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May 06, 2013, 03:25:31 PM Last edit: March 28, 2014, 11:47:52 PM by zero3112 |
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I need help with identify any of these addresses.
14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF 152NvAmevhFMreBJ5HcoREmUqd86eusLu7 17SQPg8XTHc1TpJFEXnYVkFPwPUESsgPTu 1EC4fn8WucttGDBoqThtNYpJzu9ePoRP3P 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb 15FLowqev3DVW26fkYK6QApyb1edMtao7u 19PwXU3vMNGhLzKKaajBhBbh332KL8kB1s 1JbepNyfgi2ckcmcH1YinDfhzK3X6d3TBT 17SQPg8XTHc1TpJFEXnYVkFPwPUESsgPTu
My coins where stolen and are moving through those addresses they are likely lost but if any one can help thanks.
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zero3112 (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 06:43:15 PM |
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Your joking how can someone get 2.8 million dollars in 6 months. Could this be a mixer or cold storage wallet of some exchange?
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May 06, 2013, 06:45:47 PM |
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Your joking how can someone get 2.8 million dollars in 6 months. Could this be a mixer or cold storage wallet of some exchange?
Probably he used mtgox or some site like btc-e (e wallet).
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zero3112 (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 06:52:54 PM |
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Your joking how can someone get 2.8 million dollars in 6 months. Could this be a mixer or cold storage wallet of some exchange?
Probably he used mtgox or some site like btc-e (e wallet). It kinda looks that way based on how the address go to another and another and some branch off. Thats alot how MtGox seems to move the coins around. I have contacted them but they said none of the address I inquired about belonged to them.
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zero3112 (OP)
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May 06, 2013, 07:20:31 PM Last edit: May 11, 2013, 06:24:07 PM by zero3112 |
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14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF is tainted with my 1.37 coins which I sent to the scammer at his address 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb
What is going on with 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF once coins go there they don't leave? This is the scammers main address but then why would he not hide his coins in many addresses.
This is an exchange wallet then why are no coins coming out?
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Jack of oh so many trades.
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May 07, 2013, 01:41:04 AM |
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14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF is tainted with my coins 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb
What is going on with 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF once coins go there they don't leave? This is the scammers main address but then why would he not hide his coins in many addresses.
This is an exchange wallet then why are no coins coming out?
Maybe it's an exchange's cold storage? They only crack it open when their hot wallets are running low.
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May 07, 2013, 01:44:24 AM |
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14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF is tainted with my coins 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb
What is going on with 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF once coins go there they don't leave? This is the scammers main address but then why would he not hide his coins in many addresses.
This is an exchange wallet then why are no coins coming out?
Yeah, could be a savings account, I doubt someone who scams would have this amount without being noticed until now. I'm guessing it's a exchanges account.
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zero3112 (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 04:13:28 AM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
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May 07, 2013, 08:00:04 AM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
Try to contact all major bitcoin exchange sites
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zero3112 (OP)
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May 11, 2013, 05:39:55 PM |
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Nothing has come up with any of the exchanges they all have said the address doesn't belong to anyone in their system yet this address 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF keeps getting bigger and bigger everyday.
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May 11, 2013, 05:43:54 PM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
How can you prove the coins were really stolen instead of just voluntarily sent by you? It would be business suicide for any exchange who did what you asked!
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May 11, 2013, 06:16:44 PM |
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Well this might be a scammer's cold storage. He may move all stolen funds there (if they are really stolen funds) to do bitcoin mixing/laundering once at some point in time, and not needing to do it multiple times. 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF is tainted with my coins 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb This is interesting, as 1.5 hours after your post, someone sent you (to 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb ) 1 satoshi accusing you of scamming in a BTC/XRP deal: https://blockchain.info/tx/47dae0243c84a710b6256356dfb9fdf21e4c7e1b260ab0f7ace00562c3d222a7Either someone is making fun of you or it's the person who sent you 1.37 BTC 1 week ago to buy XRP (but from different address?) or it's the scammer trying to discredit you. You may try to follow that lead and track backward owner of this address, as it leads to three more actively used addresses. Trying to find an owner of a never-touched cold storage is doomed to fail. Edit: I didn't look at OP date (just time). That 1 satoshi was sent several days later. Still, it was sent after you make your accusations and there's not much activity on your address to support the BTC/XRP transaction claim.
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May 11, 2013, 06:23:11 PM |
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Well this might be a scammer's cold storage. He may move all stolen funds there (if they are really stolen funds) to do bitcoin mixing/laundering once at some point in time, and not needing to do it multiple times. 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF is tainted with my coins 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb This is interesting, as 1.5 hours after your post, someone sent you (to 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb ) 1 satoshi accusing you of scamming in a BTC/XRP deal: https://blockchain.info/tx/47dae0243c84a710b6256356dfb9fdf21e4c7e1b260ab0f7ace00562c3d222a7Either someone is making fun of you or it's the person who sent you 1.37 BTC 1 week ago to buy XRP (but from different address?) or it's the scammer trying to discredit you. You may try to follow that lead and track backward owner of this address, as it leads to three more actively used addresses. Trying to find an owner of a never-touched cold storage is doomed to fail. Edit: I didn't look at OP date (just time). That 1 satoshi was sent several days later. Still, it was sent after you make your accusations and there's not much activity on your address to support the BTC/XRP transaction claim. No I sent the message to the scammer. 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb is not my address its the scammer address I sent 1.37 BTC a while back to 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb and me and the foofight agreed on 24,000xrp at the time. He never sent me the xrp. I sent the 1.37 BTC. Here the proof I sent 1.37 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMbThis is where the coins came from 1Miv9V4PMi7EvVcyESm8wqJwqSwfzBrUgT and I sent to 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb however the coins wont go back to me if you send them their as it was an exchange wallet.
