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July 19, 2017, 11:25:07 AM
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The project seems interesting. I will joined to signature and blog/media compaign. Good luck
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July 19, 2017, 12:05:53 PM
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I correctly understood that the ICO will be postponed to August 14 or is it not true?


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July 19, 2017, 01:08:27 PM
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ICO delay two weeks does not matter, it is important that the funds are safe.

I agree with you, regarding current hacking attacks and coindash hack, it is important to make sure everything is ok before ico.
Yeah coindash gives us a lesson, that we must prepare everything well Smiley

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July 19, 2017, 01:40:31 PM
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ICO delay two weeks does not matter, it is important that the funds are safe.

I agree with you, regarding current hacking attacks and coindash hack, it is important to make sure everything is ok before ico.
Yeah coindash gives us a lesson, that we must prepare everything well Smiley

BTW, the ICO website should be safe enough that should not be hacked by the hackers. The ICO eth address should be kept safely.


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July 19, 2017, 03:05:51 PM
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So no delay. August 14 is already enough time to raise funds. I see Spectiv ICO will only last 3 days tops.

Everyone, please wait for our official announcement which will come either tomorrow or Thursday! It will detail what we are working on right now and how it affects the crowdsale. Trust us though, you will be excited and happy about it!
Quick response and they always give good news, things like this will very quickly attract the attention of investors, everything will run smoothly
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July 19, 2017, 03:36:13 PM
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So no delay. August 14 is already enough time to raise funds. I see Spectiv ICO will only last 3 days tops.

Everyone, please wait for our official announcement which will come either tomorrow or Thursday! It will detail what we are working on right now and how it affects the crowdsale. Trust us though, you will be excited and happy about it!
Quick response and they always give good news, things like this will very quickly attract the attention of investors, everything will run smoothly

This is something very good and hopefully ICO will run successfully because I see many people who are interested in this project

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July 19, 2017, 10:37:44 PM
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There are projects that do not work so well on the market and who are not sure who is behind it. I do not think this project has a chance of failing. Ico will be a success if it is delayed

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July 20, 2017, 01:17:44 AM
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ICO delay two weeks does not matter, it is important that the funds are safe.

I agree with you, regarding current hacking attacks and coindash hack, it is important to make sure everything is ok before ico.
Yeah coindash gives us a lesson, that we must prepare everything well Smiley

BTW, the ICO website should be safe enough that should not be hacked by the hackers. The ICO eth address should be kept safely.

yes i aggre with you, the project secures all assets primarily investor assets so that it can not be stolen.
I hope this ICO has set the strategy and has secured eth safe assets from hackers.   Smiley
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The use of VR technologies based on blockchain technology is unlimited, such technologies can be used not only in business, entertainment, but also in medicine and science, the industries in which VR can be used are unlimited.

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July 20, 2017, 05:19:34 AM
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I correctly understood that the ICO will be postponed to August 14 or is it not true?

This information has been announced in the main pages please check back
The crowdsale will open on 08/14/2017 at 2:00PM (GMT -5) and will run through 09/04/17.

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I joined signature campaign this project, I believe with idea use VR and Blockchain can make Spectiv become to hot ICOs in August - September.
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Hello dev.
Our account rose to become member. Can we change our signature campaign member code?
And now I have switched my signature code into a member.
You can post it on bounty thread not here in the ann thread or you can directly pm the bounty manager.

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July 20, 2017, 06:38:06 AM
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Just want to update to make sure you all know that we are working on a lot behind the scenes - Further development, potential partnerships, marketing, legal organization, and more! We are excited about Spectiv and look forward to having you test our initial platform.

Thanks for keeping us up to date. Do you have an estimated time for initial platform launch to test?

We will be able to answering this shortly, we are meeting with our recently hired platform developer tomorrow. We hope to have a version of the platform that users can experience within 30 days. This will likely be more of an interactive demo, and not the full alpha.

