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June 20, 2017, 04:32:34 PM
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This is supply and demand, not anymore. When the demand increases too fast in a short time there is a shortage because there is no time to increase production and distribution to compensate the new level of sales. Who will be happier with this is the sellers who will sell more and more expensive.
Just as expected if theres demand then expect for the prices to surge on and same on my country most of graphics card are already sold out on any computer store that I go because of this cryptomining which is really popular in my country.Have you heard about the news that those GPU companies would make a new gpu that are good on mining.This means they do really feel the demand.


I have read that NVIDIA is creating two graphics cards designed specifically to mine cryptocoins, they want to enter the market fully because there is a lot of demand and that means better benefits.
Well this is how business works on which if they would see that theres a potential on earning huge profits then they will surely jump into it to gain even more because they do observed that demand is increasing on purchased gpu not only on the essence of pc building but also on crypto mining which have more demand than on tradition purpose of it that is why they decide to make a new gpu which is designed for mining.Expect this one would be expensive compared on traditional ones.

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June 20, 2017, 05:24:47 PM
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Only AMD RX 470/480/570/580 which is sold out almost everywhere, regular customer still can buy older generation of AMD GPU or buy Nvidia which isn't that good for mining (exception for ZEC mining).
Also, i think this will end soon since ETH mining difficulty raising a lot and AMD/Nvidia will release GPU specific for cryptocurrency mining with better price/performance without gaming features (unless miners plan to sell used GPU after mining isn't profitable anymore).

amd is planning to release dedicated gpu for mining, so there will be no more shortage, but they have only a warranty of 3 months, and no display port, so no good for selling to gamers

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June 20, 2017, 08:01:23 PM
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Bitcoin was under the hottest spot lights and despite it they managed to mine using ASICboost undetected for a long time, who can imagine what kinds of dark magic they are using to mine coins other than Bitcoin? what models are the best to mine alts any ways? I might be able to find a few hundred thousands of various types and models where I live and send them some GPUs.

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June 20, 2017, 09:37:06 PM
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that is a perfect conditions to make money on that right now!!!!
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June 20, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
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A few users on reddit were complaining that GTX 1060 price is increasing very steeply, which may be an overstatement of the situation, although not totally untrue. These were US based customers, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there are shortages elsewhere.

People are looking to tap into bitcoins, and with the current price rise a lot of investors will be going into mining, driving the price of  mining equipments up.
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June 20, 2017, 10:19:30 PM
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It sounds like one of the previous traders experience where they have bought a coin and the price has recently fall down, market demand and supply theory is suitable for anyone so we can see this scnireo as one of the market's strategy and sad to say this but this quick mining stuff actually works and that the reason Russians takeover to this 5% of the bitcoin network just like other countries.
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June 20, 2017, 10:23:42 PM
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Well this isn't something that's only stuck on Russia at the moment, this an issue all over the world that is because of the mining alt coins with GPU's If you're in the US right now and trying to find a AMD RX 470, 480, 570, 580 you're just not going to find it at normal price, you're going to have to pay a high premium to even get it and that's just due to the amount of money that's being pumped into mining.

There's really nothing you can do about that except sit and wait for the bubble to pop in the crypto sphere and see what happens because of it, I think these GPU's are going to be trying to be sold for cheap because there's going to be an insane supply but little to no demand.

So, I can't wait!




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June 20, 2017, 10:42:33 PM
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https://www.rt.com/business/393179-russia-bitcoin-mining-video-card/

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An ordinary Russian consumer may face difficulty buying a video card for his home PC, Vedomosti newspaper reports. The recent surge in the value of bitcoin has caused a jump in demand for video cards, which are used in cryptocurrency mining.

People buy up to 600 video cards at once, sources in the industry told the media, causing a nearly 80 percent price surge since the spring.

Over the past two months, video card shipments have tripled, said IT-distributor Treolan. Market demand exceeds supply, it added.

Russia has about 5-7 percent of the mining sources, mining business owner Dmitry Marinichev told Vedomosti.

Russia is still under sanctions from the west, which means they can't easily import graphics cards.
Damn now that's impressive if there are people who are buying that many video cards; I can't expect for most of them being very high-quality since they'd be spending something along the lines of $600k if the cards are the newer versions from Nvidia. Maybe slightly under $400k if they're earlier versions and now more outdated. Both of those are staggering amounts of money though.
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June 21, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
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A few users on reddit were complaining that GTX 1060 price is increasing very steeply, which may be an overstatement of the situation, although not totally untrue. These were US based customers, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there are shortages elsewhere.

People are looking to tap into bitcoins, and with the current price rise a lot of investors will be going into mining, driving the price of  mining equipments up.

I remember that the Radeon x series went up in price a lot because people were buying chunks of used ones to stack up and create GPU farms then the Scrypt craze started back then with LTC, then Doge and other alts. I suspect a lot of graphic cards will go up in price as demand grows for mining purposes.
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June 21, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
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Well this isn't something that's only stuck on Russia at the moment, this an issue all over the world that is because of the mining alt coins with GPU's If you're in the US right now and trying to find a AMD RX 470, 480, 570, 580 you're just not going to find it at normal price, you're going to have to pay a high premium to even get it and that's just due to the amount of money that's being pumped into mining.

