Muhammed Zakir hacked? Account reactivated just now

[kiklo]

All DT members make questionable calls on situations like these. From my speculation, Lauda has made the worst calls. Nothing is worse than a red tag an innocent person doesn't deserve. All DT members make mistakes, and for sure many of them have jumped the creek and made a guess here or there. It seems that Lauda does not think the rating's thoroughly, and simply puts red. This is very unfair.

theymos, something must be done.

I  have got to ask you  where have you been for 2 years?  

You have a 2 year shutdown  from 2015 to 2017  this attracts attention  from  people that try to do security.

I gave you stellar trust  back in Dec 2014  and now I am reviewing  your account and a dozen others that are gapped with inactivity then started up again.

I frankly  don't want to bother  but Muhammed Zakir has asked me more then once to review  accounts to see if they were bad.  

So  who are you?  The real  boldar  or  the same person that hacked into  bitcointalk data base?  Or a different hacker.

I do not like doing detective work  and I am not going to redline you  or pull my  trust away.

But 2 year gaps  in activity make me nervous.

Oh , I got this one.

Translation, I am a friend of Lauda and if you keep making waves, I will remove you from my trust.

Real classy Dick Move there philipma1957.  
It is people like you that enable Lauda to abuse all of the non default trust members.


 

FYI:
If you are going to threaten someone don't be a pussy about it.

FYI2:
This should show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the majority of DT members are acting as prison guards ,
right before your eyes an attempt at intimidation of another DT member.
Where is Theymos doing nothing to fix his broken trust system as usual.

[philipma1957]

All DT members make questionable calls on situations like these. From my speculation, Lauda has made the worst calls. Nothing is worse than a red tag an innocent person doesn't deserve. All DT members make mistakes, and for sure many of them have jumped the creek and made a guess here or there. It seems that Lauda does not think the rating's thoroughly, and simply puts red. This is very unfair.

theymos, something must be done.

I  have got to ask you  where have you been for 2 years?  

You have a 2 year shutdown  from 2015 to 2017  this attracts attention  from  people that try to do security.

I gave you stellar trust  back in Dec 2014  and now I am reviewing  your account and a dozen others that are gapped with inactivity then started up again.

I frankly  don't want to bother  but Muhammed Zakir has asked me more then once to review  accounts to see if they were bad.  

So  who are you?  The real  boldar  or  the same person that hacked into  bitcointalk data base?  Or a different hacker.

I do not like doing detective work  and I am not going to redline you  or pull my  trust away.

But 2 year gaps  in activity make me nervous.

Oh , I got this one.

Translation, I am a friend of Lauda and if you keep making waves, I will remove you from my trust.

Real classy Dick Move there philipma1957.  
It is people like you that enable Lauda to abuse all of the non default trust members.


 

FYI:
If you are going to threaten someone don't be a pussy about it.

FYI2:
This should show beyond a shadow of a doubt that the majority of DT members are acting as prison guards ,
right before your eyes an attempt at intimidation of another DT member.
Where is Theymos doing nothing to fix his broken trust system as usual.

Actually no I don't bother much in security matters on site.  but I have given trust ratings out since 2012  and a pattern of long inactive accounts coming back to life is happening.  So as I said I made a note here  and thats all I am doing.

Years ago I was asked by theymos to go on the default list.  I did it to be helpful and I have help many people.

I have one thing to say about the trust system  it has issues  and if you can write up a better way to fix it  I would support that.

I think you don't realize the volume the site sees.
 I get 1000 pm's a month.
I get $0 for any work  I do for security .
It is also thankless as you can see. Well some of the time it is thankless.

I am mostly on btc mining alt coin mining and marketplace.  I don't want to get into site security as I am not paid for it.

I also don't think you understand that the site is subject to different laws in every country on earth.
people like theymos and lauda   can be asked by many countries to comply to the law in that country.

Believe it or not I do not know the name address or location of theymos or lauda.
I don't side for them or against them but I do know that the site creates legal obligations on the owners and runners of the site in every country in the world.

The fact is boldar went idle  for 2 year time period.  and is yet to respond to my question  whom is he or who are you.

BTW since he paid me in btc in 2014 December for gear there is an easy fix  if he has proper control of his btc he could go back to that address he paid me with and do a dust send to my address. that  pretty proves whom he is.  and he is yet to answer here.

you can feel free to look at the trust I have given and join to people that look wrong as I have invited multiple people to do this and I have done changes on request if they appeared to be good.  I have turned lauda down on some requests to alter my default list on at least one occasion.

