Im starting a new bitcoin-related project. ANONYMOUS OR NOT?

[Alex Zee]

Its only hard in my case to explain that is provably fair, but ill try, and if i cant i will show my identity!

If it's "fair" then it's not exactly gambling. Either you provide a valuable service or you tax ignorant and overly-optimistic people. Which one is it?

[1715661395]

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[nicolazza]

Well in my site users will bet against other users. Its not a "game against a machine" site in which i have to demonstrate that my code is provably fair.
My only job will be to monitor the progress of betting and block users who try to cheat other users with fake bet and so on.

So i cannot demonstrate that my site is provably fair, because i will fight against "cheater".
All i can do (and its just done) is to automatically refund money to fair users if i find a cheater. It quite difficult (you will see) but i NEED to protect my fair users.

[nicolazza]

Think about a poker site. How site owner can demonstrate that is provably fair? He can only watch to poker challenges and block cheater.
Any other idea? All suggestions are welcome 

[Alex Zee]

How are you gonna make money?

[nicolazza]

How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

EDIT: for example an house edge of 98%      (kidding)

[Alex Zee]

How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

Congratulations, you are doing classical gambling

[nicolazza]

How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

Congratulations, you are doing classical gambling

I dont think so, you will see..however the problem is that till now i cannot demonstrate that is provably fair because i only create the "space" in which users bet. I dont care if a user win/lost thousand $ or cents...i only have to watch at the bets and eventually refund fair users.

So, i think ill show my identity

[nicolazza]

How are you gonna make money?

There is an house edge on each bet.

Congratulations, you are doing classical gambling

When the site is ready, will you test it with me? I will pm you 

[escrow.ms]

Find a Trusted partner from some other country, Run project on his details.

[luv2drnkbr]

There is a third option which erases most of the cons of anonymity you listed.  Go anonymous in that your IRL is never divulged, but create a strong identity and presence with your forum handle.  Be active and have great customer service and do everything you can to reach out to your userbase and the community.  Be as transparent as you can possibly be with revealing yourself, use cryptographically "provable" techniques for your service whenever possible.  Help users verify things.

It may take longer, but you will gain trust and reputation and eventually have a flourishing service.

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

[Alex Zee]

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

Exactly

I wish more people would self-defeat their own arguments 

[nicolazza]

Find a Trusted partner from some other country, Run project on his details.

This was one of my favourite solutions, but i realized that it not the same if i show my REAL identity.

There is a third option which erases most of the cons of anonymity you listed.  Go anonymous in that your IRL is never divulged, but create a strong identity and presence with your forum handle.  Be active and have great customer service and do everything you can to reach out to your userbase and the community.  Be as transparent as you can possibly be with revealing yourself, use cryptographically "provable" techniques for your service whenever possible.  Help users verify things.

It may take longer, but you will gain trust and reputation and eventually have a flourishing service.

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

+1
now on this forum i have a little more then 70 messages, so i will surely keep posting and "living" on this forum but till now i dont have a "strong forum" identity, and obviously i dont want to spam in order to obtain it  

regarding site support, it will be one of the most important focuses of my staff.

i know that when the site will be online and working, i will build my strong (real) identity by answering to all critics and support messages and by explaining my project here on this forum, but the only thing that will make user trust my site since opening is to show my identity

[nicolazza]

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

Using my real identity this will be hard to do, i think

[Alex Zee]

You know what you can start doing to help improve your online identity? Capitalizing the 'i'.

[Atruk]

(At which point you can pull a Pirate and disappear with our monies, having pulled a very successful long con.)

Using my real identity this will be hard to do, i think

It can be hard to maintain anonymity if you scam as well, Pirateat40 being Trendon Shavers is one example. The scam accusations board has many more...

[nicolazza]

You know what you can start doing to help improve your online identity? Capitalizing the 'i'.

oh, your advice is so generous 

It can be hard to maintain anonymity if you scam as well, Pirateat40 being Trendon Shavers is one example. The scam accusations board has many more...

this confirm my point, real identity is the solution

[axus]

Start anonymous, see how that goes.  Once you have something going, you can always reveal yourself.

[Herbert]

Find a way to make the gambling provably fair for your users. Without this it will get difficult, no matter if you as the operator are anonymous or not. IF the site operates provably fair there is no need for you to be public. Math is always better than a pseudo-public identity which could still be a carefully laid out fake.

[Atruk]

It can be hard to maintain anonymity if you scam as well, Pirateat40 being Trendon Shavers is one example. The scam accusations board has many more...

this confirm my point, real identity is the solution

Well, there's been people who have sullied their real names to scam as well,  but many of the scammers operating under their real names simply overpromised and failed in the face of reality.

What you really need to do as you build your site infrastructure is build a reputation for competence and honesty. Trade frequently whether you do it under a real or assumed name. Do join the WOT. Maybe test the registration and login process with a couple other names first so you don't register a key only to find you can't log in.

You can bit coin with a real name or pseudonymously (like anonymous, but some people retain your powerword), but don't assume any screen name can be completely separated from meatspace.

[greyhawk]

You are already not anonymous.

You are Nicolò Maria Lazzarin of Montemarciano, Italy. I'll refrain from calling you to demonstrate my point.

Anonymity on the Internet is a myth. Trying to hide your details will only flag you as a proto scammer. It will protect you from nothing.