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BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 19, 2017, 08:22:40 AM
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纽约共识签署以后,社区内都在讨论具体实施措施,也已经成功制定出纽约共识实施的具体计划:7月21日开始运行SegWit2x,8月中旬将会激活隔离验证,11月中旬进行2M硬分叉扩容。一切都是那么的顺顺利利,但是有极少数的比特币开发者开始积极的鼓吹BIP148(用户激活软分叉),试图阻止纽约共识的顺利实施。
BIP148是一种典型的UASF(用户激活软分叉),它鼓励用户将比特币矿工强行推到隔离见证的版本。简单的理解就是BIP148试图推动隔离见证在未获得足够支持率的情况下完成激活。其中一些节点用户自去年11月以来就一直在运行他们的隔离见证版本的比特币软件。据统计,目前超过80%的比特币节点已经为激活隔离见证(SegWit)做好了准备。但这些算力支持的是纽约共识,期待以SegWit2x的方式激活隔离验证,这种方案已经获得社区广泛的支持,而少数比特币开发者希望在SegWit2x激活隔离验证之前,利用BIP148这种方式激活隔离验证,以达到阻止纽约共识实施的目的。
用户激活软分叉并不是什么新鲜的事物,早在今年在3月份,匿名贡献者shaolinfry把用户激活软分叉发布到了比特币开发者邮件列表上,这种方式主要是为了解决比特币扩容之争的僵局,目的是绕过矿工,但当时并没有获得社区太多的响应。Core开发组提出的隔离见证扩容方案遭社区反对后,一部分人把注意力转向莱特币。莱特币创始人李启威首次在社区鼓吹通过用户激活软分叉(UASF)的方式激活隔离验证,但是最终以失败而告终。莱特币通过网络投票和社区圆桌会议实现了隔离验证。用户激活软分叉渐渐地被人们所遗忘。
不过,自纽约共识签署以后,一些不甘心权利丧失的开发者开始鼓吹BIP148(用户激活软分叉),在8月1日,以用户激活软分叉的方式激活隔离验证。支持者甚至把8月1日鼓吹为“比特币独立日”,而根据纽约共识实施时间表,激活隔离验证的时间在8月中旬,这很明显就是在阻止纽约共识的实施。有证据表明,core开发组对用户激活软分叉是持支持态度的,被质疑是推进BIP148方案的幕后推手。
用户激活软分叉是一个不完善的方案,一套完整靠谱的代码都没有,在社区内也没有获得广泛的共识,提到的“经济多数”也没有一个具体的衡量标准,也没有得到全球一些知名的交易平台、钱包服务商的支持。但是,BIP148支持者打出的“比特币独立日”、“经济大多数”“自由”“用户决策”等宣传语是具有非常大的煽动性和欺骗性的,一些不明真相的小白听起来感觉很有道理,是一个不错的方案,很容易就会上当受骗,导致小白的比特币丢失。8月1日,由于缺少算力的支持BIP148的激活也将会分裂比特币区块链,把比特币分裂为148币和比特币。而BIP148的支持者也暗示,不怕比特币分裂。
与此同时,BIP148也是存在一些致命弱点的,全网算力支持较少,出块速度慢,比特币交易堵塞会变得非常严重;缺乏重放保护措施,容易被攻击,丢币在所难免;对纽约共识的实施产生威胁,与主流比特币社区意见为敌;不具有广泛的共识,支持率低,面临更大的分叉风险;8月1日,社区所有比特币交易所也需要关闭充值提现功能,影响平台的正常运营。
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 19, 2017, 08:33:53 AM
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UASF已经是被社区遗忘的东西还把拖出来鞭尸,core也没招了吧
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 19, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
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core内部就没有达成一致,还没有分裂比特币,自己就先分裂了。
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 20, 2017, 07:28:26 AM
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BIP148现在支持率这么低,不知道能不能执行。
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 21, 2017, 09:00:24 AM
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BIP148是比特币最大的威胁,廖翔是币圈最大的臭狗屎。
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 23, 2017, 07:56:54 AM
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比特币从原来的扩容之争已经演变成分裂之争了。
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 24, 2017, 11:19:49 AM
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但愿比特币能够听过这一关
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 24, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
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Quote from: qq767178175 on June 24, 2017, 11:19:49 AM
但愿比特币能够听过这一关
关关难过关关过。不用担心。
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Re: BIP148“独立日”将构成比特币最大的威胁
June 24, 2017, 05:08:26 PM
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发展不可能是一帆风顺的,很多币不是没有问题,只不是是他们根本还没有发展到那个阶段,所以不应该有过多担心
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