[digaran]

Because it does not matter what theymos thinks. It matters what hilarious and Zepher think.

Actually it matters if theymos removes them from his trust list, while none of this matters if you look at the bigger picture here, any body no matter how good and trustworthy could at any time turn into a scammer.
If it didn't matter what theymos thinks while he is the admin and the entire trust system of this forum is based on his decision and his call then your green trust worth nothing.
IMO trust must be earned by consensus, when some body from DT wants to tag  some body else then at least 5 more DT members should review the case before it takes effect, it doesn't work if you let every DT member individually decide and judges and acts accordingly, why do you think in courts there are a bunch strangers deciding the fate of the defendant?

If admin says that he trusts X & Y then he is giving them the absolute power, and that power is the same power which corrupts people and gives them false sense of authority.

I wish you luck though with your circle of trust, people will continue scamming, killing and destroying, 90% of thieves never wanted to steal but they were impulsive and acted because of temptation of having money, item, property.

Being on the DT list should be deemed sacred because it is nothing less than the sacred duty of a judge in a court of law but DT members are taking it very lightly.

[philipma1957]

Because it does not matter what theymos thinks. It matters what hilarious and Zepher think.

Actually it matters if theymos removes them from his trust list, while none of this matters if you look at the bigger picture here, any body no matter how good and trustworthy could at any time turn into a scammer.
If it didn't matter what theymos thinks while he is the admin and the entire trust system of this forum is based on his decision and his call then your green trust worth nothing.
IMO trust must be earned by consensus, when some body from DT wants to tag  some body else then at least 5 more DT members should review the case before it takes effect, it doesn't work if you let every DT member individually decide and judges and acts accordingly, why do you think in courts there are a bunch strangers deciding the fate of the defendant?

If admin says that he trusts X & Y then he is giving them the absolute power, and that power is the same power which corrupts people and gives them false sense of authority.

I wish you luck though with your circle of trust, people will continue scamming, killing and destroying, 90% of thieves never wanted to steal but they were impulsive and acted because of temptation of having money, item, property.

Being on the DT list should be deemed sacred because it is nothing less than the sacred duty of a judge in a court of law but DT members are taking it very lightly.

usa law does it that way.
uk law jurors are hired workers and they do know one another.

2 countries both speak english yet different laws.
and the owners running the forum could be made to answer in either country if either country said  a law was broken by the four and went after the forum.

It is not easy to run a perfect forum with the volume of traffic done here.

in the case of boldar I am happy to say I have his old  tx id  and he can pm me and send me 0.00001234 btc which I would refund back to him.

he simply needs to use the same address he used back in dec 2014

https://blockchain.info/tx/08537f20b649c0daa29f7c8cca7195d9c1a75fa1a707688e1edcbe232eaba30c


BTW  my profile address does not change

https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

if boldar  had done the same  it would not be an issue.

While I do not like involvement on the security end of the forum I can tell you this  it is very hard to  do it correctly and people responsible will tend to be harsh to protect the forum and their own self from legal action.

If nothing was said about bolder or Muhammed Zakir  and a big fraud happened  the forum could be shut down or face legal action.

I am older retired person 60 and I can tell you  a little about USA law and I see nothing wrong with the caution used by dt list.  in the case of Muhammed Zakir or boldar.   If some one wants to write up a better method please do I would look at it and push it if it looked good.

Meeting in the middle works for me.  Thanks!

Paid with Transaction ID: 08537f20b649c0daa29f7c8cca7195d9c1a75fa1a707688e1edcbe232eaba30c

Please ship to:

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Thanks so much!

this is his pm from 2014 dec

[kiklo]

I am older retired person 60 and I can tell you  a little about USA law and I see nothing wrong with the caution used by dt list.  in the case of Muhammed Zakir or boldar.   If some one wants to write up a better method please do I would look at it and push it if it looked good.

The best one written was even better than my prior suggestions.
Theymos ignored it like he ignores everything else.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1913408.msg19011283#msg19011283

It is interesting that with a admitted flawed trust system, and an over aggressive ex staff member,
that all of you want to blame the one pointing out the flaws and instead of agreeing something needs to be done to fix the system

Please, enlighten us on how we can fix the system.
It's extremely easy to say that a system is broken. Providing a fix that makes sense and doesn't just move the issues somewhere else is significantly harder.

