For traders (no matter if you are beginner, advanced or lazy just wanting profit

[trader1b]

Hi, any beginning trader here? I am a professional trader, fulltime since 7 years. I see many people getting into bitcoin, many also want to trade or increase their bitcoins. This can be overwhelming for a beginner, skills can not be acquired overnight. If you also have a dayjob it becomes near impossible to compete or perform at your best. No matter what your situation, I will guide you the right direction depending on your needs. I can answer any question. I will always be there to help you with anything. https://i.imgur.com/JAqABKk.jpg
Additionally, if you are a super lazy guy or on holiday, I will share my trades with you. For free. You have the option to automatically copy the trades with any amount. You keep the profits yourself.


post a message if anyone is interested. Price is 0.25 bitcoin. I am only selling this to one person.


Offer is Best for:

• Trader who wants a stronger edge + bias & macro (longer term view). confluence,
• or Person who just wants to copy my trades, automated and easy with bitcoin (you can define trade size or risk per trade yourself)  
• and or person who is generally interested in trading and wants an experienced opinion for their questions  

If you use telegram we can also talk there. What would make me happy is if the buyer is a person who is already a trader, or a person who wants his bitcoin stack to grow big. I don't like people who can't take a tiny risk, are wimps, make excuses, doubt my skills or intentions. I can start working with you right away, markets are already open for this week

Interested? Send me a pm

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[ktabb]

New account, no proof of abilities, no reason to be doing this... probably a scam and/or a bad trader. Definitely do not pay this guy.

[trader1b]

New account, no proof of abilities, no reason to be doing this... probably a scam and/or a bad trader. Definitely do not pay this guy.

I understand your concerns, for that reason i added the performance chart. You can see it in the post above (the link)

[FlamingFingers]

Being new to bitcointalk doesn't mean you are new to crypto currencies trading, we get that. But the previously mentioned 'performance chart' doesn't show anything – a cropped image of whatever that chart is doesn't prove that it belongs to you, nor does it show any proof about anything.

[ktabb]

New account, no proof of abilities, no reason to be doing this... probably a scam and/or a bad trader. Definitely do not pay this guy.

I understand your concerns, for that reason i added the performance chart. You can see it in the post above (the link)

The chart doesn't even show the x axis. It's not proof of anything. Anyone can post an image of a chart that shows large returns.

Show me a detailed chart with your returns versus the crypto market as a whole, and post the actual trades you have made. Then it will more credible, although that still isn't enough proof to warrant anybody paying you .25 btc.

[trader1b]

Guess I have to clarify: The returns i showed are not from crypto trading.

There is no way for me to further proof it over the internet. You can always say it's fake. That is the risk the buyer has to take. Also I don't do crypto currencies trading, but FX. However I can do crypto as well.

The x axis was 1,5 years roughly

[ktabb]

Guess I have to clarify: The returns i showed are not from crypto trading.

There is no way for me to further proof it over the internet. You can always say it's fake. That is the risk the buyer has to take. Also I don't do crypto currencies trading, but FX. However I can do crypto as well.

The x axis was 1,5 years roughly

If you profited by ~600% in the last 1.5 years then you are basically in line with the crypto market. You could have just bought bitcoin and held, and you would have made the same profit that you are showing here. If people are going to pay you, you need to prove that you can consistently outperform the market. If you are not going to make an effort to do that then you should not be asking people for money. It is not only misleading but immoral.

Furthermore, if you actually cannot consistently outperform the market then you are not qualified to give out financial advice for money. Also unless you are a CFA then this is illegal in the US anyway. You can't accept money for financial advice unless you are certified.

[trader1b]

I am not from the US, and what makes you think your growth restricting rules apply to the whole world? Take a look at this map, hopefully helps your inflated worldview: https://i.imgur.com/RfAMZEL.png

[tobi4255]

May i suggest you instead open a Q&A thread?

