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I knew the pacman was done and he should have seen this coming, even though the judges might have cheated I still think he shouldn't have gone to this fight but should have kept remaining a politician and hanged those gloves after the mayweather fight but those greedy promoters urged him on. I think he shouldn't embarrass his illustrious career with these games and should call it quits.
I guess it's now time for him to retire whatever the result of the match if it's fair or not. We can't blame the judges, if there is something behind those decisions we really don't know. But Manny is still a winner, in terms of shares to this game he the has most even his title was gone and he lose. I was surprised by how Jeff Horn put up such a gallant (and sometimes bully) stand despite being the heavy underdog in this fight. Surely, Pacman's age showed and his lack of knockout power is already very evident. That 9th round would have been over had that been a younger version of Pacman we saw there. But there seems to be rematch in the making so Pacman can probably adjust his game plan and do not underestimate his opponent anymore, especially if he is fighting in his hometown. Well the reputation of the boxing industry seems to be unexplainable with this match. There are people that are looking and are sure of Manny won this fight. But let's see if that's going to be on the plan of Bob Arum and in Manny's side if they are going to have another match to come. It wasn't fair though that by using his reputation to lose the game. It is obvious that he is the champion but then the opponent's group has somehow offered pacquiao some money despite the decision has made. Technically, Horn wins but in the eyes of people,mostly Filipinos they called it bias. Horn has much muscle pain compare to pacquiao. The unanimous decision is not just and the people who bet for Pacquiao lose the chances of winning. It's just a recurring situation. He is still the winner for he has a big title regardless of the fight with Horn. Probably, there is a rematch. That's is the world of gambling through sports. It's obvious to all of us but when Manny was interviewed he is just smiling and there is no heavy reaction coming from him. He is just being a good sportsman and yet he has bigger shares for this fight, with the PPV and the profit from the tickets and other sources that generated big money for top rank promotions.
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July 04, 2017, 03:21:23 PM |
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This GAME IS RIGGED!, as everyone watch the game last night or what ever time in your country is for me Many Pacquiao was really the one who won the fight, I'm not saying that Horn was not a good fighter, yes horn was young, lots of stamina, but what he lacks is experience. Pacquiao has more experience was quicker and was smarter on the game, as you can see in the commentators score card you can see that Pacquiao was really in the lead, at first Pacquiao has a slow start but then after like 3 or 4 round he gain his self back and beat out the fk of horn, you can see at between round 8, 9 , or 10 you can see that Horn was really tired and he almost get knocked out but still the judges give him 1 point for that?, That's rigged and also the blood on Pacquiao's face was because of the head but and always holding Pacquioa's head other his arm while punching and also horn is punching when they hug on each other. Is that what you call a clean fight or a clean punch?. The game was fked up, it was in his home town and the judges were probably live in the same home town. The game is rigged and I think that boxing will be over soon. If this continues to happen.
There are a lot of histories about australian boxing bouts being rigged. I can not confirm this or deny it, who knows, it's possible, but I don't think it was as clear as a robbery. Jeff did a good job, even tho he ruined his point advantage with a lot of headbuts and whatnot. It's hard to say, it's more like a tie to me.
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July 04, 2017, 03:45:58 PM |
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This contract probably has a good deal and made Pacquiao fight again.