Not difficult at all , modify the system so you can PM a Trust group request to another member for say 7 or 14 or 30 days or whatever time is needed,
if that member accepts the trust group request, their names are entered into a database, so that they can then rate any person in their group for up to that time period, once the time period expires, no further ratings are possible unless a new trust group PM is sent out and accepted.
All ratings from a Trust Group have equal weight, nothing is untrusted as both parties agreed to it ahead of time. 
So no trust monarchy and no bad ratings from people just because they don't like what the other says.

 

[shorena]

Because it does not matter what theymos thinks. It matters what hilarious and Zepher think.

Actually it matters if theymos removes them from his trust list, while none of this matters if you look at the bigger picture here, any body no matter how good and trustworthy could at any time turn into a scammer.
If it didn't matter what theymos thinks while he is the admin and the entire trust system of this forum is based on his decision and his call then your green trust worth nothing.

Might as well ask president trump, because there is the slight chance they might start a war on bitcointalk.org. Admins set people on DT to keep out of these issues.

-snip-
Being on the DT list should be deemed sacred because it is nothing less than the sacred duty of a judge in a court of law but DT members are taking it very lightly.

I agree and maybe the system can be improved, but this is hardly the topic here, is it?

[minifrij]

The best one written was even better than my prior suggestions.
Theymos ignored it like he ignores everything else.

Since I missed my opportunity to reply to this when it was posted in the original thread, let me tell you why this system isn't fit for the forum whatsoever.

Not difficult at all , modify the system so you can PM a Trust group request to another member for say 7 or 14 or 30 days or whatever time is needed,
if that member accepts the trust group request, their names are entered into a database, so that they can then rate any person in their group for up to that time period, once the time period expires, no further ratings are possible unless a new trust group PM is sent out and accepted.

What scammer would agree to being in a trust group with someone who would tag them? This system gives scammers a free reign to do whatever they like because they know that they wouldn't be able to be tagged with a negative rating so long as they didn't agree to be in a trust group with anyone. This completely removes the entire point of the trust system.

All ratings from a Trust Group have equal weight, nothing is untrusted as both parties agreed to it ahead of time.

Ah yes, so if a new member that didn't understand the system properly agreed to be in a trust group it could be abused by anyone to leave spam negative ratings. I for one would love to see newbies be spammed with hundreds of negative ratings by trolls because they didn't understand what the system did. /s

So no trust monarchy and no bad ratings from people just because they don't like what the other says.

Apart from it solves neither of those problems, it just lets people spam ratings on people that they don't like because they don't understand the system.
Also, let's assume that this forum is fantastic and everyone understands how the system works. What's to stop someone from requesting to be in a trust group in order to give positive trust, only to then have lied and spams the user with negative trust instead?


Overall, an idiotic system written by an idiot and promoted by another idiot. If this is the 'best' system that you know of, you should get one of your family members to put you into an institution.

[philipma1957]

The best one written was even better than my prior suggestions.
Theymos ignored it like he ignores everything else.

Since I missed my opportunity to reply to this when it was posted in the original thread, let me tell you why this system isn't fit for the forum whatsoever.

Not difficult at all , modify the system so you can PM a Trust group request to another member for say 7 or 14 or 30 days or whatever time is needed,
if that member accepts the trust group request, their names are entered into a database, so that they can then rate any person in their group for up to that time period, once the time period expires, no further ratings are possible unless a new trust group PM is sent out and accepted.

What scammer would agree to being in a trust group with someone who would tag them? This system gives scammers a free reign to do whatever they like because they know that they wouldn't be able to be tagged with a negative rating so long as they didn't agree to be in a trust group with anyone. This completely removes the entire point of the trust system.

All ratings from a Trust Group have equal weight, nothing is untrusted as both parties agreed to it ahead of time.

Ah yes, so if a new member that didn't understand the system properly agreed to be in a trust group it could be abused by anyone to leave spam negative ratings. I for one would love to see newbies be spammed with hundreds of negative ratings by trolls because they didn't understand what the system did. /s

So no trust monarchy and no bad ratings from people just because they don't like what the other says.

Apart from it solves neither of those problems, it just lets people spam ratings on people that they don't like because they don't understand the system.
Also, let's assume that this forum is fantastic and everyone understands how the system works. What's to stop someone from requesting to be in a trust group in order to give positive trust, only to then have lied and spams the user with negative trust instead?


Overall, an idiotic system written by an idiot and promoted by another idiot. If this is the 'best' system that you know of, you should get one of your family members to put you into an institution.