As people mention, trust is a big issue here on the forum. If you offer a free service, giving people short, concise advice then readers can see you actually know what you are talking about, or that you do not, if that is the case.

From there, you should be able to find someone willing to pay for a personal advisor.

I actually have been looking for someone to point me in the direction of good short-term TA's.

Any suggestions where to look/what to search?

[ktabb]

I am not from the US, and what makes you think your growth restricting rules apply to the whole world? Take a look at this map, hopefully helps your inflated worldview: https://i.imgur.com/RfAMZEL.png

What growth restricting rules? What are you talking about? I'm saying that you are likely to lose money for whoever is foolish enough to pay you, and even more likely to underperform with their money versus what they could do with a real professional.

Even if you are not from the US there is a good chance that your country has a similar law. If they don't, then that is a problem with your country because everyone should have that law. Also you just shouldn't give out financial advice when you are not qualified to do so. You're going to harm other people and yourself.

[trader1b]

I am not from the US, and what makes you think your growth restricting rules apply to the whole world? Take a look at this map, hopefully helps your inflated worldview: https://i.imgur.com/RfAMZEL.png

What growth restricting rules? What are you talking about? I'm saying that you are likely to lose money for whoever is foolish enough to pay you, and even more likely to underperform with their money versus what they could do with a real professional.

I'm not here to discuss. I value my time and want to value the reader's time as well. Nobody forces you to take a risk. Risk in markets, any market, can never be fully quantified, it is not possible, because anything could happen in the future. Maybe you are searching for the impossible. People like ktabb can continue trusting their "real professional" of choice (maybe the person they see on their tv), I have no problem with that.

[trader1b]

Take a look at the first post, updated it

to see what you get, who this is for

[erikalui]

0.25 for trading signals? There are many professional traders who help users for a price as low as $25 and they too have years of experience and give a guaranteed amount of profit. I had been following the signals of one such trader earlier and he had offered his service for free. Do you offer alerts or only advise?

PS:Your thread should be in the Services section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

[john2231]

0.25 for trading signals? There are many professional traders who help users for a price as low as $25 and they too have years of experience and give a guaranteed amount of profit. I had been following the signals of one such trader earlier and he had offered his service for free. Do you offer alerts or only advise?

PS:Your thread should be in the Services section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

Its too much but if its 0.25 cents its really pretty cheap.. and i think there are some group that are giving signals for free i have a group in skype that are giving free signals. so i think its not worth to get your service for 0.25 btc except if its 0.25 every signal..

[tigerwood0432]

if you can give free signals for a short period , you will gain trust and people will use your services and pay for it

[Golftech]

if you can give free signals for a short period , you will gain trust and people will use your services and pay for it

try building your reputation before asking for that huge amount OP, like what other said there's a lots of traders who already got their name's being followed and here inside the forum reputation / trust is more than the amount that you are asking, so let see if you will going to provide some free call that we can check and follow.

[trader1b]

My service is unique and nobody can offer similar. The price is very low for the value you get. The right person knows this and will contact me.
I have no problem with it if you don't see the value.

You can start copying signals right away after you buy, with any amount. Want to add me on telegram? send me a message

[btct_user]

i have never understood ppl asking high price for teaching you unique and easy money earning strategy
assuming i have such strategy, why wouldn't i just invest my way to billions enjoying compound interest?
and being a billionaire, why would i need taking from ppl these small dimes
i can see some value in exposing to community great trading skills for building solid reputation.
having such a reputation (say 80%+ predictions right) and host of followers, it becomes possible to manipulate market (buy cheap, pump using rep, sell high) (hehe setting ethics aside)

[trader1b]

I made 85 times my investment last months, and not in crypto. Crypto would be even easier..... Somebody interested now, knowing that?

0.25 btc is not even a price lol- I'm giving away money for free to 1 person basically lol



This reminds me of something..... People do not buy, even if you say and demonstrate that you are the best. People always need a emotional connection. Is that true?

Somebody knows and can teach me on that topic? I find it interesting, hahaha. Thanks!!