If your team can pull this off before the ICO start than trust me your ICO is going to be a massive success.

OK. As an early adopter of VR, this interests me and I've been reading through this thread (although WAY too much of it is about bounties and worries about prices/Aug 1st etc. Not enough about the actual project itself!). I quoted this post as some sort of beta I can look at pre-ICO would be a "must have" for me.

Background: I work in IT. Have done for 20+ years. Fair amount of development experience. Lots of non-functional testing experience. Mainly load/performance/network testing and test automation. Have been involved with/using VR since Oculus DK1 stage. Currently own a Vive. Had a launch version Oculus as well, but sold that as I prefer Vive. Also have a phone adapter type headset (a BoboVR - one of the better ones on the market).

So, how do think this weighs up as an ICO?

Sorry, but I have HUGE doubts.  Undecided

Taking it mainstream? OK. Fine. Already trying to do that are: Steam, Oculus (backed by Facebook), Samsung, Sony, YouTube, Google etc etc. There are already a LOT of big players pushing this. What makes me think an unknown crypto can do a better job? Nothing.

Platform. An indy VR platform. OK. There are already a few of those. And they are pretty well known in the VR community. Plus Steam already allows homebrew software and YouTube allows any user supplied content. Google Play store has plenty indy VR stuff for the phone headset market. Again, some big, established, players you're going up against.

360 degree video? Is a niche within a niche. I have VR. Have done for a long time. How much do I use 360 vids? Almost not at all. Quality is king. Will be people be interested in user submitted content? (Which is no different to YouTube), no, not really. Highly unlikely to pay for it. Also, streaming it will require major bandwidth. Things like football and major sporting events? Yeah. Great. But the licensing and rights to stream stuff like that is a hugely expensive area dominated by MASSIVE global players. To stream stuff like this legally, I don't see this having much chance. If you can provide some concrete proof of partnerships in this arena, that might give me some hope, but just saying you plan to in a white paper? Not enough for me. As you say yourself, license agreements like that require good user numbers (which means BIG bandwidth requirements to support it). But how do you get the user numbers first? Not with home-made 360 vids, I can tell you that. VR users have had to endure months and months of homebrew shitware just to get where they are now. Their appetite for more of the same is ..... lets just be nice and say "very low"!

Free headset? At best, it's going to be a junk version mobile phone type set. Anyone thinking these compare with Oculus/Vive/PSVR .... nope. Sorry. Not even close. I don't see this as much of an incentive to anyone.

A lot of the things mentioned in here - porn, games (obviously), interior design, medical applications, are already either in development or available elsewhere. I struggle to see how this will offer anything over the established markets.

The advertising numbers in the white paper seem HUGELY optimistic to me. $100k for an advert on your platform? Who on earth is going to be paying those kind of numbers!

End result, much as I love VR, and expect and hope it will grow in coming years, I don't see how this offers anything new and it will be going up against some established players in an already niche market. The tokens themselves don't seem to server much purpose to me, and the dual token only makes it more confusing as to where the value lies.

I'll keep watching this, but I won't be buying into the ICO. I suspect, at best, it's a huge long term bet ....
As I got it Spectv platform will mainly  focus not on technicalities of VR but rather on user's incentives to create content for VR. In this sense the chance for success is very high/

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Good morning, spectiv! When the table of blog/article compaign will be updated?
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All prepare looks perfect, ICO just waiting about 2 weeks again, and I sure this ICO will raise huge fund from investors, and I will put with little fund here. Good luck dev.

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July 20, 2017, 09:34:01 AM
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Just want to update to make sure you all know that we are working on a lot behind the scenes - Further development, potential partnerships, marketing, legal organization, and more! We are excited about Spectiv and look forward to having you test our initial platform.

Thanks for keeping us up to date. Do you have an estimated time for initial platform launch to test?

