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June 18, 2017, 11:37:38 AM
Last edit: June 18, 2017, 11:48:40 AM by dennyd999
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I wonder myself what make ETC/LTC grow?

ETC is not in any development , not in any national program or bank. It have absolutely no usage and it is garbage that allready cost more than 20$


LTC the same garbage with copy-code from Bitcoin Core. And in fact FAKE Bitcoin clone copy.

And every ETC/LTC holder just bla-bla-bla-bla how undervalued this coins in. wtf?


But in fact can somebody explain me why they are growing?

I do not see any real usage except miners buy/sell orders. Also speculative daily traders.


Also the main thing why I am asking because people behind this coins do absolutely nothing.

ETC/LTC it is not own project. It is a fake copy of excisting in the market succesfull coins like BTC and ETH

There is no real developers behind both ETC/LTC.


Its completely insane to buy it.


Have anyone other opinion why should I buy it?


SHOW ME REAL USAGE.


SHOW ME OWN DEVELOPMENT OWN IDEAS OWN CREATIONS

I SHOW YOU CASH THAN
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June 18, 2017, 12:03:44 PM
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Litecoin volume is more than 1.5 billion.
How is that overvalued? Agree on ETC, though. Vitalic hold huge etc premine as well.
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June 18, 2017, 12:31:47 PM
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replace the words LTC and ETC and replace them literary with any other altcoin and post the same thing again. it will be 100% true. all of them are craps with little to no real usages.
people fool themselves that some random altcoin is good just because its price was high or it has a huge marketcap and then in a week or a month that the price was dumped real good they come back and ask "what is happening, why did the price go down 45% in one day"

but none of these means they are not profitable! i am not sure about ETC but LTC is on a good rise these days, it has already given me >65% profit

SHOW ME REAL USAGE.

there you go: https://litecoin.com/services
what more do you want!

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June 18, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
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I wonder myself what make ETC/LTC grow?

ETC is not in any development , not in any national program or bank. It have absolutely no usage and it is garbage that allready cost more than 20$


LTC the same garbage with copy-code from Bitcoin Core. And in fact FAKE Bitcoin clone copy.

And every ETC/LTC holder just bla-bla-bla-bla how undervalued this coins in. wtf?


But in fact can somebody explain me why they are growing?

I do not see any real usage except miners buy/sell orders. Also speculative daily traders.


Also the main thing why I am asking because people behind this coins do absolutely nothing.

ETC/LTC it is not own project. It is a fake copy of excisting in the market succesfull coins like BTC and ETH

There is no real developers behind both ETC/LTC.


Its completely insane to buy it.


Have anyone other opinion why should I buy it?


SHOW ME REAL USAGE.


SHOW ME OWN DEVELOPMENT OWN IDEAS OWN CREATIONS

I SHOW YOU CASH THAN

LTC actually has real usage that is similar to bitcoins real usage. In the minds of millions LTC is the only coin alternative to bitcoin that they can relate to, every other coin is too abstract for the average consumer. ETC is only worth something because it is an alternative to ETH.

I agree that ETC valuation is baffling. I see no reason anyone would ever choose ETC over ETH or EXP or any other ETH clone, makes zero sense. There is an ETF built on top of ETC so it has that, there is also the fact that a lot of original ETH holders have kept their ETC giving it value, but I don't see how it stays alive.

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June 18, 2017, 12:41:44 PM
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Not so over valued for LTC here's some of the good news driving up price.