Well  I just figured the long play scammer could create a trust group using 8 accounts  with 8 people in on it.

do a lot of .01 or less btc deals with everyone clean for 3 months.  Then do some 1 or 2 coin fakes deals almost each other.

At this point 4-6 months are past and then do a large group buy and skip with the coin.  Yeah it is a six month time frame but  8 guys getting 160 coins from a fake group buy may do it.

[kiklo]

Overall, an idiotic system written by an idiot and promoted by another idiot. If this is the 'best' system that you know of, you should get one of your family members to put you into an institution.

Kid ,
I know you are young , but why are you such a damn fool.

You talk like you know shit , the fact is , you are a wet behind the ear child, less than 21 years old that does not know shit.  You make false claims like when you said IP address could be faked for 2 way communications.

Trying to talk like you are an authority on shit , is stupid.  
YOU ARE NOT!

So unless you actually learn something SHUT THE FUCK UP!
The Grown ups are talking.
Come back when you are over 25 and not so damn stupid.


 

Well  I just figured the long play scammer could create a trust group using 8 accounts  with 8 people in on it.

do a lot of .01 or less btc deals with everyone clean for 3 months.  Then do some 1 or 2 coin fakes deals almost each other.

At this point 4-6 months are past and then do a large group buy and skip with the coin.  Yeah it is a six month time frame but  8 guys getting 160 coins from a fake group buy may do it.

And what keeps the current DT members from creating new accounts and giving trust right now.
Nothing so your point is mute, as least with the new way their is a time imposed ,
with the current corrupt system they can add new fake names and granting fake Positive trust ,
which some are doing NOW!


 

FYI:
Where is all of this analysis on the current corrupt trust system?
You will insult a newer better design over the corrupt current design, what does that say about you?

[minifrij]

You make false claims like when you said IP address could be faked for 2 way communications.

Only to then apologize when I was found to be wrong. I only wish you had the integrity to do the same.

Trying to talk like you are an authority on shit , is stupid.  
YOU ARE NOT!

I don't believe you need any authority to perform critical analysis on a broken system. Who knows.

So unless you actually learn something SHUT THE FUCK UP!
The Grown ups are talking.
Come back when you are over 25 and not so damn stupid.

I do think it's a shame that you dismiss my arguments simply because I do not pass an arbitrary age requirement, though at least it shows you have nothing to actually say about the points I have raised and therefore have to attack my character instead. You're certainly a model member of this forum that everyone can look up to.

FYI:
Where is all of this analysis on the current corrupt trust system?

I actually answered your question in a different thread, to which you actually quoted my answer. Here it is in case you have forgotten:

Please, enlighten us on how we can fix the system.
It's extremely easy to say that a system is broken. Providing a fix that makes sense and doesn't just move the issues somewhere else is significantly harder.

Until you can refute my arguments with something other than a possible mental breakdown, your 'better' system is a load of shit that is broken in every possible way in my eyes (and probably everyone with any sort of understanding of what a trust system should achieve).

[kiklo]

All right kid,

List your reasons in order why you don't think Aztek's idea would work and I will tell you why you are wrong.
School is in.  


 


FYI:
Must be a school night, his Mom must have sent the kid to bed.  

FYI2:

Not difficult at all , modify the system so you can PM a Trust group request to another member for say 7 or 14 or 30 days or whatever time is needed,
if that member accepts the trust group request, their names are entered into a database, so that they can then rate any person in their group for up to that time period, once the time period expires, no further ratings are possible unless a new trust group PM is sent out and accepted.

What scammer would agree to being in a trust group with someone who would tag them? This system gives scammers a free reign to do whatever they like because they know that they wouldn't be able to be tagged with a negative rating so long as they didn't agree to be in a trust group with anyone. This completely removes the entire point of the trust system.

You are an idiot , kid.
If the scammer never agrees to a trust group, they never receive any positive or negative ratings.
*This prevents assholes like Lauda from negatively rating people that would never trust her lying ass anyway.*
None of this political red tagging would be possible.

If the scammer fakes positive ratings from multiple alts they control, only 1 negative rating will destroy all of that work. Where as with the current Piece of shit trust system, any DT member can add any of their fake alts everyday when no issues.
example: How do you know Blazed and Lauda are not the exact same person.
Answer : You Don't!

All ratings from a Trust Group have equal weight, nothing is untrusted as both parties agreed to it ahead of time.