Exactly and no doubt. Manny Pacquaio is not fighting for fame now since he already achieved what he wants to achieved. As long as his body can still keep up on the ring and BTC$if the price is rightBTC$ then why not? Win or Loss majority of stakes will be on him since Horn is no name. Lucky Horn, he will now have a big exposure providing he will only take home small amount of money to be consider in a main event with an opponent which is really a big name in boxing industry. That's why money matters and money talks. Considering that Pacquiao is already near to become a living legend and he did mentioned that he is already going to retire. But this is a sudden fight, he's a lawmaker,basketball player(playing coach) and boxer. Yet this is his decision and it's up to him on how long he can still fight with his entire boxing career. Its a pride for the people champs i think money influence this fight but he also aiming to prove that he still have it and he dont want to dissapoint the pilipino fans i guess even in small amount its good to have some bet for the favorite fighter of all time for all filipino around the globe. Money will always influence fight and Pacquiao is a wise man. Fight for pride and honor for the country is just a cover for his own intention and that's already over because he is now into a lot of careers. But whatever the result of this match, I want Manny Pacquiao to win this game as it will bring honor to himself and his country. True and that is one of the main reason why he can't quit boxing just yet. As we can all seethat fight was on Pacquiaos favor. The world thought that Manny won that fight. But as we can all see this game is all about business. This is nothing new especially to boxing. Money have changed the hearts of people and it is using sports as a cover. Remember the interview on what Manny can say about the decision, I think he just said that he will just prepare for a rematch so that fight is expected to happen that way and it goes according to plan.
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July 04, 2017, 03:54:26 PM |
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This contract probably has a good deal and made Pacquiao fight again.
Exactly and no doubt. Manny Pacquaio is not fighting for fame now since he already achieved what he wants to achieved. As long as his body can still keep up on the ring and BTC$if the price is rightBTC$ then why not? Win or Loss majority of stakes will be on him since Horn is no name. Lucky Horn, he will now have a big exposure providing he will only take home small amount of money to be consider in a main event with an opponent which is really a big name in boxing industry. That's why money matters and money talks. Considering that Pacquiao is already near to become a living legend and he did mentioned that he is already going to retire. But this is a sudden fight, he's a lawmaker,basketball player(playing coach) and boxer. Yet this is his decision and it's up to him on how long he can still fight with his entire boxing career. Its a pride for the people champs i think money influence this fight but he also aiming to prove that he still have it and he dont want to dissapoint the pilipino fans i guess even in small amount its good to have some bet for the favorite fighter of all time for all filipino around the globe. Money will always influence fight and Pacquiao is a wise man. Fight for pride and honor for the country is just a cover for his own intention and that's already over because he is now into a lot of careers. But whatever the result of this match, I want Manny Pacquiao to win this game as it will bring honor to himself and his country. True and that is one of the main reason why he can't quit boxing just yet. As we can all seethat fight was on Pacquiaos favor. The world thought that Manny won that fight. But as we can all see this game is all about business. This is nothing new especially to boxing. Money have changed the hearts of people and it is using sports as a cover. Remember the interview on what Manny can say about the decision, I think he just said that he will just prepare for a rematch so that fight is expected to happen that way and it goes according to plan. oh well we can't argue with that because manny have his pride so instead of quitting he will pursue and have a rematch proving that he's the real winner and making those game manipulator to earn much bigger money, and with this drama horn will be like bradley its really disappointing yet since im a filipino and i love manny i will still be betting for him.
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July 04, 2017, 06:37:44 PM |
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Rigged or not we can't changed now the decision. It's up to the history now. Im surprised with the aging Pacquiao. Imagine, he can still fight blow by blow at his age against the younger Horn. He still have that power and quickness. For those Pacman critics who saying that Pacquiao past his prime, wtf what do you think of him? Still like the old days at the age of 38? Of course today obviously he is not the prime Pacman in the past. They are not using their common sense here. They didn't realized that despite of his age, he can still wreck a younger boxer's face and send them to hospital. That's the power. Now wondering when is the next money match. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 05, 2017, 03:01:37 AM |
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Rigged or not we can't changed now the decision. It's up to the history now. Im surprised with the aging Pacquiao. Imagine, he can still fight blow by blow at his age against the younger Horn. He still have that power and quickness. For those Pacman critics who saying that Pacquiao past his prime, wtf what do you think of him? Still like the old days at the age of 38? Of course today obviously he is not the prime Pacman in the past. They are not using their common sense here. They didn't realized that despite of his age, he can still wreck a younger boxer's face and send them to hospital. That's the power. Now wondering when is the next money match. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It should happen soon or I will be happy if this will take place on december and when this bout will take place it will surely give a good christmas presents to the pacman fans. I heard the rematch will be in the Philippines, I'm sure pacman is still the favorites here despite the past showing.
