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June 08, 2017, 08:23:33 PM |
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With 2 friends we are going to invest some € in mining, I want before clicking the order button to be good. Can you guys tell me if I forgot anything? Also, do you know any blueprints/plans to build rigs in aluminium/wood ? I can't find any in stock in France so I'm going to build them.
Here is the setup (4 in total) - Managed to secure 24 MSI RX570 GAMING X 4Gb :
MSI Radeon RX 570 GAMING X, 4 Gb 24x224 €
COOLER MASTER V1200 Mod. 80+Plat. 4x274 €
ASUS PRIME Z270-P iZ270 USB3.1 LGA1151 4x140 €
INTEL Pentium Dual Core SKYLAKE G4400 4x60 €
KINGSTON DDR4 2400 8Go 4x72 €
SSD KINGSTON UV400 120Go 4x75 €
PCI E Riser 24x10 €
Power Button 4x2 €
Price per unit 2027 €
Total order 8108 €
Adding the cost of the aluminium frame etc let say 8500 € of investment. Breakeven expected in 4-5 months?
Is there any difficulties to mine with Z270 motherboards?
Thanks for the advices
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Vann
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June 08, 2017, 08:39:57 PM |
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The ASUS Z270 PRIME A / AR is verified to do 9 cards, 264 MH/s per rig if you add M.2 to PCI-E expansion adapters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ-EAunoAqYThat would lower your costs to 3 sets of motherboards, CPU's, RAM and SSD's. I recently did a build of the BBT mining case below out of two 8ft pieces of 1/8" x 3/4" angled aluminum, one 8ft 1" x 2" piece of pine and #8 1/2" self-tapping screws. The case will fit up to 7 RX 4XX/5XX if you put them about 1 inch apart. For 9 GPU's I would increase the length of the longest frame section by 7 inches from 19.2 to 26 inches and I would also increase the frame height by 2 inches from 9.25 to 11.25 inches, which means you will need to use three 8ft pieces of 1/8" x 3/4" angled aluminum instead of two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5xNrlxsCVsBBT on YouTube said he will have a mining rig case build video next week with updates from his original video. |
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dragonmike
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June 08, 2017, 09:21:35 PM |
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Where did you find the gpus?
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fanatic26
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June 08, 2017, 09:43:58 PM |
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I can confirm the board you selected works just fine with 6. If you go with 9 you will most likely run into a bunch of problems that create more downtime and increase ROI time.
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Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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June 08, 2017, 09:44:48 PM |
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The electricity cost will kill you.
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June 08, 2017, 09:50:39 PM |
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I think you are wrong to go this way. do ½ your way do ½ this way if you can get prices wait for quote take a minute. build two of mine and two of yours @ op how much did you spend for the six card setup? sorry that I missed this. This is an easy 3 card monster rig. two 1080 ti's -------------------------1300 on sale one 1070------------------------------ 369 one 128 gb ssd ----------------------- 40 one 8gb stick of ram ----------------- 50 one i5 7400t cpu---------------------- 130 eBay sale one gigabyte z270 mobo ------------ 108 one 850 watt pat psu -------------- 112 total ---------------------------------- 2109 does 2300 for skein does 1750 for zcash at 550 watts. riser free and you can add 1 more card with a riser if you want to expand to me no one should build a six card rig as the first rig.  |
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June 08, 2017, 09:56:00 PM |
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Where did you find the gpus?
Would love to know this to if you don't mind sharing OP. I have been looking on/off for RX 570's and have had 0 luck. To secure 24 you must have a good source. I would make sure that your deal is "secured" before buying all other gear. As I would hate to buy all other gear then have it sitting trying to get GPU's. (You could switch GPU's but that is kinda another topic) |
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June 08, 2017, 09:59:33 PM |
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Where did you find the gpus?
That's my question. Where are you getting these cards? |
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June 08, 2017, 10:06:15 PM |
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"Breakeven expected in 4-5 months?"
The way the difficulty is going, your 4, 5 months will become 4, 5 years and that if eth does not crash hehe.
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2econd
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June 08, 2017, 10:08:37 PM |
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I'm mining with 7 GPUs on that board, have yet to try 8.
Might take a while for your products to actually arrive.
Don't expect the market to remain as it is, or grow, I mean it can, it can also become 2013 all over again. Beware
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June 08, 2017, 10:11:32 PM |
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Don't forget electricity, space, a lot of generated heat, and possible replacements.
