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July 02, 2017, 03:09:35 PM
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Oh fuck, I just auto-spoiled myself the fight when I was looking for Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor news in Youtube. I saw that Jeff Horn put an upset win because he mentioned Mayweather in the post fight interview and it showed up in the search list. I just hope to see a good fight now even if I know the outcome. I hate when this happens, this is why I will watch GGG vs Golovkin and Conor vs Mayweather live, because it will be impossible to not get spoiled the very second you open an internet browser.
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July 02, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
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In my opinion this  'win' for jeff was a bad decision. manny landed 192 punches compared to Horn's 92. He had better accuracy at 32%-15%. jeff was battered and bruised in the end. The only marks manny got were from the accidental headbutts. Another fight which brought shame upon boxing. I am disappointed for pacquiao and for true boxing fans.


Though i think pacquiao's time is passed and it's time to retire to focus on other things, this one is his win clearly. I'm not sure how the judges saw the fight but it ws pretty clear to a lot of people who won. Even the compubox results clearly states who landed more punches which basically determines who won. It's the second time it happened that pacquiao was robbed as this seem the case with his first bradley fight

Really bad decision made by the judges cleary pacman won the match. So much mafia in here. Boxing now is corrupted by money and politics. This is why MMA is more exciting to watch now than boxing. Im really upset. This is a disgrace for the long history of Boxing
In despite of the decision pacquaio accepts the decision of the winner .Many people had been disappointed in the match but its a fight and we are not the judge so let it be ,Horn wins and its a good fight than floyd and pacquiao's fight.

Being the true sportsman that he is, I don't think pacquiao will still dispute the result since it's already done and over with. All of us who watched the fight knows how it went and who really was supposed to win. I mean, 117-111 in favor of horn? Where did that judge get that scoring? Probably there will be a rematch between these two soon.

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July 02, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
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Well I just watched it, that guy was really hungry for a win as expected, he knew it was his opportunity of a lifetime to pull an epic upset.

Manny had some unlucky accidental head cuts blocking his vision with blood. He almost KO'd Horn in the 8th-9th I dont remember, but Horn was wobbly ready to go out, but showcased amazing recovery and won the remaining rounds. I think it was a 7-5, but it was a close fight, closer than a lot claim. So many headbutts by Horn, and the choking too should have discounted some points. Im not sure if enough to call this a robbery for Pac tho.

Also Horn is delusional to call out Floyd. He would get outboxed.
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July 02, 2017, 05:19:15 PM
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i didn't watching the match but i saw the news that the judge has been made controversial decission and Pacquiao was lose and Horn  is the new champion however i think that was terrible that most people already bets for him even people in my country putting pretty much money because they thought Pacquiao will defend the title

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July 02, 2017, 05:30:48 PM
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Does a relative unknown like Horn having a competitive fight with Manny Pacquiao prove someone like Conor McGregor might be able to hang with Floyd Mayweather?

Judges definitely robbed Pacquiao when he fought Timothy Bradley. I don't agree with them awarding Horn the fight, either.

I remember Manny saying awhile ago he prefers to fight outside the united states due to him losing a lot of money paying US taxes.

Fighting in australia doesn't seem to have worked out well, either.
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July 02, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
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i didn't watching the match but i saw the news that the judge has been made controversial decission and Pacquiao was lose and Horn  is the new champion however i think that was terrible that most people already bets for him even people in my country putting pretty much money because they thought Pacquiao will defend the title
I haven't watch the game either and it's really upsetting a lot of people that Horn won this match. And I don't know how it came possible he won. Horn is still an undefeatable one, maybe he's trying to make his record clean and doesn't want some lose on it. Well that's the life of boxing, sometimes you win sometimes you lose.

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July 02, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
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It's obvious that Pacquiao won this fight, even thought Pacquiao is not on his prime age, he showed everyone what a true champion is. Even the score card showed that he won, even the viewers know that he is the winner, but as a champion he respected the judges' decision.

 
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Watching the fight playing dirty won the match headbutts and other back head punches made it seem like Horn did damage but this is not MMA but boxing on the fundamentals Pacquiao showed where it mattered, the judges score card was ridiculous you don't get points for trying hard against the Pac Man even with hometown advantage you get points because your landing clean hits.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/jeff-horn-defeats-manny-pacquiao-ridiculous-decision-blasted-by-us/news-story/d387c7364852499ebc04cc2a1b5adaca
“They gave a win, a huge win, to the local kid for trying hard,” he yelled. “You’re not supposed to get it for trying hard. You’re supposed to get it for winning and I thought Pacquiao won the fight if you go by the real rules of who lands the cleaner punches.”
“No way in hell Horn won unanimously,” he tweeted. “A 117-111 card? Ridiculous. This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”

That said looking forward to UFC vs Boxing in a sense hopefully decided without judges decision

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July 02, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
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It just proved once again that boxing is corrupted to the core,these judges must be investigated,i am pretty sure that they have taken huge amount of money from gamblers to score the fight like that,if not no one in the right sense will accept those score card.This is what is wrong with boxing all the way and this is what destroying boxing.
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July 02, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
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It just proved once again that boxing is corrupted to the core,these judges must be investigated,i am pretty sure that they have taken huge amount of money from gamblers to score the fight like that,if not no one in the right sense will accept those score card.This is what is wrong with boxing all the way and this is what destroying boxing.
When there is money involved you can already expect that there is a corruption, gambling has been known for a corrupt kind of sports even before and now that Pacquiao is on the verge of his retirement the boxing organization are giving it to the new one who destine to be a popular boxing someday.
At first look, I was so disappointed with the way pacquiao fight due to lack of power but I respect your opinion guys that in your opinion Manny had won the fight but whatever we think, we cannot protest anymore in this dirty organization.

