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June 18, 2017, 12:58:34 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2017, 08:14:27 PM by trader1b
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Hi, any beginning trader here? I am a professional trader, fulltime since 7 years. I see many people getting into bitcoin, many also want to trade or increase their bitcoins. This can be overwhelming for a beginner, skills can not be acquired overnight. If you also have a dayjob it becomes near impossible to compete or perform at your best. No matter what your situation, I will guide you the right direction depending on your needs. I can answer any question. I will always be there to help you with anything. https://i.imgur.com/JAqABKk.jpg
Additionally, if you are a super lazy guy or on holiday, I will share my trades with you. For free. You have the option to automatically copy the trades with any amount. You keep the profits yourself.


post a message if anyone is interested. Price is 0.25 bitcoin. I am only selling this to one person.


Offer is Best for:

  • Trader who wants a stronger edge + bias & macro (longer term view). confluence,
  • or Person who just wants to copy my trades, automated and easy with bitcoin (you can define trade size or risk per trade yourself)  
  • and or person who is generally interested in trading and wants an experienced opinion for their questions  



If you use telegram we can also talk there. What would make me happy is if the buyer is a person who is already a trader, or a person who wants his bitcoin stack to grow big. I don't like people who can't take a tiny risk, are wimps, make excuses, doubt my skills or intentions. I can start working with you right away, markets are already open for this week

Interested? Send me a pm
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June 18, 2017, 01:06:20 PM
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New account, no proof of abilities, no reason to be doing this... probably a scam and/or a bad trader. Definitely do not pay this guy.

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June 18, 2017, 01:09:10 PM
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New account, no proof of abilities, no reason to be doing this... probably a scam and/or a bad trader. Definitely do not pay this guy.
I understand your concerns, for that reason i added the performance chart. You can see it in the post above (the link)
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June 18, 2017, 01:16:45 PM
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Being new to bitcointalk doesn't mean you are new to crypto currencies trading, we get that. But the previously mentioned 'performance chart' doesn't show anything – a cropped image of whatever that chart is doesn't prove that it belongs to you, nor does it show any proof about anything.

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June 18, 2017, 01:28:25 PM
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New account, no proof of abilities, no reason to be doing this... probably a scam and/or a bad trader. Definitely do not pay this guy.
I understand your concerns, for that reason i added the performance chart. You can see it in the post above (the link)

The chart doesn't even show the x axis. It's not proof of anything. Anyone can post an image of a chart that shows large returns.

Show me a detailed chart with your returns versus the crypto market as a whole, and post the actual trades you have made. Then it will more credible, although that still isn't enough proof to warrant anybody paying you .25 btc.

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June 18, 2017, 01:36:58 PM
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Guess I have to clarify: The returns i showed are not from crypto trading.

There is no way for me to further proof it over the internet. You can always say it's fake. That is the risk the buyer has to take. Also I don't do crypto currencies trading, but FX. However I can do crypto as well.

The x axis was 1,5 years roughly
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June 18, 2017, 01:49:05 PM
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Guess I have to clarify: The returns i showed are not from crypto trading.

There is no way for me to further proof it over the internet. You can always say it's fake. That is the risk the buyer has to take. Also I don't do crypto currencies trading, but FX. However I can do crypto as well.

The x axis was 1,5 years roughly

If you profited by ~600% in the last 1.5 years then you are basically in line with the crypto market. You could have just bought bitcoin and held, and you would have made the same profit that you are showing here. If people are going to pay you, you need to prove that you can consistently outperform the market. If you are not going to make an effort to do that then you should not be asking people for money. It is not only misleading but immoral.

Furthermore, if you actually cannot consistently outperform the market then you are not qualified to give out financial advice for money. Also unless you are a CFA then this is illegal in the US anyway. You can't accept money for financial advice unless you are certified.

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June 18, 2017, 02:01:30 PM
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I am not from the US, and what makes you think your growth restricting rules apply to the whole world? Take a look at this map, hopefully helps your inflated worldview: https://i.imgur.com/RfAMZEL.png
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June 18, 2017, 02:11:07 PM
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May i suggest you instead open a Q&A thread?

As people mention, trust is a big issue here on the forum. If you offer a free service, giving people short, concise advice then readers can see you actually know what you are talking about, or that you do not, if that is the case.

From there, you should be able to find someone willing to pay for a personal advisor.

I actually have been looking for someone to point me in the direction of good short-term TA's.