I think it's a good choice to start mining, but do so with eyes open
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June 08, 2017, 10:12:17 PM |
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keep your options open, a lot are getting into mining and difficulty is rising, you might be better off investing it in btc not mining.
i prefer gtx cards better options on coins, less profit but better chance of resale.
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June 08, 2017, 10:13:00 PM |
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June 08, 2017, 10:17:24 PM |
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difficulty on its own is not a good barometer, the price of ethereum has increased. |
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bibyfok (OP)
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June 09, 2017, 04:02:04 AM
Last edit: June 09, 2017, 04:23:27 AM by bibyfok |
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So to reply to the main question, the reseller is a small shop in a small city in France. I contacter many big resellers who wasn't able to snatch any, and this guys told me that he could get for monday 20 RX 570, and I would catch the 4 other on backorder. --> I get all hardware from him, so he only gets the money if he delivers everything.
The idea behind this is to build a small business: with my friends we are looking into in some investment and that 8K would not be the whole of it. It's just a starting point to see how it goes. I know the difficulty is raising but the exchange rate is also crazy high...
Correct me if i'm wrong: let's say I have those 24 card running, but we have more ready to be invested, I could invest into new hardware (Vega? Volta?) or "simply" change currency?
I know it is extremely risky but we are not looking to do it as a hobby but as a business, and as with all business opportunities, if you do go big at the beginning (and I know we are catching the wagon late) you are ******.
If i'm dead wrong correct me!
At the moment here is what we have/expect:
50M2 cooled place
0,14€/KW Electricity
Run a month with the 24 card and see what would happen
After this period decide if we invest more, decide a strategy etc.
I'm completely open to you advices/observations.
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June 09, 2017, 04:23:27 AM |
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Why the i5 7400t vs a G4400 for about 70 less? What 128gb SSD are you using for 40? I think you are wrong to go this way. do ½ your way do ½ this way if you can get prices wait for quote take a minute. build two of mine and two of yours @ op how much did you spend for the six card setup? sorry that I missed this. This is an easy 3 card monster rig. two 1080 ti's -------------------------1300 on sale one 1070------------------------------ 369 one 128 gb ssd ----------------------- 40 one 8gb stick of ram ----------------- 50 one i5 7400t cpu---------------------- 130 eBay sale one gigabyte z270 mobo ------------ 108 one 850 watt pat psu -------------- 112 total ---------------------------------- 2109 does 2300 for skein does 1750 for zcash at 550 watts. riser free and you can add 1 more card with a riser if you want to expand to me no one should build a six card rig as the first rig. https://i.imgur.com/dg0TGrW.jpg |
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bibyfok (OP)
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June 09, 2017, 11:08:06 AM |
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Why the i5 7400t vs a G4400 for about 70 less? What 128gb SSD are you using for 40? I think you are wrong to go this way. do ½ your way do ½ this way if you can get prices wait for quote take a minute. build two of mine and two of yours @ op how much did you spend for the six card setup? sorry that I missed this. This is an easy 3 card monster rig. two 1080 ti's -------------------------1300 on sale one 1070------------------------------ 369 one 128 gb ssd ----------------------- 40 one 8gb stick of ram ----------------- 50 one i5 7400t cpu---------------------- 130 eBay sale one gigabyte z270 mobo ------------ 108 one 850 watt pat psu -------------- 112 total ---------------------------------- 2109 does 2300 for skein does 1750 for zcash at 550 watts. riser free and you can add 1 more card with a riser if you want to expand to me no one should build a six card rig as the first rig. I would even say, why not a G3900 ? Cost even less |
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June 09, 2017, 12:03:32 PM |
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SSD isn't needed, you can get a 50-80 gig HDD for less than 10 where I live or boot off of a USB. Even more money shaved off the build. You can get by with 4GB of DDR but it may cause some compability issues with some software.
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June 09, 2017, 03:29:02 PM |
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Just keep in mind that there are 10,000 or 100,000 other people doing the same thing and that the profitability isn't going to hold.
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bobben2
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June 09, 2017, 04:46:35 PM |
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I think Phil's suggestion to build a 3-card rig makes a lot of sense, but I would swap out his mobo suggestion with one that can eventually accomodate 6 or 7 gpus, like the Asus Z270 Prime A board. It might cost you $20 more, but this is a drop in the ocean with the going profitability, right?
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Fellow miners, get your thens and thans in order and help other forum readers understand what you are writing. Remember the grammar basics: B larger THAN A (comparator operator). If something THEN ....
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