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July 05, 2017, 03:13:45 AM |
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Rigged or not we can't changed now the decision. It's up to the history now. Im surprised with the aging Pacquiao. Imagine, he can still fight blow by blow at his age against the younger Horn. He still have that power and quickness. For those Pacman critics who saying that Pacquiao past his prime, wtf what do you think of him? Still like the old days at the age of 38? Of course today obviously he is not the prime Pacman in the past. They are not using their common sense here. They didn't realized that despite of his age, he can still wreck a younger boxer's face and send them to hospital. That's the power. Now wondering when is the next money match. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It should happen soon or I will be happy if this will take place on december and when this bout will take place it will surely give a good christmas presents to the pacman fans. I heard the rematch will be in the Philippines, I'm sure pacman is still the favorites here despite the past showing. I agree with you as soon as possible it is good .they have no major injuries to have a long recovery maybe it will set on february or march as the most fights happens .In the philippines will be the fight? I think it is much good to happen in Vegas .
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July 05, 2017, 03:54:08 AM |
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Rigged or not we can't changed now the decision. It's up to the history now. Im surprised with the aging Pacquiao. Imagine, he can still fight blow by blow at his age against the younger Horn. He still have that power and quickness. For those Pacman critics who saying that Pacquiao past his prime, wtf what do you think of him? Still like the old days at the age of 38? Of course today obviously he is not the prime Pacman in the past. They are not using their common sense here. They didn't realized that despite of his age, he can still wreck a younger boxer's face and send them to hospital. That's the power. Now wondering when is the next money match. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I don't understand people either, it's like they are just not watching and understand that he is way past his prime but still a bad ass. Hope he could be a bad ass senator too in my opinion. Lol
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July 05, 2017, 04:14:41 AM |
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Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.
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July 05, 2017, 05:15:25 AM |
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We can't take back the decision atleast Horn is getting what he deserved because of rigged and that's what I like. He is having tremendous bashing now. And this fought will be in history as rigged and will be stamped in people's mind and yet Horn is still proud of this win. This kinda win is something you shouldn't be proud of, shameful instead.
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July 05, 2017, 05:27:24 AM |
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We can't take back the decision atleast Horn is getting what he deserved because of rigged and that's what I like. He is having tremendous bashing now. And this fought will be in history as rigged and will be stamped in people's mind and yet Horn is still proud of this win. This kinda win is something you shouldn't be proud of, shameful instead.
Let's stop talking about the game is rigged because we cannot do anything about it, it's boxing and gambling as well so big interest will always be followed. Remember it was not played in Vegas where Pacquiao is very popular, it was played in Austrilia in front of thousands of Aussies, you cannot expect a fair decision especially that Pacquiao were not able to knock out the opponent. Just be grateful they delivered a good fight and we will just wait if there is a rematch.
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July 05, 2017, 05:37:20 AM |
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We can't take back the decision atleast Horn is getting what he deserved because of rigged and that's what I like. He is having tremendous bashing now. And this fought will be in history as rigged and will be stamped in people's mind and yet Horn is still proud of this win. This kinda win is something you shouldn't be proud of, shameful instead.
Let's stop talking about the game is rigged because we cannot do anything about it, it's boxing and gambling as well so big interest will always be followed. Remember it was not played in Vegas where Pacquiao is very popular, it was played in Austrilia in front of thousands of Aussies, you cannot expect a fair decision especially that Pacquiao were not able to knock out the opponent. Just be grateful they delivered a good fight and we will just wait if there is a rematch. The favor will go to the home land where they are playing. Let's forget this match as we do have our very own winner and it's clear to our minds. Upon watching the replay of that match, it will tell you who's the clear winner for this. Judges are judges and we are just watchers and supporters, fans that are watching at home or somewhere. Manny is happy with the fight and he doesn't have any grudge with it but I know he's upset in other way.
