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Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.
life isn't fair ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge? and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said. I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income. If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site.
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June 16, 2017, 06:20:34 PM |
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Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.
life isn't fair ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge? and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said. I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income. If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site. Yeah it sounds fishy to me, or there is more to it than just a 0% edge. Casinos need capital to sustain losses during volatile periods and pay their running costs. I think any casino advertising 0% edge is likely a scam.
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June 16, 2017, 06:21:57 PM |
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Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.
life isn't fair ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge? and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said. I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income. If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site. Yeah, I have the same questions in mind. I dont think there's any decent casino which can sustain itself only on ads on the site. More the ads more the revenue but also more annoyance for the player. The only way I see a no edge casino to work is, it being rigged.
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June 16, 2017, 10:10:33 PM |
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Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.
life isn't fair ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge? and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said. I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income. If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site. Yeah, I have the same questions in mind. I dont think there's any decent casino which can sustain itself only on ads on the site. More the ads more the revenue but also more annoyance for the player. The only way I see a no edge casino to work is, it being rigged. i think we only need to wait how long will be that site online and run their business. because without any income, then i think its really hard for the site to maintain operations cost and this will give impact for the site itself and if they are not serious to make longer business, then they will only run for short time and after that, they will close their business.
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June 16, 2017, 10:41:06 PM |
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Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.
life isn't fair ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge? and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said. I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income. If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site. Yeah, I have the same questions in mind. I dont think there's any decent casino which can sustain itself only on ads on the site. More the ads more the revenue but also more annoyance for the player. The only way I see a no edge casino to work is, it being rigged. i think we only need to wait how long will be that site online and run their business. because without any income, then i think its really hard for the site to maintain operations cost and this will give impact for the site itself and if they are not serious to make longer business, then they will only run for short time and after that, they will close their business. yes that is right in fact they can sustain and continue their casino successfully if they have some edge. may be some casino have no edge for advertisement purpose for some specific time but they cannot continue it for ever, and even if a casino is claiming that the have 0 edge then them must have some hidden edge or may be funding the casino from somewhere else.
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June 16, 2017, 11:08:06 PM |
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I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?
I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.
I really hope this project will work out!
They still need to pay the developers of the site, marketing, hosting, designers, and other employees, it is not like these things are given to them for free, also they are giving you a service by providing those games for you, so you may think of the house edge as the price you pay to be able to play those games, if you don’t like it, then you can do something else with your time and your money.
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June 17, 2017, 08:31:53 AM |
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I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?
I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.
I really hope this project will work out!
They still need to pay the developers of the site, marketing, hosting, designers, and other employees, it is not like these things are given to them for free, also they are giving you a service by providing those games for you, so you may think of the house edge as the price you pay to be able to play those games, if you don’t like it, then you can do something else with your time and your money. Owners of online gambling sites can not work alone, they need some help from other people to keep the site running as expected. House edge is basically intended to cover all these operational costs because the possibility of bankruptcy persists on a fair gambling site even though the possibility is very small. Gambling sites that offer 0% house edge will surely be looking for other ways to levy operational costs to their customers. If not then it is possible that the site has a bad plan in the future.
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June 17, 2017, 09:06:03 AM |
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So how will you get some revenue? I think it is impossible. If your site is fair, I think income from ads will not be enough to cover the fee of the site... Hope you are not planning to take a big fee on withdraw.
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June 17, 2017, 12:15:27 PM |
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So how will you get some revenue? I think it is impossible. If your site is fair, I think income from ads will not be enough to cover the fee of the site... Hope you are not planning to take a big fee on withdraw.
A casino that has 0% will be bankrupt very soon unless they have some other service to offer from their dear gamblers. Advertisement is going to be a one good way of getting revenue but that is not going to be enough to cover every expense. As a 0% edge casino it will attract a lot of visitors and gamblers that will enjoy that perk and make advertising effective.