[tobi4255]

I made 85 times my investment last months, and not in crypto. Crypto would be even easier..... Somebody interested now, knowing that?

0.25 btc is not even a price lol- I'm giving away money for free to 1 person basically lol



This reminds me of something..... People do not buy, even if you say and demonstrate that you are the best. People always need a emotional connection. Is that true?

Somebody knows and can teach me on that topic? I find it interesting, hahaha. Thanks!!

I turned a dollar into 5 billion using my own signals, best of the best. Just pay me 1 bitcoin, and i let you re-sell my perfect method.

If you need proof of my performance, I made 1000 trades in the last hour netting 700% returns.

Cheers..

[BitcoinHodler]

trust is earned not given.

if you want anyone to even take you seriously you need to first prove what you claim. simply saying i am such and such and i did such and such is empty words.
feel free to start a new topic, share some of the knowledge you claim to have acquired in 7 years, share some future trades and if you were any good, you will find people willing to pay. otherwise you are a random guy on the internet making empty claims because we don't know you!

[ktabb]

I made 85 times my investment last months, and not in crypto. Crypto would be even easier..... Somebody interested now, knowing that?

0.25 btc is not even a price lol- I'm giving away money for free to 1 person basically lol



This reminds me of something..... People do not buy, even if you say and demonstrate that you are the best. People always need a emotional connection. Is that true?

Somebody knows and can teach me on that topic? I find it interesting, hahaha. Thanks!!

I turned a dollar into 5 billion using my own signals, best of the best. Just pay me 1 bitcoin, and i let you re-sell my perfect method.

If you need proof of my performance, I made 1000 trades in the last hour netting 700% returns.

Cheers..

Lol the funny part is that your claim is really no more ridiculous or outlandish than his claim, and he is actually serious.

[trader1b]

Lol guys, you don't believe me. Fine i don't care


I could do it for free, but I don't. The 0.25 would be used just for you, as a base to provide the signals with, for yourself to follow, I don't care how much you follow with, if you are unsure you could just watch a few days and remove your doubts.


Just handing everything over to an ungrateful stranger would be stupid, wouldn't it? And with no skin in the game, you would walk away at the first 5% loss, thinking it does not work, because why would it, it was free

[TheOATeam]

This thread is funny. Can somebody point me in the direction to finding real (free or paid) trading advice / signals? Currently using a telegram app for some notifications but that's it. Thank you!

[trader1b]

Lol. You are joking OATeam?   

Maybe, just maybe,  you don't need direction because you already arrived at the destination?? hmmm

[Zadicar]

My service is unique and nobody can offer similar. The price is very low for the value you get. The right person knows this and will contact me.
I have no problem with it if you don't see the value.

You can start copying signals right away after you buy, with any amount. Want to add me on telegram? send me a message

You dont have any plans on giving the public a free signal? So that we can able to testify out on how good you are not just telling and asking for a partner or buyer for the amount of 0.25, we do know trading doesnt have any assurance but somehow can be profitable if you are good at it. Checking on the price it seems too high compared on those other people who offer the same service.

[trader1b]

pm me your telegram username and I could give you some signals...

Remember I only want to do this for one person, who is seriously interested

[trader1b]

First one to contact me with their telegram username i will help this week, thursday and friday. forex signals and any question you may have...

[John Wick]

Save a prayer for having a good luck and chance. I'm saying this because in last 1-2 month period of time, you would get much profit by only randomly buying altcoins. It was a heavy pump period and everyone earned something.

[trader1b]

Save a prayer for having a good luck and chance. I'm saying this because in last 1-2 month period of time, you would get much profit by only randomly buying altcoins. It was a heavy pump period and everyone earned something.

I agree that you could have gained much by just holding some altcoin. But this is not for crypto, but forex. You don't just get lucky like that in forex


So far nobody is interested or has contacted me. Quite amazing to be honest.

