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June 12, 2017, 08:18:14 PM
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I made a bitcoin transaction on the 2017-05-21 00:15:59 today is the 2017-06-12 8:26:34 that is 3 weeks (21days) yet the transaction is still unconfirmed and the bitcoins have not yet been returned to my wallet as others will suspect so am considering the bitcoins in the transaction stuck..

i have scared through the net for about 2 days now looking for solutions. i found soo many none of which could work in my case.
 
the first solution i saw was to use viabtc.com. which is a website that facilitates bitcoin transactions. but i when tried using them they said my transaction fee was too low.. Yes i blame my self on this because i intentionally set the transaction fee too low. this was because my transaction fee were getting alarming as i was receiving multiply small bitcoin payments which increased my number of inputs per transaction when i want to send btc. and since btc transaction fees are calculated based on inputs and outputs and not amount of bitcoin sent, my transaction fee had to increase. i paid equal amount of fee as the amount i wanted to send in  a particular transaction this is the hash of the transactions where i spent the same on transaction fee as the amount i wanted to send
f09a4f8165e622424cae9b2b0fbcb231688ec308336ab41dec2668f75181750b you can verify

it got so worse that i was to pay a transaction fee which was much higher than the amount of btc i wanted to send. so i ignored the warnings of bockchain.info wallet and went ahead and specified a small transaction fee.. here is the hash of the unconfirmed  transaction
41e96bf8db40818393ed3704a0de7dab97c5955f341644608a41e85a8007c3e5 you can

The second method i tried was the double spending method which i learned from bitzuma.com following the link below
http://bitzuma.com/posts/how-to-clear-a-stuck-bitcoin-transaction/
you can know more about this method by visiting the link above or this link
http://bitcoin-development.narkive.com/NgSiQBmM/bitcoin-development-first-seen-safe-replace-by-fee
 it is simple a path which some nodes on the network accept. they replace an old unconfirmed transactions with a new one following some particular criteria in an attempt to to allow people to increase transaction fee in the new transaction so that their transactions can be confirmed.
after following the lectures i discovered that it were only possible when a single btc address sends send coins (that was the only example i saw)
and i am using a third party blockchain,info which provide different addresses per transaction so for this single transaction i acctually used 7 different wallets so using the double spending method is quite challenging
i have tried a host of others i have seen paid options but i do not trust them
i hope i will get help  here
thanks in advance
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June 12, 2017, 09:18:08 PM
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Id suggest you to run the transaction through viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ you just have to do it at a round number like 10:00pm, 11:00pm, etc... It helped me, it helped my friend and a few more people. Good luck.

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June 12, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
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Use accelerometer. Worked for me once.

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June 12, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
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Id suggest you to run the transaction through viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ you just have to do it at a round number like 10:00pm, 11:00pm, etc... It helped me, it helped my friend and a few more people. Good luck.

accelataroer doesnt work now
it is paid, some ppl charge money for it now for large txns   

Ok.....


Fee per byte   6.144 sat/B

Which miner will take this ??




Now tell me, do U have access to 1GQFALjXF4byPWarUqQX6GynR1SMfW6Rpv ?

If yes, then send from that address to another address which U control, and add 0.0040 as fee. Manually.

This is called Child Pays For Parent


Now some miner will clear both 4 u...

Otherwise it is very tough to get it cleared now Sad

Any question, pm me = )

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June 12, 2017, 09:29:39 PM
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@tyrannt and minecashe in case you didn't read his post he can't use viabtc because fee is too low!

OP i can only suggest you to send PM to this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946761.0 he is speeding up transactions.
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June 12, 2017, 09:31:23 PM
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In case you didn't read his post he can't use viabtc because fee is too low!

OP i can only suggest you to send PM to this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946761.0 he is speeding up transactions.


I didnt tell to use Via BTC... Via BTC is not accepting anything now
I had mining contract there  and only then they allow people to submit txn


I said another method CPFP
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June 12, 2017, 09:38:43 PM
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@tyrannt and minecashe in case you didn't read his post he can't use viabtc because fee is too low!