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July 05, 2017, 05:43:06 AM |
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Maybe we can see a part two of this fight. Rematch is likely to happen if Manny Pacquiao don't retire but for me he should retire now. There is nothing to prove for him because he's a legend now. If the rematch will be happen maybe the venue now is at las vegas.
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July 05, 2017, 06:18:41 AM |
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Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.
Manny should have expected that. He has a very long career in boxing and he should know that some things might not go well. He had fights with dirty boxer and did he think that complaining inside the ring will make him win? It's the opponents' gameplan because Manny is very hard to knockout so that's why they need to go dirty in order to defeat him.
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July 05, 2017, 08:39:59 AM |
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Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.
Manny should have expected that. He has a very long career in boxing and he should know that some things might not go well. He had fights with dirty boxer and did he think that complaining inside the ring will make him win? It's the opponents' gameplan because Manny is very hard to knockout so that's why they need to go dirty in order to defeat him. The only thing I love about Manny Pacquiao is his sportsmanship. Even though he knew that he has the advantage in that match, He still accepts the defeat without bad feelings or complains. But as a fan, I feel that the result is not fair considering that the statistics released by ESPN are in favor to Pacman and one of the blind judge scores 117-11 in favor to horn. Horn also was been knocked down and almost finish at round 9.
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July 05, 2017, 10:46:20 AM |
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Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.
Manny should have expected that. He has a very long career in boxing and he should know that some things might not go well. He had fights with dirty boxer and did he think that complaining inside the ring will make him win? It's the opponents' gameplan because Manny is very hard to knockout so that's why they need to go dirty in order to defeat him. The only thing I love about Manny Pacquiao is his sportsmanship. Even though he knew that he has the advantage in that match, He still accepts the defeat without bad feelings or complains. But as a fan, I feel that the result is not fair considering that the statistics released by ESPN are in favor to Pacman and one of the blind judge scores 117-11 in favor to horn. Horn also was been knocked down and almost finish at round 9. Manny said to an interview in the Philippines, that he has no bad feelings after the result to that match. He said he is in boxing for long time and the result was not new to him, but what is his concern was the referee which he said who doesnt have the knowledge to do his job.
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July 05, 2017, 11:02:49 AM |
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Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.
Manny should have expected that. He has a very long career in boxing and he should know that some things might not go well. He had fights with dirty boxer and did he think that complaining inside the ring will make him win? It's the opponents' gameplan because Manny is very hard to knockout so that's why they need to go dirty in order to defeat him. The only thing I love about Manny Pacquiao is his sportsmanship. Even though he knew that he has the advantage in that match, He still accepts the defeat without bad feelings or complains. But as a fan, I feel that the result is not fair considering that the statistics released by ESPN are in favor to Pacman and one of the blind judge scores 117-11 in favor to horn. Horn also was been knocked down and almost finish at round 9. Manny said to an interview in the Philippines, that he has no bad feelings after the result to that match. He said he is in boxing for long time and the result was not new to him, but what is his concern was the referee which he said who doesnt have the knowledge to do his job. The Philippines Games and Amusement board has filed a protest against the result of the boxing match between the two. I think the result will not be overturn although they can have a rematch. But for me its time for Pacquiao to really retire for good. He is getting old and we must admit he is not the same Pacquiao that we know of. At least retire while you are on top and still in shape.
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July 05, 2017, 02:19:16 PM |
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Our Filipino Champs got robbed in his fight with Jeff Horn.... The face of Horn will tell you the who's the real winner.