Ah yes, so if a new member that didn't understand the system properly agreed to be in a trust group it could be abused by anyone to leave spam negative ratings. I for one would love to see newbies be spammed with hundreds of negative ratings by trolls because they didn't understand what the system did. /s

Kid, if you are so Damn Stupid , you agree to what should look like a contract, you should get ripped off.
If I hand you a Document and you sign it without reading it, you already confirmed yourself as a moron , and will be ripped off rather quickly. In other words , read shit before you sign it.

What the new design gives is Choice , you have a choice whether you are entered into a contract with that person or not.

The Current Design is a Master / Slave relationship ,
DT members are the masters and you are their slaves as you have no recourse except begging like a slave for forgiveness.

*** So pardon my French , But FUCK THAT! ***

[Muhammed Zakir]

Please keep off topic posts out of this thread. Thank you!

[minifrij]

List your reasons in order why you don't think Aztek's idea would work and I will tell you why you are wrong.

See my previous post:

Overall, an idiotic system written by an idiot and promoted by another idiot. If this is the 'best' system that you know of, you should get one of your family members to put you into an institution.

I request that you reply in a new topic and PM me the link though, to respect MZ's wishes.

Must be a school night, his Mom must have sent the kid to bed.

Not everyone lives in the same timezone.

Please keep off topic posts out of this thread. Thank you!

My apologies, this will be my last reply here.

[theymos]

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

Same geolocation.

If someone knew Muhammed Zakir's previous location and knew that this issue would come up in advance, they could use a proxy located in the right area. But it's rather unlikely.

[Timelord2067]

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

Same geolocation.

If someone knew Muhammed Zakir's previous location and knew that this issue would come up in advance, they could use a proxy located in the right area. But it's rather unlikely.

@theymos: TomatoCage's UID appears to have been hacked, when challenged to provide a signed message, they went offline.

[Chevas Regal]

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

Spoofing the IP address and Geo location is a trivial task, even a high school geek can do it.
Call someone over Skype, get his/her IP and spoof it, fairly simple.

[shorena]

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

Spoofing the IP address and Geo location is a trivial task, even a high school geek can do it.
Call someone over Skype, get his/her IP and spoof it, fairly simple.

It hurts. Wana bet? If theymos agrees, I give you a valid, working, online IP, you have to make a post here from it. If you can you get the coins BTC if you cant I do. 0.1 BTC?

[Chevas Regal]

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

Spoofing the IP address and Geo location is a trivial task, even a high school geek can do it.
Call someone over Skype, get his/her IP and spoof it, fairly simple.

It hurts. Wana bet? If theymos agrees, I give you a valid, working, online IP, you have to make a post here from it. If you can you get the coins BTC if you cant I do. 0.1 BTC?

why are you so excited suddenly? Are you a fool, dont know anything about google captcha? you cannot bypass it , if you try then it will ask for clicks on various images and thus will extract your original ip.

what i say is that i can spoof his or your IP , if i have , i can get it verify by whatismyipaddress,com, but not bypass google captcha which this forum use.

There are similar ways in wich you can send spoof emails , but if you know the person valid ip then email spoof is well played.

[kiklo]

Same IP(s) or same location? Spoofing the location would be fairly trivial.

Same geolocation.

If someone knew Muhammed Zakir's previous location and knew that this issue would come up in advance, they could use a proxy located in the right area. But it's rather unlikely.

Aside from the False Retarded Negative Ratings from Overzealous DT members,
hilariousandco
lauda

None of you seem to have any proof of wrong doing.

DT member seem to follow the same requirements as the Salem witch trials.
Tied them up and throw them in the water ,
if they float , they are a witch and you burn them at the stake.
if they drown , well they were a good Christian, may God rest their soul. 

Maybe DT members should back the fuck off , until their is evidence of a scam.
Or is this guy going to run an escrow service, so Lauda & Blazed need him red tag so he can't compete.

@Theymos, guess your DT members just ignore the daylights out of you, huh?
They should have removed the negs on MZ days ago.

 

[SaShiRaJaVu]

To all the smart asses who think that MZ could spoof his IP and shit like that  ,it is possible but you must understand that theymos just confirmed that he is using the same geo location and i had a conversation with MZ in our mother tongue and he replied me in our language, i did not come here and write this before is because he did not reply me extensively and i am writing here now because theymos confirmed his geo location. I personally do not know MZ but the language we speak is exclusive for our state.