OP i can only suggest you to send PM to this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946761.0 he is speeding up transactions.

Yeah, my bad.

Well you can just try and wait untill it's returned back to you. Since you can't use viabtc because of the fee and since apparently it isn't working anymore, You can just wait... tho 21 days is a pretty long period.

I don't know any other way than this one so I can just tell you to wait it out and hope for the best. :/


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June 12, 2017, 09:40:58 PM
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During periods of congestion it's wise to use RBF.

Since its too late you need to shutdown the suspect wallet. Turn off your internet. Launch the wallet and delete the suspect transaction. Create a new transaction with a higher fee and save it. Shutdown the wallet. Wait 36 hours and then broadcast the transaction. You have now double-spent the old transaction out of the system and the new one will be mined.
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June 12, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
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I am wondering, how much did you send? The suggested fee was .0001 and for me that is not that bad. You said that you don't need to pay a fee more than the bitcoin you have sent, which I think is pretty small too. This is why we just need to follow the suggested fee for a transaction, we don't need to experience this, just take these as a lesson learned.

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June 12, 2017, 09:46:22 PM
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Wait for the coins to get back to your wallet when the transaction is dropped from the blockchain network. They send the coins with a fee of 0.003-0.005 and it should get confirmed within 2-3 days. That's the only option left as paid accelerators charge a fee which can be even more expensive for you since your tx size is 16276 bytes which is huge and viabtc is not accepting transactions as of now.


Kindly don't accept small transactions that increase the transaction size when you spend them and you end up paying a huge fee while spending the coins.

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June 12, 2017, 09:50:14 PM
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During periods of congestion it's wise to use RBF.

Since its too late you need to shutdown the suspect wallet. Turn off your internet. Launch the wallet and delete the suspect transaction. Create a new transaction with a higher fee and save it. Shutdown the wallet. Wait 36 hours and then broadcast the transaction. You have now double-spent the old transaction out of the system and the new one will be mined.

RBF depends on where he sent it from

If it is electrum, he has to enable it...

or edit the raw txn create a new one from coinb.in... bit complex for the amount involved

so safest IMP is cpfp, if he has control of wallet I said earlier


sorry no miner will accept 0.0001 fee now... they are rejecting even 0.0004 nowdays


to get correct fee: go to https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

and use : the fee given below:
for example:

For the median transaction size of 226 bytes, this results in a fee of 88,140 satoshis.

so he should put the fee as 0.00088140
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June 12, 2017, 09:57:10 PM
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Wait for the coins to get back to your wallet when the transaction is dropped from the blockchain network. They send the coins with a fee of 0.003-0.005 and it should get confirmed within 2-3 days. That's the only option left as paid accelerators charge a fee which can be even more expensive for you since your tx size is 16276 bytes which is huge and viabtc is not accepting transactions as of now.


Kindly don't accept small transactions that increase the transaction size when you spend them and you end up paying a huge fee while spending the coins.


the problem is this txn is rebroadcast many times as he is connected to network

now either he confirms it or it will keep in limbo for many more days


ideally for this txn, he must have used: 16276 * 390 = .06347640 for confirmation within 30 minutes
high txn as there is to much inputs
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June 13, 2017, 02:57:06 AM
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Id suggest you to run the transaction through viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ you just have to do it at a round number like 10:00pm, 11:00pm, etc... It helped me, it helped my friend and a few more people. Good luck.
what time zone are you talking about sir?  because like said i tried the site earlier and the told me through a prompted massage that the transaction fee is too low
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June 13, 2017, 03:01:33 AM
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Id suggest you to run the transaction through viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ you just have to do it at a round number like 10:00pm, 11:00pm, etc... It helped me, it helped my friend and a few more people. Good luck.

accelataroer doesnt work now
it is paid, some ppl charge money for it now for large txns   

Ok.....


Fee per byte   6.144 sat/B

Which miner will take this ??




Now tell me, do U have access to 1GQFALjXF4byPWarUqQX6GynR1SMfW6Rpv ?