Recent Stuff in 2017

Charlie Lee resigns from Coinbase to focus on Litecoin:

https://news.bitcoin.com/charlie-lee-resigns-from-coinbase-to-focus-on-litecoin/

Segwit adoption with 100 percent adoption and working great:

http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-foundation-reports-no-issues-since-segwit-activation/

Lightning network testing on main net:

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/18/bitfury-announces-first-successful-multi-hop-lightning-network-transaction/

https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockstream-sends-first-litecoin-lightning-microtransaction

http://www.coindesk.com/cross-blockchain-trades-lightning-gives-new-life-atomic-swaps/

2017 roadmap includes plans for lightning network, confidential transactions, atomic swaps and Mast:

https://litecoincore.org/

Recent exchanges now accepting (or implementing) LTC:

http://fortune.com/2017/05/03/coinbase-litecoin/

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/07/korea-bitcoin-exchange-bithumb-adds-support-litecoin/

http://www.livebitcoinnews.com/japanese-bitbank-exchange-enables-litecoin-trading-xrp-eth-support-imminent/

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/12/evolve-markets-adds-ltcusd-ltcbtc-concert-segwit-activation/

https://twitter.com/Bitstamp?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

...and others not mentioned.

Various businesses abandoning BTC and using LTC:

https://news.bitcoin.com/yours-network-litecoin-full-launch/

http://www.bitsonline.com/paralelni-polis-bitcoin-litecoin/

http://www.livebitcoinnews.com/litecoin-marketplace-coinsen-now-open-public/


There's more news coming too. Cryptocurrency is a fast moving space, hanging on to five year old opinions might not be the best option.
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June 18, 2017, 12:42:49 PM
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ETC & LTC each have a value proposition:
ETC = Ethereum with no backsies
LTC = Fast Bitcoin with easy updates

Doesn't mean they're good but they're not fake. (I'm not an investor in any of them)

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June 18, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
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Here's some of the reasons I think LTC is a worthwhile investment. The price increase is a result of other folks sharing similar views.

- Capable of four times as many transactions as Bitcoin in a ten minute period. Frankly if payment processors had adopted Litecoin in the past year current Bitcoin block discussions would be irrelevant (and likely the price of both coins higher). Anyone who has watched these discussions understands the immediate advantage of a network with larger transactional capability.
 
- Faster confirmation times. The only people who don't think this is important have never spent a single coin or they have patience that the average person does not possess.

- Blocks are not full.

- The faster block time of litecoin reduces the risk of double spending attacks.

- Anti-spam.

- Fast well established network. Current Hashrate is 7,153 GH/s. Since scrypt is memory intensive it is known to be approximately 1000 times slower hardware wise in comparison to SHA256. Fair comparison to the Bitcoin network requires multiplying that hashrate by 1000 (7,153TH/s). The fact is for most of Litecoins history the hashrate has been relatively high and secure. Those comparing it to the Bitcoin network without considering this 1k factor are either being disingenuous or just ignorant of the facts.

- Continuous development look here at number of releases in past few years: https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/releases

- Upcoming new features and active development look here for whats happening in 2017: https://litecoincore.org/

- Longevity. Many coins have temporarily eclipsed litecoin as they were marketed for the purpose of increasing the fiat accounts of a small group and emptying the accounts of new users. Unfortunately this has been detrimental to crypto-space in general.

- Great community. Definitely helps when consensus is needed.

- Unlike bitcoin, it is possible to make changes to litecoin.

- Fully supported by GoCoin a growing merchant payment processor used by thousands of merchants https://www.gocoin.com/ as well as other processors such as coinpayments, Asmoney, Alfacoins and Coinify.

- Liquidity. You can sell thousands and not crash the market. Maintains value. Look at the chart here indicating volume in the last 24 hours relative to other coins http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/litecoin/#markets in fact volume has remained high month after month for years.

- The speed, liquidity and value of Litecoin is useful to traders seeking arbitrage opportunities between exchanges.

- Now on coinbase and will be on bitstamp on Monday.

- Fair release. In a crypto world of premined and ICO releases many appreciate this fact. The code was released well before the Genesis block was mined and everyone knew when it would be going live; therefore, individuals could anticipate and get their miners and software ready.

- It's primary function is to be a cryptocurrency.

- Still mineable in many western countries even after electrical costs are factored in. Here in Canada my Titans still make a profit long after shutting my Neptunes down.

- Many low value coins can be merge mined with it increasing profits for miners.