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June 17, 2017, 12:42:23 PM |
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So how will you get some revenue? I think it is impossible. If your site is fair, I think income from ads will not be enough to cover the fee of the site... Hope you are not planning to take a big fee on withdraw.
A casino that has 0% will be bankrupt very soon unless they have some other service to offer from their dear gamblers. Advertisement is going to be a one good way of getting revenue but that is not going to be enough to cover every expense. As a 0% edge casino it will attract a lot of visitors and gamblers that will enjoy that perk and make advertising effective. And if that casino don`t bankrupt in short time then you need to think how they earn all that money to run a casino and make profit,. No one doesn`t like to be cheated in anyway, if you decide to go in some casino you expect that games are provably fair, and that games aren`t rigged. It`s better to have house edge and to play relaxed, if I go to casino I wish to play games and not to think about casino fairness, that thought will just distract me from my playing, and because of that I do not think about casino with 0% edge and I don`t visit that kind of casinos.
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June 17, 2017, 12:50:01 PM |
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So how will you get some revenue? I think it is impossible. If your site is fair, I think income from ads will not be enough to cover the fee of the site... Hope you are not planning to take a big fee on withdraw.
A casino that has 0% will be bankrupt very soon unless they have some other service to offer from their dear gamblers. Advertisement is going to be a one good way of getting revenue but that is not going to be enough to cover every expense. As a 0% edge casino it will attract a lot of visitors and gamblers that will enjoy that perk and make advertising effective. And if that casino don`t bankrupt in short time then you need to think how they earn all that money to run a casino and make profit,. No one doesn`t like to be cheated in anyway, if you decide to go in some casino you expect that games are provably fair, and that games aren`t rigged. It`s better to have house edge and to play relaxed, if I go to casino I wish to play games and not to think about casino fairness, that thought will just distract me from my playing, and because of that I do not think about casino with 0% edge and I don`t visit that kind of casinos. Maybe I did not understand something, but Does the casino really have an income from advertising? I understand that gambling means earnings for those gamblers who constantly play and lose their money, and not on advertising. Although in the modern world the advertising business is also quite large and has very good incomes.
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June 17, 2017, 12:52:14 PM |
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Wouldn't that be fair like in Edgeless casino where they are having 0% house edge and it is more equal between casino and player.
life isn't fair ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and why should it be with no edge here? i mean you are expecting someone to pay a lot of money for servers, designing a website, security of that website and support staff and a lot more just for you to play there and have no edge? and if you want a 0% edge game then find player versus player games. it can even be dice but i don't know if any place offers it anymore. in those games you have more chance of winning if you have the skills as NLNico also said. I really think there aren't 0% house edge of a gambling site out there and you are right if there is something that doesn't have a house edge at all how can a gambling site will prosper? and take income from the site? if they really wants to play gambling find a gambling site that have smaller house edge maybe a 5% house edge is good, you can surely have a slighter chance of winning, but I have seen just a 1% house edge that is a higher chance in winning, well you can enjoy the game and even help the people behind this type of site make an income. If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site. Yeah, I have the same questions in mind. I dont think there's any decent casino which can sustain itself only on ads on the site. More the ads more the revenue but also more annoyance for the player. The only way I see a no edge casino to work is, it being rigged. i think we only need to wait how long will be that site online and run their business. because without any income, then i think its really hard for the site to maintain operations cost and this will give impact for the site itself and if they are not serious to make longer business, then they will only run for short time and after that, they will close their business. yes that is right in fact they can sustain and continue their casino successfully if they have some edge. may be some casino have no edge for advertisement purpose for some specific time but they cannot continue it for ever, and even if a casino is claiming that the have 0 edge then them must have some hidden edge or may be funding the casino from somewhere else. i am too afraid if they have hidden some edge without we know because our money can be disappear without we realize. its better that they said that they have the fee to us so we can thinking how much we want to deposit to them and we don't have to worried about anything while we are playing gambling in their site.