If yes, then send from that address to another address which U control, and add 0.0040 as fee. Manually.

This is called Child Pays For Parent


Now some miner will clear both 4 u...

Otherwise it is very tough to get it cleared now Sad

Any question, pm me = )


no that address is owned by an online merchant i do not have control over it
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June 13, 2017, 03:06:54 AM
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These days you can see more transactions getting stuck to the network. This is entirely the common thing that happens when price increase takes place. A perfect solution can be got only​ when the blocksize issue comes to an conclusion, rather than which using the transaction accelerator similar to viabtc is the only go.

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June 13, 2017, 03:18:02 AM
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The average bitcoin transaction as of today is 0.005 USD/per bytes as i remembered and it is not suitable for low transactions cause it will only ger stuck like yours, if you have sent a small amount of transactions you could have atleast send 0.001 so the blockchain network will not have a hard time confirming it. And another thing is that th cost doesn't calculate on how much you have sent but actually it the size of the data that is being sent. If a bitcoin scaling solution and lightning network gets implemented all this delays will be and it will also fix the malleability that bitcoin that has been having in many years.

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June 13, 2017, 03:29:21 AM
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During periods of congestion it's wise to use RBF.

Since its too late you need to shutdown the suspect wallet. Turn off your internet. Launch the wallet and delete the suspect transaction. Create a new transaction with a higher fee and save it. Shutdown the wallet. Wait 36 hours and then broadcast the transaction. You have now double-spent the old transaction out of the system and the new one will be mined.

i am using a third a party wallet from blockchain.org and for this single transaction they used 7 wallet addresses  to send the bitcoins. so it will get a little exciting to do what you are suggesting for the following reasons.
1.) its a third party account shutting  it down is another issue
 2.) they used upto 7 wallet to make the payments so doing the double spending is a little complicated
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June 13, 2017, 03:42:00 AM
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I am wondering, how much did you send? The suggested fee was .0001 and for me that is not that bad. You said that you don't need to pay a fee more than the bitcoin you have sent, which I think is pretty small too. This is why we just need to follow the suggested fee for a transaction, we don't need to experience this, just take these as a lesson learned.

You do have a point, but this is just normal, this stuck transactions is always happening when there are too many transactions in the blockchain. We could just wait till this transaction of ours get confirmed because if this will just stuck on it forever, then we can't do anything about it, unless we are going to contact the support of a certain wallet that you have use or whatever it is just to send coins.

Then if their support can't reverse the transaction so that you could get back your bitcoin, then all you can do is to accept it that you just lost your bitcoin and move on, and think that you could get it back because you could earn more.
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June 13, 2017, 04:15:32 AM
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This is why:


1. dont use third party wallet

2. use a small change adress which you control


This txn is not a lot of money, so lesson is learnt  Smiley

In future, use good fees, and use a change address that you own that atleast has 0.01 in change, so that even if it gets stuck somehow, you can use CPFP
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June 13, 2017, 01:51:37 PM
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Wait for the coins to get back to your wallet when the transaction is dropped from the blockchain network. They send the coins with a fee of 0.003-0.005 and it should get confirmed within 2-3 days. That's the only option left as paid accelerators charge a fee which can be even more expensive for you since your tx size is 16276 bytes which is huge and viabtc is not accepting transactions as of now.


Kindly don't accept small transactions that increase the transaction size when you spend them and you end up paying a huge fee while spending the coins.


the problem is this txn is rebroadcast many times as he is connected to network

now either he confirms it or it will keep in limbo for many more days


ideally for this txn, he must have used: 16276 * 390 = .06347640 for confirmation within 30 minutes
high txn as there is to much inputs

The transaction would be dropped within 1-2 months and it doesn't stay in limbo for years. The same happened with me once where even I added a 6 sats/byte fee.

Anyways, he has already got his transaction confirmed by paying 0.01477746 BTC as fee which was really huge for a transaction worth 0.02977738 BTC. Next time you can try with 50 sats/byte as even then your transaction does get confirmed within few hours.

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