There's really nothing you can do about that except sit and wait for the bubble to pop in the crypto sphere and see what happens because of it, I think these GPU's are going to be trying to be sold for cheap because there's going to be an insane supply but little to no demand.

So, I can't wait!

Yes I believe there's also a shortage in North America. Games would be better off using their cards for mining, or at least while they are asleep or something :p Graphic companies should have anticipated this and manufactured more, they are losing money!
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June 21, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
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What is stopping them to buy thousands of graphic cards already in the market especially from China? I think Russians are lying just like when hash ocean told us that they are mining with GPU and because they buy from wholesale it will be profitable and other lame excuses Cheesy
I could open an online shop right now and order as many as GPUs I'd like and could afford to pay for and receive them after a week at my doorstep.
We're living in a modern age, we have internet now you couldn't possibly fall for this propaganda made up to show that coins like ETH and other coins which we could mine using GPU are very good and profitable.
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June 21, 2017, 07:39:06 PM
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There is shortage of Pc graphic cards everywhere and not only in Russia. Just give a look to Amazon website and you will see price for graphic cards like Rx 480 or Rx 580 are more than 600 dollars which is crazy as with that amount you can get a used gtx 1080 and mine more. Too much speculation in this market.

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June 22, 2017, 09:50:21 AM
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What is stopping them to buy thousands of graphic cards already in the market especially from China? I think Russians are lying just like when hash ocean told us that they are mining with GPU and because they buy from wholesale it will be profitable and other lame excuses Cheesy
I could open an online shop right now and order as many as GPUs I'd like and could afford to pay for and receive them after a week at my doorstep.
We're living in a modern age, we have internet now you couldn't possibly fall for this propaganda made up to show that coins like ETH and other coins which we could mine using GPU are very good and profitable.
Correct. They may have shortages locally, but there's always import.
Chinese stores are offering cheap shipment to Russia and it takes maybe 5 days for a product to reach you. Also their prices are sometimes much lower than retail. If you're determined to buy hardware there's no stopping you. Also, like you said, there's so much used hardware on the market, but miners are afraid of buying those because they're planning to stress their cards and need long warranty.

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June 22, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
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The real problem is not the Cryptocurrency mining. Everyone is ignoring the real issue here. Unless the Russian companies start manufacturing these cards in Russia itself, these problems will persist in the future as well. You can't expect the imports to remain steady, especially when the country is emerging as a major rival to the NATO alliance.
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June 22, 2017, 10:11:40 AM
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I could open an online shop right now and order as many as GPUs I'd like and could afford to pay for and receive them after a week at my doorstep.

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June 22, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
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https://www.rt.com/business/393179-russia-bitcoin-mining-video-card/

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An ordinary Russian consumer may face difficulty buying a video card for his home PC, Vedomosti newspaper reports. The recent surge in the value of bitcoin has caused a jump in demand for video cards, which are used in cryptocurrency mining.

People buy up to 600 video cards at once, sources in the industry told the media, causing a nearly 80 percent price surge since the spring.

Over the past two months, video card shipments have tripled, said IT-distributor Treolan. Market demand exceeds supply, it added.

Russia has about 5-7 percent of the mining sources, mining business owner Dmitry Marinichev told Vedomosti.

Russia is still under sanctions from the west, which means they can't easily import graphics cards.

I don't even want to believe that people are still breaking $600 video cards to mine $5 of bitcoin over 15-months. The ROI using video cards to mine BTC just seems laughable to me, they're better off just buying bitcoin with the $ instead of the cards, they'd profit more and sooner...
You cant blame them since they want to mine altcoin by using those GPU's, ROI might be longer but the extent of mining on altcoin would be greater than asics which really a good option or advantage when a certain altcoin would go pop out in the market.Knowing capable gpu would easily mine them but as expected profits will be smaller depending on which coin you do mine.

I feel like a huge jackass, but I wasn't even considering them mining Alt-coins as a possibility; that is much more believable than mining bitcoin with them! Alt-coins just seem really flimsy and shady for the most part, I've seen too many off them come and go to consider buying a bunch of GPUs and dedicating them specifically to that. Anyone who can have that kind of faith and take that leap, more power to you!

Learn something new everyday, I guess
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June 22, 2017, 10:23:11 AM
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https://www.rt.com/business/393179-russia-bitcoin-mining-video-card/

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An ordinary Russian consumer may face difficulty buying a video card for his home PC, Vedomosti newspaper reports. The recent surge in the value of bitcoin has caused a jump in demand for video cards, which are used in cryptocurrency mining.

People buy up to 600 video cards at once, sources in the industry told the media, causing a nearly 80 percent price surge since the spring.

Over the past two months, video card shipments have tripled, said IT-distributor Treolan. Market demand exceeds supply, it added.

Russia has about 5-7 percent of the mining sources, mining business owner Dmitry Marinichev told Vedomosti.

Russia is still under sanctions from the west, which means they can't easily import graphics cards.
This is what is expected to happen when people see more value in a particular item more than the face value. It happened before over here when some set of people start buying antiques watch and what used to be so much in abundance became excessively scarce in the environment. But I wonder how much bitcoin they will be able get with their video cards or maybe they are mining alts but because the only common crypto is bitcoin that is why all attention is on it.
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