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May 11, 2013, 06:26:03 PM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
How can you prove the coins were really stolen instead of just voluntarily sent by you? It would be business suicide for any exchange who did what you asked! If the coins are found on exchange the scammer will be found and the funds will be taken from his account on the exchange. None of the exchange funds are the exchanges there all funds that other users deposited there.
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May 11, 2013, 06:27:36 PM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
How can you prove the coins were really stolen instead of just voluntarily sent by you? It would be business suicide for any exchange who did what you asked! If the coins are found on exchange the scammer will be found and the funds will be taken from his account on the exchange. None of the exchange funds are the exchanges there all funds that other users deposited there. You still haven't answered my question. How can you prove the coins were really stolen and that you're not just trying to scam that other user who "owns" the exchange address where the coins were sent to?
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May 11, 2013, 06:32:40 PM |
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Let me just say this again I see how this can be confusing.
1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb is not my address its the scammers address.
I think you guys think the foofight sent me bitcoins to my address then I never sent the xrp ripple if this is the case you have it backwards.
I sent foofight 1.37 bitcoins to his address which is 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb he never sent me the ripple (xrp).
I tracked the coins from foofight wallet which end up leading to a address with 1,000 of coins which never leave and this address is 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF I am sure 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF is tainted with the coins from 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb.
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May 11, 2013, 06:34:28 PM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
How can you prove the coins were really stolen instead of just voluntarily sent by you? It would be business suicide for any exchange who did what you asked! If the coins are found on exchange the scammer will be found and the funds will be taken from his account on the exchange. None of the exchange funds are the exchanges there all funds that other users deposited there. You still haven't answered my question. How can you prove the coins were really stolen and that you're not just trying to scam that other user who "owns" the exchange address where the coins were sent to? Your the same person who posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195317.0 remember this thread I was buying ripple and now I got SCAMMED To be more clear I sent funds to foofight at his address which is 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb I don't know for sure but I traced the coins to 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF which Is what I think is a exchange I don't know for sure if it is. The coins where scammed from me they are my coins and I was really scammed my self why would I want to scam someone else over such a small amount 1.37 coins. I just wan't to know if this is an exchange address or not. The reason why I want to know is because foofight sent or tried to mix his coins to there I know they came from foofight so I am thinking is a user of some exchange if thats the case his account should be frozen because he is a scammer and he took my coins.
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May 11, 2013, 06:40:55 PM |
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If my coins went to an exchange the user can be identified and their account can be frozen.
Now just to find out what exchange it is.
How can you prove the coins were really stolen instead of just voluntarily sent by you? It would be business suicide for any exchange who did what you asked! If the coins are found on exchange the scammer will be found and the funds will be taken from his account on the exchange. None of the exchange funds are the exchanges there all funds that other users deposited there. You still haven't answered my question. How can you prove the coins were really stolen and that you're not just trying to scam that other user who "owns" the exchange address where the coins were sent to? Your the same person who posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195317.0 remember this thread I was buying ripple and now I got SCAMMED That just tells me you often make bad decisions. now, forget that thread and let's just talk about this one here. I'm not going to ask you to prove that it wasn't you who clicked the send button when those coins left your wallet, cause you can't prove a negative, but please tells us: How are you going to prove to an exchange owner that those coins you talk on the OP were REALLY STOLEN?
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May 11, 2013, 07:00:49 PM |
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Oh, I understood that “is tainted with my coins 1FMkokNtu7oQyjwaYcM5wDQG9VUN4hUBMb” means that this address is yours. So here's what I think happened. The destination 14E4jGTvz1Jfbv4bzkDtieTzYA66x9J7GF address is a cold storage of a legitimate business. If it was scam money, there would be more people on the internet asking about this address, yet googling doesn't reveal anyone discussing it, besides that it's on various “bitcoin richest addresses” lists. There are two transactions between your money and that cold storage. First the preson you sent coins, sent them to 152NvAmevhFMreBJ5HcoREmUqd86eusLu7: https://blockchain.info/tx/2d40404eaf6fe5e5c30c0a0cef8f380a405b06f42c9660d987a093825e4394a7?show_adv=trueThen your 1.37 is distributed among other inputs to three addresses, one of which is that big cold storage: https://blockchain.info/address/152NvAmevhFMreBJ5HcoREmUqd86eusLu7The second transaction seems to be an internal exchange transaction distributing deposited money between hot and cold wallets. No exchange provides cold wallet address for direct deposits. So the first transaction is the only transaction he made with your money - and it's his deposit to the exchange. Here's when he made a slight mistake - look at the inputs and outputs under the first link above. He used one-time-usage address for the deal with you and wanted to sweep it later to the exchange to mix bitcoins. Had he sent 1.3695, everything would went fine. But he tried to send the full 1.37. When his wallet software asked him if he wants to include 0.0005 fee, because if not, the transaction might wait long for being confirmed, he clicked “yes”. But as there were no coins left in the from address, the wallet automatically included another his address to provide the fee. So you now have his two other addresses exposed in this transaction - one that sent 0.06543086 BTC input to provide the fee and another one that got 0.06493086 BTC change from the 0.0005 BTC fee. Your best luck might be in tracing these two addresses. It kinda looks that way based on how the address go to another and another and some branch off. Thats alot how MtGox seems to move the coins around.
I have contacted them but they said none of the address I inquired about belonged to them. I'm not surprised that exchanges don't claim ownership of cold storage address. It's like if you called your bank and asked details about their secure vault storage where they keep their reserves. Do you think they'd happily tell you where they keep them?
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