We will be able to answering this shortly, we are meeting with our recently hired platform developer tomorrow. We hope to have a version of the platform that users can experience within 30 days. This will likely be more of an interactive demo, and not the full alpha.

If your team can pull this off before the ICO start than trust me your ICO is going to be a massive success.

OK. As an early adopter of VR, this interests me and I've been reading through this thread (although WAY too much of it is about bounties and worries about prices/Aug 1st etc. Not enough about the actual project itself!). I quoted this post as some sort of beta I can look at pre-ICO would be a "must have" for me.

Background: I work in IT. Have done for 20+ years. Fair amount of development experience. Lots of non-functional testing experience. Mainly load/performance/network testing and test automation. Have been involved with/using VR since Oculus DK1 stage. Currently own a Vive. Had a launch version Oculus as well, but sold that as I prefer Vive. Also have a phone adapter type headset (a BoboVR - one of the better ones on the market).

So, how do think this weighs up as an ICO?

Sorry, but I have HUGE doubts.  Undecided

Taking it mainstream? OK. Fine. Already trying to do that are: Steam, Oculus (backed by Facebook), Samsung, Sony, YouTube, Google etc etc. There are already a LOT of big players pushing this. What makes me think an unknown crypto can do a better job? Nothing.

Platform. An indy VR platform. OK. There are already a few of those. And they are pretty well known in the VR community. Plus Steam already allows homebrew software and YouTube allows any user supplied content. Google Play store has plenty indy VR stuff for the phone headset market. Again, some big, established, players you're going up against.

360 degree video? Is a niche within a niche. I have VR. Have done for a long time. How much do I use 360 vids? Almost not at all. Quality is king. Will be people be interested in user submitted content? (Which is no different to YouTube), no, not really. Highly unlikely to pay for it. Also, streaming it will require major bandwidth. Things like football and major sporting events? Yeah. Great. But the licensing and rights to stream stuff like that is a hugely expensive area dominated by MASSIVE global players. To stream stuff like this legally, I don't see this having much chance. If you can provide some concrete proof of partnerships in this arena, that might give me some hope, but just saying you plan to in a white paper? Not enough for me. As you say yourself, license agreements like that require good user numbers (which means BIG bandwidth requirements to support it). But how do you get the user numbers first? Not with home-made 360 vids, I can tell you that. VR users have had to endure months and months of homebrew shitware just to get where they are now. Their appetite for more of the same is ..... lets just be nice and say "very low"!

Free headset? At best, it's going to be a junk version mobile phone type set. Anyone thinking these compare with Oculus/Vive/PSVR .... nope. Sorry. Not even close. I don't see this as much of an incentive to anyone.

A lot of the things mentioned in here - porn, games (obviously), interior design, medical applications, are already either in development or available elsewhere. I struggle to see how this will offer anything over the established markets.

The advertising numbers in the white paper seem HUGELY optimistic to me. $100k for an advert on your platform? Who on earth is going to be paying those kind of numbers!

End result, much as I love VR, and expect and hope it will grow in coming years, I don't see how this offers anything new and it will be going up against some established players in an already niche market. The tokens themselves don't seem to server much purpose to me, and the dual token only makes it more confusing as to where the value lies.

I'll keep watching this, but I won't be buying into the ICO. I suspect, at best, it's a huge long term bet ....
As I got it Spectv platform will mainly  focus not on technicalities of VR but rather on user's incentives to create content for VR. In this sense the chance for success is very high/

Oculus already tried a "non-gaming VR studio". They gave up and shut it down. They have Facebook behind them! (And are now paying $50m to encourage content creators)

http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-facebooks-virtual-reality-unit-oculus-shutters-film-studio-2017-5

What make you think this could work instead? I've been involved with VR for years. The demand for video is not big. The bandwidth needed to stream it to a lot of people is huge. The costs of licensing any sort of big sporting even are also huge. Go look up how much FIFA sold the rights for the 2018/2022 world cups for!

I just don't see how this can work. It doesn't offer anything new or make anything better.

