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June 08, 2017, 06:26:21 PM
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I heard several times how satoshi disappeared after Gavin said that he was going to the CIA to give a talk or something. I found this video with Gavin confirming this is true:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pWblf8COH4&t=5m37s

"I don't know if that was the reason... but it certainly didn't help."

Well you fucking bet.

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June 08, 2017, 07:07:54 PM
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Blockstream/Core propagandists will tell you that he purposefully pushed Satoshi out by going to the CIA for nefarious reasons.

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June 08, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
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Blockstream/Core propagandists will tell you that he purposefully pushed Satoshi out by going to the CIA for nefarious reasons.

But honestly that really doesn't make any sense to me.  It seems as if Satoshi went to great lengths to protect his anonymity, so for one, I really don't understand why Satoshi got spooked just by someone else going and talking to the CIA.

And what would Gavin have to gain from all of that?  It's not like he got paid or gained a whole lot more "power" than he already had.  The thing about open sourced projects is that it's open for anyone to contribute... so Gavin cooperating with the CIA for "nefarious" reasons doesn't make much sense.

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June 09, 2017, 02:28:07 PM
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Blockstream/Core propagandists will tell you that he purposefully pushed Satoshi out by going to the CIA for nefarious reasons.

But honestly that really doesn't make any sense to me.  It seems as if Satoshi went to great lengths to protect his anonymity, so for one, I really don't understand why Satoshi got spooked just by someone else going and talking to the CIA.

And what would Gavin have to gain from all of that?  It's not like he got paid or gained a whole lot more "power" than he already had.  The thing about open sourced projects is that it's open for anyone to contribute... so Gavin cooperating with the CIA for "nefarious" reasons doesn't make much sense.

How do you know he didn't got pay?

Of course this is just all speculation and nobody knows, but you can't claim he didn't got pay to push a certain agenda or otherwise.

Also notice anti-blockstream people would claim this is a conspiracy, while using other conspirations to attack blockstream.


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June 09, 2017, 02:40:36 PM
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Blockstream/Core propagandists will tell you that he purposefully pushed Satoshi out by going to the CIA for nefarious reasons.

But honestly that really doesn't make any sense to me.  It seems as if Satoshi went to great lengths to protect his anonymity, so for one, I really don't understand why Satoshi got spooked just by someone else going and talking to the CIA.

And what would Gavin have to gain from all of that?  It's not like he got paid or gained a whole lot more "power" than he already had.  The thing about open sourced projects is that it's open for anyone to contribute... so Gavin cooperating with the CIA for "nefarious" reasons doesn't make much sense.
Definitely the risk of Satoshi to get caught/revealed raised significantly with that visit. Maybe Satoshi was happy with flow of Bitcoin without him, so he was ready to step back and was just waiting for the right moment.

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June 09, 2017, 02:57:24 PM
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Blockstream/Core propagandists will tell you that he purposefully pushed Satoshi out by going to the CIA for nefarious reasons.

Who can prove them wrong? It is their opinion and Gavin & the CIA will be the only people who could answer that question. The fact is, just after

this has happened... Satoshi disappeared.. coincidence... nah.  Huh I would have done the same, if I put my trust in someone and I just developed

the most disruptive technology on earth and I found out that this confidant ran to the CIA. {Ugh, was invited.  Roll Eyes} cough...cough.

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June 09, 2017, 03:04:19 PM
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I heard several times how satoshi disappeared after Gavin said that he was going to the CIA to give a talk or something. I found this video with Gavin confirming this is true:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pWblf8COH4&t=5m37s

"I don't know if that was the reason... but it certainly didn't help."

Well you fucking bet.
He could have been scared by the prospect of governments disliking Bitcoin a lot.  Actually, one of his last posts was on the subject of Wikileaks when they started accepting Bitcoin in late 2010:

It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context.  WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us.


Obviously I wasn't there at the time, so I can't say that I know satoshi that well.  But this was one of satoshi's few posts that were not about code - most of them were much more relaxed and logical, purely about improving code and discussion about the workings of Bitcoin. This makes it quite significant.  I would interpret it in two ways:

1.  Satoshi would have preferred that Bitcoin was not associated purely with Wikileaks, and perhaps he thought this could lead to Bitcoin becoming notorious for criminal activity.  This would link in with Gavin's point about the CIA.

2.  Satoshi would have preferred that Bitcoin was adopted more gradually and he'd have more time to improve it with just a small community of competent and dedicated users.
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June 09, 2017, 05:13:26 PM
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Blockstream/Core propagandists will tell you that he purposefully pushed Satoshi out by going to the CIA for nefarious reasons.
These are just baseless rumors and you will hear things like this on the internet, Satoshi was a brilliant guy and he knew how to hide his identity and i do not think that a visit to the CIA will spook him simply because he is not a criminal in the first place and he wanted to have his privacy and so he went offline after that.
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