car in euros via ebay.

[moketillos]

i think that this is not possible,
you can,t drive the car without license plates, and for this i must be drop to the trafico office my licence plates.
and i cant do that if you has not paid to me

[moketillos]

i think that this trade with you is difficult, i dont know how can i do this,
maybe you can travel here and test the car with me,

[malevolent]

I know this is a Bitcoin forum but why not use ask John or Nanotube (he handled a 10000 BTC bet in the past) to escrow the transaction but ask them to exchange the BTC to USD or EUR which are much less volatile. Once Goat confirms he received the car and it's working fine, the Escrow will release either convert the funds back to BTC and send it to Moketillos or wire the USD, EUR or whatever currency directly.

Because it will be more of a hassle for the Escrow tip the person who does it at least 2% (or maybe 3% if the money is to be converted again, to BTC).

Just a suggestion, I just want more people to see Bitcoin used for bigger non-speculative transaction  

[moketillos]

lol.
yes, then you can have an accident and break the car,

obviusly is better to me to do this with escrow, but if you want to test the car to pay me, then come here and test it here, i will not pay 2000euros to ship the car and then you take it to have a funny time  and then say that you dont want it,
in this case i lose time and a lot of money with shipping.
i can send you a video testing it, but if you want to test it personally then come here.

[moketillos]

is cheaper that you take a fly to spain, that i ship the car to thailand

[morgantar]

nice car

[lerelerele]

Sorry for talk in spanish.

Moketillos, creo que lo ideal sería pasar una revisión completa en la BMW ya que ese dato es verificable en cualquier BMW de cualquier parte del mundo

en esta web https://www.juntadeandalucia.es/economiayhacienda/apl/surweb/modelos/modelo621/621.jsp puede verificar el comprador introduciendo tus datos DNI y Matrícula (no hace falta más) que el vehículo está a tu nombre y que tiene las características que tu indicas (fecha de 1ª matriculación, motor, potencia fiscal...) y con un seguro de la compañía que se haga cargo del envío a nombre del comprador (por si le pasa algo al coche en el trayecto y tener segura su inversión) que sea verificable por el comprador.

Además de todo esto necesitas una gestoría que trabaje o tenga contacto con el país del comprador porque el comprador debe firmar la compra ya que si no el coche seguiría siendo de tu posesión lo que puede resultar un problema.

Espero haber sido de ayuda.

Un saludo.

P.D. Jhon K como escrow te asegurará tus bitcoins ya que lo lleva haciendo mucho tiempo y es la persona de más confianza, supongo que no habrá problema si el artículo es revisado en BMW y asegurado por 8000$ en pagar con la verificación del envío.

Editado para agregar instrucciones.

DNI en "B ) Transmitente" y Matrícula en "Vehículos" después sólo hay que pulsar en "Pulse para obtener automáticamente los datos técnicos del vehículo."

[malevolent]

I know this is a Bitcoin forum but why not use ask John or Nanotube (he handled a 10000 BTC bet in the past) to escrow the transaction but ask them to exchange the BTC to USD or EUR. Once Goat confirms he received the car and it's working fine, the Escrow will release either convert the funds back to BTC and send it to Moketillos or wire the USD, EUR or whatever currency directly.

Because it will be more of a hassle for the Escrow tip the person who does it at least 2% (or maybe 3% if the money is to be converted again, to BTC).

Just a suggestion, I just want more people to see Bitcoin used for bigger non-speculative transaction  

i would be willing to send john three times the current btc price just in case we get a btc free fall. im doing everything i can to make this work with escrow, but the OP clearly is anti escrow. hmmm

Wow, if that is so I see absolutely no reason decline the offer...

lol.
yes, then you can have an accident and break the car,

obviusly is better to me to do this with escrow, but if you want to test the car to pay me, then come here and test it here, i will not pay 2000euros to ship the car and then you take it to have a funny time  and then say that you dont want it,
in this case i lose time and a lot of money with shipping.
i can send you a video testing it, but if you want to test it personally then come here.

You understand how escrow works? It is to protect BOTH the buyer AND the seller.
You would only ship it if the Escrow (let's say John, who is trusted and escrow thousands of BTC transactions) confirmed that he received the funds from Goat.
If Goat wanted to break the car he could do it but he wouldn't get the BTC back. John would release it to you.

To be 99.999% safe I would post here a picture just hours before shipping the car with the date and some random text posted by someone other than you (also hours before shipping) handwritten on a piece of paper in front of the car so in case Goat happened to crash into a herd of goats totaling the car.

is cheaper that you take a fly to spain, that i ship the car to thailand

fine, but if the car does not work, and you do not get it to me in thailand then you have to pay for the flight.

you will need to but coin in escrow if you want this to happen.

This is also an interesting solution. Coins to the value of a plane ticket to Spain in escrow will not be as huge an amount as the car and you would only lose them if you wanted to scam Goat.

Goat, if he still insist on receiving the funds without you being able to test the car despite providing 2 safe options for him I'd give up on 'negotiating' with Moketillos.

[moketillos]

a lerele muy buena la info, el problema es que no tengo dinero para pagar la hipoteca menos para pasarle la revision al coche

well, i don´t want to put money first, bacause i don´t have it.

i can send you a video of the car showing you the reparations needed,(paint)
and if you are ok then come here.

anyway i think that is better to me if i wait to find a buyer of a nearer location

[moketillos]

wow man, im looking for my car price in thailand and its tripple than my price, lol you can repaint and change all that you want..

i can make a video of me driving car to probe that it works fine, i can afirm you that it has never got a crash or a mechanic problem,

if you want come here, perfect but you will take care about the fly cost anyway

if you are ok, perfect

[coldwaterbeacon]

 You're salling it or selling it?

[moketillos]

no man, i don´t have money to cover any fly, is easy to me if i sell to other person

coldwater im selling the car not salling, (error)

[moketillos]

lol man, you can try to contact with a car store here and tell they that you will purchase a car but if they send it first to you, or if cover your fly, hehe you can imagine what they can say.

and this is not an scam, and i am the first who want to use an escrow,, in any time i said other way.

[aerosmith47]

Holy burn my eyes with this read... Best of luck selling the car, mate. But, for future reference and as a friendly heads up, you may want to work on your English a bit before trying to do a deal with someone that speaks English. Worst language to manipulate and misconstrue, especially over the internet, and makes doing a deal ten time's harder for both sides.  

[moketillos]

yes man, i have problems speaking english

[aerosmith47]

All good, mate. My french is still really rough, so I know the feeling all too well lol.