Manny should have expected that. He has a very long career in boxing and he should know that some things might not go well. He had fights with dirty boxer and did he think that complaining inside the ring will make him win? It's the opponents' gameplan because Manny is very hard to knockout so that's why they need to go dirty in order to defeat him. The only thing I love about Manny Pacquiao is his sportsmanship. Even though he knew that he has the advantage in that match, He still accepts the defeat without bad feelings or complains. But as a fan, I feel that the result is not fair considering that the statistics released by ESPN are in favor to Pacman and one of the blind judge scores 117-11 in favor to horn. Horn also was been knocked down and almost finish at round 9. Manny said to an interview in the Philippines, that he has no bad feelings after the result to that match. He said he is in boxing for long time and the result was not new to him, but what is his concern was the referee which he said who doesnt have the knowledge to do his job. The Philippines Games and Amusement board has filed a protest against the result of the boxing match between the two. I think the result will not be overturn although they can have a rematch. But for me its time for Pacquiao to really retire for good. He is getting old and we must admit he is not the same Pacquiao that we know of. At least retire while you are on top and still in shape. I have an opposite opinion. Pacquiao is still in shape for boxing. People just mistakenly overlook the speed of money because of size of horn and speed too. I said that he is still in shape because he bring a lot of damage to young horn. Look on his face and can you tell me if he is in good condition after the match compare to Pacman?
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July 05, 2017, 08:40:29 PM |
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This contract probably has a good deal and made Pacquiao fight again.
Exactly and no doubt. Manny Pacquaio is not fighting for fame now since he already achieved what he wants to achieved. As long as his body can still keep up on the ring and BTC$if the price is rightBTC$ then why not? Win or Loss majority of stakes will be on him since Horn is no name. Lucky Horn, he will now have a big exposure providing he will only take home small amount of money to be consider in a main event with an opponent which is really a big name in boxing industry. That's why money matters and money talks. Considering that Pacquiao is already near to become a living legend and he did mentioned that he is already going to retire. But this is a sudden fight, he's a lawmaker,basketball player(playing coach) and boxer. Yet this is his decision and it's up to him on how long he can still fight with his entire boxing career. Its a pride for the people champs i think money influence this fight but he also aiming to prove that he still have it and he dont want to dissapoint the pilipino fans i guess even in small amount its good to have some bet for the favorite fighter of all time for all filipino around the globe. Money will always influence fight and Pacquiao is a wise man. Fight for pride and honor for the country is just a cover for his own intention and that's already over because he is now into a lot of careers. But whatever the result of this match, I want Manny Pacquiao to win this game as it will bring honor to himself and his country. True and that is one of the main reason why he can't quit boxing just yet. As we can all seethat fight was on Pacquiaos favor. The world thought that Manny won that fight. But as we can all see this game is all about business. This is nothing new especially to boxing. Money have changed the hearts of people and it is using sports as a cover. Remember the interview on what Manny can say about the decision, I think he just said that he will just prepare for a rematch so that fight is expected to happen that way and it goes according to plan. oh well we can't argue with that because manny have his pride so instead of quitting he will pursue and have a rematch proving that he's the real winner and making those game manipulator to earn much bigger money, and with this drama horn will be like bradley its really disappointing yet since im a filipino and i love manny i will still be betting for him. I guess he has that attitude but his not showing that to the people. Maybe when he came home he can't believe and only laughing at the decisions from the judge. It's a pride from him but still he got the biggest take home for this game but if he is still in good health and can have a good deal, probably we'll see a rematch.
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July 05, 2017, 11:04:24 PM |
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Snip . . .
I guess he has that attitude but his not showing that to the people. Maybe when he came home he can't believe and only laughing at the decisions from the judge. It's a pride from him but still he got the biggest take home for this game but if he is still in good health and can have a good deal, probably we'll see a rematch.
And you just repeated what this people you quoted said. Anyways, I will be locking this thread now as the match already have concluded and there were of course many disappointed fans like me. If any news comes out regarding a rematch, I will reopen this thread.
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