Any suggestions where to look/what to search? Smiley


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June 18, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
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I am not from the US, and what makes you think your growth restricting rules apply to the whole world? Take a look at this map, hopefully helps your inflated worldview: https://i.imgur.com/RfAMZEL.png

What growth restricting rules? What are you talking about? I'm saying that you are likely to lose money for whoever is foolish enough to pay you, and even more likely to underperform with their money versus what they could do with a real professional.

Even if you are not from the US there is a good chance that your country has a similar law. If they don't, then that is a problem with your country because everyone should have that law. Also you just shouldn't give out financial advice when you are not qualified to do so. You're going to harm other people and yourself.

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June 18, 2017, 02:30:12 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2017, 02:42:21 PM by trader1b
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I am not from the US, and what makes you think your growth restricting rules apply to the whole world? Take a look at this map, hopefully helps your inflated worldview: https://i.imgur.com/RfAMZEL.png

What growth restricting rules? What are you talking about? I'm saying that you are likely to lose money for whoever is foolish enough to pay you, and even more likely to underperform with their money versus what they could do with a real professional.

I'm not here to discuss. I value my time and want to value the reader's time as well. Nobody forces you to take a risk. Risk in markets, any market, can never be fully quantified, it is not possible, because anything could happen in the future. Maybe you are searching for the impossible. People like ktabb can continue trusting their "real professional" of choice (maybe the person they see on their tv), I have no problem with that.
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June 18, 2017, 08:06:25 PM
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Take a look at the first post, updated it

to see what you get, who this is for
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June 18, 2017, 08:46:19 PM
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0.25 for trading signals? There are many professional traders who help users for a price as low as $25 and they too have years of experience and give a guaranteed amount of profit. I had been following the signals of one such trader earlier and he had offered his service for free. Do you offer alerts or only advise?

PS:Your thread should be in the Services section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

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June 18, 2017, 10:26:12 PM
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0.25 for trading signals? There are many professional traders who help users for a price as low as $25 and they too have years of experience and give a guaranteed amount of profit. I had been following the signals of one such trader earlier and he had offered his service for free. Do you offer alerts or only advise?

PS:Your thread should be in the Services section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
Its too much but if its 0.25 cents its really pretty cheap.. and i think there are some group that are giving signals for free i have a group in skype that are giving free signals. so i think its not worth to get your service for 0.25 btc except if its 0.25 every signal..
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June 18, 2017, 10:37:46 PM
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if you can give free signals for a short period , you will gain trust and people will use your services and pay for it


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June 18, 2017, 10:49:41 PM
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if you can give free signals for a short period , you will gain trust and people will use your services and pay for it
try building your reputation before asking for that huge amount OP, like what other said there's a lots of traders who already got their name's being followed and here inside the forum reputation / trust is more than the amount that you are asking, so let see if you will going to provide some free call that we can check and follow.
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June 19, 2017, 04:48:50 PM
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My service is unique and nobody can offer similar. The price is very low for the value you get. The right person knows this and will contact me.
I have no problem with it if you don't see the value.


You can start copying signals right away after you buy, with any amount. Want to add me on telegram? send me a message
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June 19, 2017, 05:25:38 PM
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i have never understood ppl asking high price for teaching you unique and easy money earning strategy
assuming i have such strategy, why wouldn't i just invest my way to billions enjoying compound interest?
and being a billionaire, why would i need taking from ppl these small dimes
i can see some value in exposing to community great trading skills for building solid reputation.
having such a reputation (say 80%+ predictions right) and host of followers, it becomes possible to manipulate market (buy cheap, pump using rep, sell high) (hehe setting ethics aside)
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June 20, 2017, 05:54:00 PM
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I made 85 times my investment last months, and not in crypto. Crypto would be even easier..... Somebody interested now, knowing that?

0.25 btc is not even a price lol- I'm giving away money for free to 1 person basically lol



This reminds me of something..... People do not buy, even if you say and demonstrate that you are the best. People always need a emotional connection. Is that true?Huh

Somebody knows and can teach me on that topic? I find it interesting, hahaha. Thanks!!
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June 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
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I made 85 times my investment last months, and not in crypto. Crypto would be even easier..... Somebody interested now, knowing that?

0.25 btc is not even a price lol- I'm giving away money for free to 1 person basically lol



This reminds me of something..... People do not buy, even if you say and demonstrate that you are the best. People always need a emotional connection. Is that true?Huh

Somebody knows and can teach me on that topic? I find it interesting, hahaha. Thanks!!
I turned a dollar into 5 billion using my own signals, best of the best. Just pay me 1 bitcoin, and i let you re-sell my perfect method.

If you need proof of my performance, I made 1000 trades in the last hour netting 700% returns.

Cheers.. Smiley

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