- It will always maintain the integrity of the blockchain (no hard forks for special interests).

- Recently activated segwit on it's network with virtually 100 percent consensus.

- The possibility of utilizing side chains for smart contracts without the possibility of corrupting the original non-turing complete blockchain.

- Potential of using the Lightning Network as a method of increasing transactional capacity.

- Security.
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June 18, 2017, 12:53:09 PM
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I think they areboth overvalued because of the uncertainty surrounding Bitcoin scaling issue, when this is resolved I can see both prices correcting back to normal. This is a good time for both Ethereum and Litcoin bagholders
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June 18, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
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Ltc and ETC are fluctuating of price and today is time to sell positions for taking profit for long term profit
 i don't see anything about something new on litecoin and ETC
 it is like bubbles and speculation from the traders to getting profit from this situation
In my prediction it is just time to taking profit no more.
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June 18, 2017, 01:00:49 PM
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Yeaah thats is LTC holder.

again only bla-bla-bla-bla




- Recently activated segwit on it's network with virtually 100 percent consensus.

That means 100% centralisation by China and Jihan´s army miners.


- Continuous development look here at number of releases in past few years: https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/releases


All of development is no more than copy of Bitcoin Core with minor change to code.


- Capable of four times as many transactions as Bitcoin in a ten minute period. Frankly if payment processors had adopted Litecoin in the past year current Bitcoin block discussions would be irrelevant (and likely the price of both coins higher). Anyone who has watched these discussions understands the immediate advantage of a network with larger transactional capability.
 
- Faster confirmation times. The only people who don't think this is important have never spent a single coin or they have patience that the average person does not possess.

- Blocks are not full.

- The faster block time of litecoin reduces the risk of double spending attacks.

- Anti-spam.

- Fast well established network. Current Hashrate is 7,153 GH/s. Since scrypt is memory intensive it is known to be approximately 1000 times slower hardware wise in comparison to SHA256. Fair comparison to the Bitcoin network requires multiplying that hashrate by 1000 (7,153TH/s). The fact is for most of Litecoins history the hashrate has been relatively high and secure. Those comparing it to the Bitcoin network without considering this 1k factor are either being disingenuous or just ignorant of the facts.

- Continuous development look here at number of releases in past few years: https://github.com/litecoin-project/litecoin/releases

- Upcoming new features and active development look here for whats happening in 2017: https://litecoincore.org/

- Longevity. Many coins have temporarily eclipsed litecoin as they were marketed for the purpose of increasing the fiat accounts of a small group and emptying the accounts of new users. Unfortunately this has been detrimental to crypto-space in general.

- Great community. Definitely helps when consensus is needed.

- Unlike bitcoin, it is possible to make changes to litecoin.




DASH, ZCASH, MONERO,ETH,NEM

Have all the above and even more.

+++ This coins is OWN development not just copy-code from Bitcoin Core.


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June 18, 2017, 01:04:56 PM
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Ltc and ETC are fluctuating of price and today is time to sell positions for taking profit for long term profit
 i don't see anything about something new on litecoin and ETC
 it is like bubbles and speculation from the traders to getting profit from this situation
In my prediction it is just time to taking profit no more.

Exactly!


Do not be too greedy, take profit or cry latter
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June 18, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
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I wonder myself what make ETC/LTC grow?
Both are cryptocurrency and people are looking to invest in crypto, some investors think that Bitcoin is alredy too expensive to buy therefore they seek for other 'solid' choices.
And here goes Litecoin and Ethereum, somewhat stable coins but not as 'overpriced' as Bitcoin.

ETC is not in any development , not in any national program or bank. It have absolutely no usage and it is garbage that allready cost more than 20$
ETC is a relic of lost war. It is more like mascot or lucky charm for people who refused to give up.

