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July 03, 2017, 05:12:26 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.
I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown.
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July 03, 2017, 06:38:58 AM
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Horn if he landed a lucky punch but with experience, skills and speed, I think Pacquiao can win this.  Though I agree that he should be retiring on fighting inside the ring, he can still participate in boxing sports through particpation in promotion and supporting talented young Filipino boxers by teaching them his skills and footworks.
Actualy, at the scene of round 9 where paquiao hit horn He can definitely knock Him down, I don't know why Paquiao didn't do such   a punch many by that time instead of doing that He turn back to horn. I think Senator Paquiao much better to resign in His boxing career before its too late.
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July 03, 2017, 06:48:48 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.
I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown.

Well the reputation of the boxing industry seems to be unexplainable with this match. There are people that are looking and are sure of Manny won this fight. But let's see if that's going to be on the plan of Bob Arum and in Manny's side if they are going to have another match to come.

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July 03, 2017, 08:04:54 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.
I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown.

Well the reputation of the boxing industry seems to be unexplainable with this match. There are people that are looking and are sure of Manny won this fight. But let's see if that's going to be on the plan of Bob Arum and in Manny's side if they are going to have another match to come.
It wasn't fair though that by using his reputation to lose the game. It is obvious that he is the champion but then the opponent's group has somehow offered pacquiao some money despite the decision has made. Technically, Horn wins but in the eyes of people,mostly Filipinos they called it bias. Horn has much muscle pain compare to pacquiao. The unanimous decision is not just and the people who bet for Pacquiao lose the chances of winning. It's just a recurring situation. He is still the winner for he has a big title regardless of the fight with Horn. Probably, there is a rematch. That's is the world of gambling through sports.
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July 03, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.
I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown.

Well the reputation of the boxing industry seems to be unexplainable with this match. There are people that are looking and are sure of Manny won this fight. But let's see if that's going to be on the plan of Bob Arum and in Manny's side if they are going to have another match to come.
It wasn't fair though that by using his reputation to lose the game. It is obvious that he is the champion but then the opponent's group has somehow offered pacquiao some money despite the decision has made. Technically, Horn wins but in the eyes of people,mostly Filipinos they called it bias. Horn has much muscle pain compare to pacquiao. The unanimous decision is not just and the people who bet for Pacquiao lose the chances of winning. It's just a recurring situation. He is still the winner for he has a big title regardless of the fight with Horn. Probably, there is a rematch. That's is the world of
gambling through sports.
Yeah. Everything was just a game as people react. Still, it's gambling because people bet for who wins. However, those who chose Pacman to win of course they were disappointed because eversince they believe that Manny is the world champ. It was a bias decision for sure but then they are the ones to decide so we feel unjust. Though Horn wins, people still chose Pacman for he has contributed a lot in the world of boxing. In the end, Pacman received big amount of money despite his mild injuries.
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July 03, 2017, 09:02:32 AM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.
The ability of a sports man to make as much as he can is a limited window and even at this age he is able to put some good matches and make million,the part is that he cannot come back five or eight years from now because in sports you could make money in a limited period and no one can blame anyone for making that kind of money with a single fight,be it Mayweather or Manny.
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July 03, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.

I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose.
I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown.

Well the reputation of the boxing industry seems to be unexplainable with this match. There are people that are looking and are sure of Manny won this fight. But let's see if that's going to be on the plan of Bob Arum and in Manny's side if they are going to have another match to come.
It wasn't fair though that by using his reputation to lose the game. It is obvious that he is the champion but then the opponent's group has somehow offered pacquiao some money despite the decision has made. Technically, Horn wins but in the eyes of people,mostly Filipinos they called it bias. Horn has much muscle pain compare to pacquiao. The unanimous decision is not just and the people who bet for Pacquiao lose the chances of winning. It's just a recurring situation. He is still the winner for he has a big title regardless of the fight with Horn. Probably, there is a rematch. That's is the world of
gambling through sports.
Yeah. Everything was just a game as people react. Still, it's gambling because people bet for who wins. However, those who chose Pacman to win of course they were disappointed because eversince they believe that Manny is the world champ. It was a bias decision for sure but then they are the ones to decide so we feel unjust. Though Horn wins, people still chose Pacman for he has contributed a lot in the world of boxing. In the end, Pacman received big amount of money despite his mild injuries.


I was surprised by this result, although the judges seemed to favor Horn.
Pacman has pulled 100 more punches than his opponent and so it seems strange to me to defeat him.
 Surely he was not at the top of his shape and was unconcerned but he is clearly stronger than Horn.
If the judges really favored Horn, it is a lack of respect for a boxing icon like Pacquaio.

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July 03, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.
The ability of a sports man to make as much as he can is a limited window and even at this age he is able to put some good matches and make million,the part is that he cannot come back five or eight years from now because in sports you could make money in a limited period and no one can blame anyone for making that kind of money with a single fight,be it Mayweather or Manny.
Right the involved money is really hard to resist and knowing how pacman love this game can easily determined that he will still play no matter how criticsizm  will be in his sight and moving back to that particular result even an ordinary person will say that he really win that game.
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July 03, 2017, 02:55:55 PM
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I was impressed by the aggressiveness of horn on that fight tho he still tasted pacmans power especially on the round 9. I was also disappointed on how the dirty little tricks of horn only if he fought farely and defeated pacman i  will salute him but for now his victory is not convincing for me
Thats the thing mate it looks like its not a convincing win coming out for horn aside from the dirty tricks its also looks like a home court advantage horn defeat the peoples champ infront of his countrymen but for sure many will question this game.