Edit: If nobody is interested until tomorrow, I will leave this forum for good. Can't be bothered with this anymore lol. Atleast I tried to help - good karma for me 

[Qunenin]

How precisely do you think that you are going to try to change the thinking of the people that built the system that you are looking at?  So, you found BTC and your best efforts at making a buck is to sell non-existent advice that you have not used in the first place? 

[BitcoinsGreat]

OATeam did misstate their post, they should not have said that the thread is funny, it is you that are funny.  If you knew so much about the "signals", which we track via software, 24 hours a day, and have been for more than three years, then we would have only seen one post from you, announcing that you have established a 51% control of the alt world through trading and now you are king and we should bow.

[JohnBitCo]

OATeam did misstate their post, they should not have said that the thread is funny, it is you that are funny.  If you knew so much about the "signals", which we track via software, 24 hours a day, and have been for more than three years, then we would have only seen one post from you, announcing that you have established a 51% control of the alt world through trading and now you are king and we should bow.

I think we will go with bowing out of looking at your threads and go back to making money, but thanks for the laughs.

[flower1024]

trust is earned not given.

if you want anyone to even take you seriously you need to first prove what you claim. simply saying i am such and such and i did such and such is empty words.
feel free to start a new topic, share some of the knowledge you claim to have acquired in 7 years, share some future trades and if you were any good, you will find people willing to pay. otherwise you are a random guy on the internet making empty claims because we don't know you!

Nowadays if the proof is there also people will not believe any matter easily in that without having proof, you are offering your ideas means how can you think that people will trust you. Here first you want to gain confidence after that people believe you. So share some trades after that if you are good people only contact you.

[trader1b]

I gave you guys the chance. 0 private message received. You were probably too lazy to read. Good luck, I'm out

[ktabb]

I gave you guys the chance. 0 private message received. You were probably too lazy to read. Good luck, I'm out

Good, because I'm sure that in reality you lose much more money than you gain, because nobody falls for your scams like this one. And yes, your offer here is 100% the definition of a scam... promising return on investment that will never happen. you are a scammer.

[asonganyi]

i respect your person. you are a self made professor. you come here with no proff and expect people to start giving you coins for a crown that you yourself put on your head..
i advice you start somewhere for free after that you can go ahead to levi prices
i also advive to stay around here for a little longer so that you get to know how things work.

[asonganyi]

This thread is funny. Can somebody point me in the direction to finding real (free or paid) trading advice / signals? Currently using a telegram app for some notifications but that's it. Thank you!

i do not know if this is the app you are talking about but i use this software https://cryptoping.tech/?i=34575 .. it is a decentralized trading bot.. it still at it beta stage but it give signals every day
you should try ir out

[gabmen]

This thread is funny. Can somebody point me in the direction to finding real (free or paid) trading advice / signals? Currently using a telegram app for some notifications but that's it. Thank you!

i do not know if this is the app you are talking about but i use this software https://cryptoping.tech/?i=34575 .. it is a decentralized trading bot.. it still at it beta stage but it give signals every day
you should try ir out

Yeah a couple of these telegram groups really can give you tips that can reap profits. You just have to be quick because miss even a minute and there's a big chance you also lose out on the opportunity to ride their pumps.

[milewilda]

This thread is funny. Can somebody point me in the direction to finding real (free or paid) trading advice / signals? Currently using a telegram app for some notifications but that's it. Thank you!

i do not know if this is the app you are talking about but i use this software https://cryptoping.tech/?i=34575 .. it is a decentralized trading bot.. it still at it beta stage but it give signals every day
you should try ir out

Yeah a couple of these telegram groups really can give you tips that can reap profits. You just have to be quick because miss even a minute and there's a big chance you also lose out on the opportunity to ride their pumps.

This is true, ive experienced to join those groups but i dont really have the timing when they do give signals which i decide to leave later on. Reaping profits would be possible and i would rather to choose free group signals than on a paid one.Sad for OP hes out already and he didnt get any single message from people on this forum which means we dont really care at all.