LTC the same garbage with copy-code from Bitcoin Core. And in fact FAKE Bitcoin clone copy.
One can argue that Litecoin is upgraded bitcoin and that Litecoin's initial distribution is equally as good as Bitcoin's.
After all, Lee didn't mine thousands of Litecoins for himself before the project even started.
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June 18, 2017, 01:25:09 PM
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I think they areboth overvalued because of the uncertainty surrounding Bitcoin scaling issue, when this is resolved I can see both prices correcting back to normal. This is a good time for both Ethereum and Litcoin bagholders

Sound like we have a Bitcoin bagholder here  Smiley

You can still get on board this train brother
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June 18, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
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I think they areboth overvalued because of the uncertainty surrounding Bitcoin scaling issue, when this is resolved I can see both prices correcting back to normal. This is a good time for both Ethereum and Litcoin bagholders

Sound like we have a Bitcoin bagholder here  Smiley

You can still get on board this train brother


No way joining to coin wich is supported by BITMAIN and Jihan Woo himself!!!

SCAM!SCAM!SCAM!


DASH,ZCASH,MONERO, NEM is not connected to Jihans China miners army. Nor to Charlie or Bobby Lee which are China miners puppets. ´

DASH,ZCASH,MONERO are own developments! People work to make something new there not just copy-paste Bitcoin Core.


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June 18, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
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Dash is one of the biggest premine scams of all time and you are complaining about Litecoin?
It must be nice to magically create a couple hundred million dollars out of thin air...
So good job on Evan I guess. He got people to buy into his shitty scam coin and is now rich as fuck.

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June 18, 2017, 01:57:06 PM
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I wonder myself what make ETC/LTC grow?

ETC is not in any development , not in any national program or bank. It have absolutely no usage and it is garbage that allready cost more than 20$


LTC the same garbage with copy-code from Bitcoin Core. And in fact FAKE Bitcoin clone copy.

And every ETC/LTC holder just bla-bla-bla-bla how undervalued this coins in. wtf?


But in fact can somebody explain me why they are growing?

I do not see any real usage except miners buy/sell orders. Also speculative daily traders.


Also the main thing why I am asking because people behind this coins do absolutely nothing.

ETC/LTC it is not own project. It is a fake copy of excisting in the market succesfull coins like BTC and ETH

There is no real developers behind both ETC/LTC.


Its completely insane to buy it.


Have anyone other opinion why should I buy it?


SHOW ME REAL USAGE.


SHOW ME OWN DEVELOPMENT OWN IDEAS OWN CREATIONS

I SHOW YOU CASH THAN

Another noob trying to act like he knows what he's talking about lol
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June 18, 2017, 02:11:02 PM
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I do not think ETH is overvalued. More and more ICO projects accept ETH as token payment and mostof these ETH coins are hold for a long time. Then the ETH coins are less, the price will get higher.
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June 18, 2017, 03:53:10 PM
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I think they areboth overvalued because of the uncertainty surrounding Bitcoin scaling issue, when this is resolved I can see both prices correcting back to normal. This is a good time for both Ethereum and Litcoin bagholders

Sound like we have a Bitcoin bagholder here  Smiley
You can still get on board this train brother

Bitcoin bagholder?? People who bought bitcoins at any price are probably sitting on profits now! I wouldn't call them bagholders.
Of course, the only thing they can regret is missing the altcoin train. That train has probably left the station now.


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June 18, 2017, 03:56:32 PM
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I SHOW YOU CASH THAN


how about you keep your cash and i keep my litecoin .....deal  Kiss
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June 18, 2017, 04:10:49 PM
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I think they areboth overvalued because of the uncertainty surrounding Bitcoin scaling issue, when this is resolved I can see both prices correcting back to normal. This is a good time for both Ethereum and Litcoin bagholders

Sound like we have a Bitcoin bagholder here  Smiley

You can still get on board this train brother

lol bitcoin bagholder sounds so awkward, there isn't such thing as bagholder of bitcoin, only altcoin can be worthless, i do agree that ETH is too high at the moment in price, but litecoin was way higher in the past it's not overvalued at all , check chart history to confirm this

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