 They should fight somewhere else. How about in the Philippines for the next time?. Horn is still a kid and needs to learn something. Well obviously boxing is really  corrupt if you want to win you should knocked them off if you cant you obviously lose
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July 03, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

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July 03, 2017, 05:25:08 PM
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I was impressed by the aggressiveness of horn on that fight tho he still tasted pacmans power especially on the round 9. I was also disappointed on how the dirty little tricks of horn only if he fought farely and defeated pacman i  will salute him but for now his victory is not convincing for me
Thats the thing mate it looks like its not a convincing win coming out for horn aside from the dirty tricks its also looks like a home court advantage horn defeat the peoples champ infront of his countrymen but for sure many will question this game.

 They should fight somewhere else. How about in the Philippines for the next time?. Horn is still a kid and needs to learn something. Well obviously boxing is really  corrupt if you want to win you should knocked them off if you cant you obviously lose
Yeah that also what I think  the reason why pacman lost. To win that match he need to knock down horn and that's not happen that's why horn wins even though I don't really like the decision but we cannot do anything about it.
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July 03, 2017, 05:42:39 PM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

So much biased there. I hope that there will be no more rematch. Pacman doesn't need to prove that he needed a second chance to regain the belt obviously in the eye of the people pacman is still the champ. Anyway I smell rat in the whole boxing scene. Promoters, businessman, and politics boxing now became a bussines fixing fights. I really hate what happnened to boxing.
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July 03, 2017, 06:54:32 PM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

So much biased there. I hope that there will be no more rematch. Pacman doesn't need to prove that he needed a second chance to regain the belt obviously in the eye of the people pacman is still the champ. Anyway I smell rat in the whole boxing scene. Promoters, businessman, and politics boxing now became a bussines fixing fights. I really hate what happnened to boxing.

I heard that Lenox Lewis believed that Pacquiao should have been declared the winner. Lewis is a veteran boxer that knows and is probably not biased toward either. It does sound fishy that so many people saw Pacquiao as the winner but the fight was in the home country of the opponent who was given the win.
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July 03, 2017, 07:16:33 PM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

Well the US isn't an angel in terms of robbing a fight against the winner but at least horn is not their patriot so perhaps they might want to play it fairly there but I'll advice the pacman that if ever a part 2 happens he should look for an opportunity to knock him out.
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July 04, 2017, 08:49:29 AM
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Lost some change here. I can't help but wonder if it is a gimmick.
Jeff losing(no rematch)
Pacquiao lost,(fans will be asking a rematch).

2nd match.

Pacquiao wins(fans will be crazy and might ask for a conclusive match).

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July 04, 2017, 08:56:30 AM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

So much biased there. I hope that there will be no more rematch. Pacman doesn't need to prove that he needed a second chance to regain the belt obviously in the eye of the people pacman is still the champ. Anyway I smell rat in the whole boxing scene. Promoters, businessman, and politics boxing now became a bussines fixing fights. I really hate what happnened to boxing.

Horn is obligated to have a rematch, it is in their contract. So if pacman still wants to fight horn, he can demand a rematch. I think he wi demand a rematch. It is all about money anyway.

About fixed fights in boxing, Boxing has been that way anyway. In one point it is even controlled by mafia. This is not something new.
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July 04, 2017, 09:11:34 AM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

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July 04, 2017, 09:26:39 AM
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I wish Jeff Horn would be willing to have a rematch here in the Philippines. He will for sure be respected if that happens regardless if he lose.And if ever he will lose, the 3rd fight to be held in the USA so no Hometown-advantage.
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July 04, 2017, 09:27:10 AM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

So much biased there. I hope that there will be no more rematch. Pacman doesn't need to prove that he needed a second chance to regain the belt obviously in the eye of the people pacman is still the champ. Anyway I smell rat in the whole boxing scene. Promoters, businessman, and politics boxing now became a bussines fixing fights. I really hate what happnened to boxing.

Horn is obligated to have a rematch, it is in their contract. So if pacman still wants to fight horn, he can demand a rematch. I think he wi demand a rematch. It is all about money anyway.

About fixed fights in boxing, Boxing has been that way anyway. In one point it is even controlled by mafia. This is not something new.
Well he is not obligated to have a rematch and i think there is no contract of rematch until the both agree just like now they are both open if pacman wants to have a rematch .Pacman still wants to fight and not to defeat his title before re resign in sport of boxing .
Money isn't matters most in the game because pacman was already a billionaire as far as i know .

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July 04, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
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Fight in Australia, score cards favouring the Australian. I smell a rat to be honest. I don't think Horn won that fight at all based on what I watched. I think a rematch is in order, probably in the US.

So much biased there. I hope that there will be no more rematch. Pacman doesn't need to prove that he needed a second chance to regain the belt obviously in the eye of the people pacman is still the champ. Anyway I smell rat in the whole boxing scene. Promoters, businessman, and politics boxing now became a bussines fixing fights. I really hate what happnened to boxing.

Horn is obligated to have a rematch, it is in their contract. So if pacman still wants to fight horn, he can demand a rematch. I think he wi demand a rematch. It is all about money anyway.

About fixed fights in boxing, Boxing has been that way anyway. In one point it is even controlled by mafia. This is not something new.
Well he is not obligated to have a rematch and i think there is no contract of rematch until the both agree just like now they are both open if pacman wants to have a rematch .Pacman still wants to fight and not to defeat his title before re resign in sport of boxing .
Money isn't matters most in the game because pacman was already a billionaire as far as i know .

Well i don't think there's any need for a rematch and any need for pacquiao to fight again at all. Let's face it, his age showed during that fight. Though it was clearly a robbery, that pacquiao would lose to a more high calibered opponent. I think it's already time to pacquiao yo seriously consider retiring.

 
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