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June 17, 2017, 01:15:15 PM |
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If the site is 0% house edge then how they sustain in this gambling world. How can they make a profit and how can they run their website. These are basic questions will come in mind if any casino site says they had 0% house edge. After seeing this questions also you think it is 0% house edge then no one will help you in this matter. You cannot find any 0% house edge casino site.
Not if the games are pvp like poker or blackjack. This games does not necessarily need house edge for the casino to profit. But other games that rely purely on luck like dice, plinko and other games, the casino need house edge in order to survive.
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June 17, 2017, 02:29:54 PM |
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Sure it will be better as a gambler for me, but I don't think any casino owner would take that risk. They can lose everything in one go to a high better just based on luck.
It is also why no one has ever done it till now . Just a no win.
There is already a gambling site which do have 0% house edge and that is Edgeless.io. I don't know how they are still making a bankroll if they do have 0% of house edge right? but I think that having this 0% house edge means that the players would win always. Maybe the chances of winning is higher than those gambling site which do have bigger house edge. and it is pretty good idea to have this gambling site because it would be more addicting because of the 0% house edge that they do have.
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June 17, 2017, 02:59:18 PM |
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I just found out about this project of Casino that will be opened and it has 0% Edge and I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?
I mean in Traditional Casino they need this Edge money for all the environment and all the feeling, a lot of employees and all the little things they give to us but in Online Casino, we don't get this, so why we need to pay? For them to be rich? Just this idea really annoys me.
I really hope this project will work out!
First of, you shouldn't deposit your money on a new gambling site with 0% House Edge because it might be a trap. Secondly, it's not because of the House Edge we lose in gambling. If that was the case then we'd lose only 1% of our deposit when playing on a site with 1% Edge, but for some reasons we lose it all. And the main reason is bad luck which is much worse than any House Edge however big it was.
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That idea, although very tempting for the user, however is very unsustainable and impractical for the casino, if they have no house edge then it would be the same as them gambling like everyone and not a house (casino) anymore. Some start with a promotion like reduced house edge for x, but that's not done forever and just for a week or so.
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June 17, 2017, 05:26:08 PM |
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I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?
Because almost all the online casinos are coming with player vs gambling-house type of gambling model. Hence obviously gambling houses need some advantage against the gamblers and they are taking it in the name of house edge. They justify it like they needed it for their running costs coverage. The survival cost could be covered by having some fixed fees. Still we can see no gambling houses are preferring that but they always enforcing house edge against gamblers while playing.
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June 17, 2017, 06:08:14 PM |
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I just thought, seriously, why we pay an edge in online Casinos?
Because almost all the online casinos are coming with player vs gambling-house type of gambling model. Hence obviously gambling houses need some advantage against the gamblers and they are taking it in the name of house edge. They justify it like they needed it for their running costs coverage. The survival cost could be covered by having some fixed fees. Still we can see no gambling houses are preferring that but they always enforcing house edge against gamblers while playing. You mean to say house are defeating us just through house edge ? I am not ready to agree this. It is just a game, there would be one winner and also there must be a loser. This applies to player vs player scenario also. Gamblers play multiple time hence they face losses. If you play only one roll in dice gambling then you might win near to 50% That must be the actual possibilities of any gambling.
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June 17, 2017, 06:34:46 PM |
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That's a lie a juicy and fat and wet and hot lie(lol don't take me as a pervert) you can't sustain a business if you don't cheat(have no edge) look at all of the so called successful casinos around here, they all cheat otherwise they would go bankrupt in no time. Unless you are playing against other players and not against the house then yes that is a good thing but lets be honest since when the house lets you bet against others? then what would they earn if they did that? no body donates their time, effort and servers for us to play and bet against each other.
Be careful you are revealing them. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I do think that way too. This is business and they need profit. Where would they take that if they let every gambler just win. They call it "luck", I call it being there at the right time at the right place. There maybe minutes for they let people win then goes back to eating their monies.
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