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July 02, 2017, 10:17:09 PM
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Well I just watched it, that guy was really hungry for a win as expected, he knew it was his opportunity of a lifetime to pull an epic upset.

Manny had some unlucky accidental head cuts blocking his vision with blood. He almost KO'd Horn in the 8th-9th I dont remember, but Horn was wobbly ready to go out, but showcased amazing recovery and won the remaining rounds. I think it was a 7-5, but it was a close fight, closer than a lot claim. So many headbutts by Horn, and the choking too should have discounted some points. Im not sure if enough to call this a robbery for Pac tho.

Also Horn is delusional to call out Floyd. He would get outboxed.
This kid is a bum. Though his win is a controversial, i think he is not a worthy opponent for Paquiao. He is dirty as shit. The elbows and headbutts. C'mon, then the ref says that "im here to protect you". Lol. He is lucky he survived that 9th round. If Paquiao go all out there. He is going to sleep. Bob Arum, the judges, and the referee. They're all trash.
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July 02, 2017, 10:18:38 PM
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 This GAME IS RIGGED!, as everyone watch the game last night or what ever time in your country is for me Many Pacquiao was really the one who won the fight, I'm not saying that Horn was not a good fighter, yes horn was young, lots of stamina, but what he lacks is experience. Pacquiao has more experience was quicker and was smarter on the game, as you can see in the commentators score card you can see that Pacquiao was really in the lead, at first Pacquiao has a slow start but then after like 3 or 4 round he gain his self back and beat out the fk of horn, you can see at between round 8, 9 , or 10 you can see that Horn was really tired and he almost get knocked out but still the judges give him 1 point for that?, That's rigged and also the blood on Pacquiao's face was because of the head but and always holding Pacquioa's head other his arm while punching and also horn is punching when they hug on each other. Is that what you call a clean fight or a clean punch?. The game was fked up, it was in his home town and the judges were probably live in the same home town. The game is rigged and I think that boxing will be over soon. If this continues to happen.
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July 02, 2017, 10:30:32 PM
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This kid is a bum. Though his win is a controversial, i think he is not a worthy opponent for Paquiao. He is dirty as shit. The elbows and headbutts. C'mon, then the ref says that "im here to protect you". Lol. He is lucky he survived that 9th round. If Paquiao go all out there. He is going to sleep. Bob Arum, the judges, and the referee. They're all trash.
What really stopped him from going all out. Cheesy It is a real disappointing result as i never expected the judges to score the fight like this, i have to watch the fight once again to make sure that the fight i saw was the real one that the judges saw,something really went wrong i guess. Tongue
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July 03, 2017, 12:44:09 AM
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Congratulations to those who bet to horn, you got a large money from the odds. It was a controversial win but a win is a win. It is all part of the game. Manny knows how dirty boxing can be and he could have adjusted his tactics.
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July 03, 2017, 12:49:42 AM
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All sports are corrupted to some point and it's not just boxing. Clearly there was some rigging going on with this fight as there was a lot of money bet on this fight and when there is a lot of money involved then we can expect some rigging which is why I don't bet on boxing at all. I think the rematch will be even bigger so we shall see what happens with that.

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July 03, 2017, 01:07:26 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.
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July 03, 2017, 01:16:41 AM
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The thing is that Pacquiao is younger than Mayweather who is 40 and coming out of retirement to fight Connor Mcgregor of the UFC
So age wise he should retire but if Mayweather can still put up a good fight in the UFC Boxing Bout then that leaves Pacquiao wanting to battle it once more in the octagon ^^. Either way he has a rematch clause so he will get it back when they have a real bout not in rigged Aussieland lol.

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July 03, 2017, 03:15:00 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.

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July 03, 2017, 04:08:04 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.
Decision aside, Horn has fucking heart for days. He was beaten at the end of the ninth and to survive the last three rounds and arguably win two of them was insane heart.
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July 03, 2017, 04:22:54 AM
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All sports are corrupted to some point and it's not just boxing. Clearly there was some rigging going on with this fight as there was a lot of money bet on this fight and when there is a lot of money involved then we can expect some rigging which is why I don't bet on boxing at all. I think the rematch will be even bigger so we shall see what happens with that.

Yup sports now is corrupted by money and politics. It is clearly shoes that, that match is cheated. Statistics and the face after the match says it all.

Congratulations to those who bet to horn, you got a large money from the odds. It was a controversial win but a win is a win. It is all part of the game. Manny knows how dirty boxing can be and he could have adjusted his tactics.

Lucky for those who betted on Horn. Instant huge income for them
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