They offer 360 videos. Home made ones. And maybe a free google cardboard style viewer. That seems to be about it. I'm into VR and this doesn't interest me at all.

YouTube already does everything this wants to do. For free. And comes pre-installed on pretty much every phone on the planet (and one of their main "partners" already has a channel on there full of 360 content). And these guys want to take that on?!?!? Why would anyone go to the trouble of using this over YouTube? (Or Vimeo, or Facebook ..... who also offer 360 video .... I imagine there are others too.)

And there is almost no technical discussion in this thread. Or talk of tie up deals. Just loads of people chasing bounties ....  Roll Eyes

The few technical questions I could find (I have now read this entire thread) got either ignored, or got vague meaningless answers. Without a beta platform, some decent technical detail, and a shitload more info on who they are trying to partner with (and how they will host and support this .... all I could find was "probably Amazon S3"), you're buying into nothing much here.

I'm into VR. And I'm into crypto. And I work in IT. And nothing about this ICO appeals to me. That seems wrong given my interests.

I would be interested to see some decent detailed comment from the actual team, rather than bounty hunters shooting this down simply to try and prop up their bounty payments.

They mentioned on 15 July a "pre-alpha" demo should be available within 30 days. So that should now be available before the ICO right?

Also, I saw several replies from the team saying they had no plans to get this on any exchanges??? They would leave that up to the community. Why? That doesn't make any sense to me. As it stands, they will have a big pile of Ether (which they can cash in) and you will have a token you can't trade anywhere?!?!? And will have to petition to get it on exchanges if ever want to trade it. Can the team explain why they are not dealing with the exchanges themselves?
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Is part of the logic executed on the token contract ?
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ANNOUNCEMENT:

We have officially partnered with ICO Consulting firm Sutton Stone (https://suttonstone.com/)! Sutton Stone is a team of experts in the crypto industry who have a focus on the legal frameworks of crowdsales, marketing/promotion, and management of funds. We will be working with Sutton Stone to ensure the organization of our token sale and to ensure it is setup with proper legal structuring. To do this, we plan to setup an entity in the country of Mauritius, which is currently setting the legislation to become the 1st country to establish ICOs as legal. James Duchenne is spearheading this effort through direct work with the Mauritius government and Banks.

So what does this mean for Spectiv?

We are very excited to make this announcement because having Sutton Stone on board as our ICO Consultants will help ensure the success of our crowdsale. With this said, we will have to make some adjustments to our current timeline. We are currently expecting around 60 days of work with Sutton Stone to cover the following scope of work:

Deliverables:
Venture Assessment
Legal regulations: KYC, AML, securities, regulatory arbitrage, corporate setup, prospectives/disclaimers, outside legal counsel
Incentives: token model, token utility, implications
Security: governance
Operations: organizational model, non-profit structure, ICO processes

Schedule:
1 week for assessment
1 week for planning
2 weeks to address and adjust ICO model
1 month to execute the process
1 week for concluding work

With this new timeline, we will be delaying the launch of the crowdsale. We do not have an official date yet for the crowdsale, but we will make that announcement next week. We will also provide details on our new plans for a pre-sale which will likely launch in mid-late September. Everything we are doing is for the success of Spectiv, and to ensure that this crowdsale is setup properly.



In regards to our Bounty community, we will have a further announcement for you as well. Due to the new timeline, the bounty will go on for a longer period of time now. What we can say is that we will be increasing the allocation of the token supply to the bounty. Expect us to increase this allocation from 2% to either 3 or 4%, depending on when we schedule the crowdsale to launch.
Well, good news for member in bounty program, I agree need increase more reward for member in present. Although Spectiv still developing and starting campaign in one months, but have many member joined. Largest bounty I know until today!
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Good news regarding the ico. I hope you guys don't forget about the security regarding the crowdsale as so many hacks happen lately. Looking rto further announcement about the date.

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