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June 21, 2017, 10:13:14 PM
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Yes, the crypto ICO markets are red hot these days but it far from a bubble.
99% of the public does not even know beyond the names of bitcoin or Ethereum
much less own any cryptos. The market size at $110 billion is peanuts
compared to $100+ trillion global bond and stock markets.

Sure, there will be many scary corrections time and again but we're still at very early
stages in cryptoland.
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June 21, 2017, 10:25:38 PM
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Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.

You are definitely correct. There is an ICO bubble, maybe specifically an ETH ICO bubble even.

Some of you are saying the bubble popping will bring down other alts too and I believe this is correct too.

I layered the Hofstra Bubble chart over ETH/USD today and a crash is surely imminent - look here: http://populicapital.com/website-launch-and-ethereum-correction/
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June 21, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
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Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.
You are absolutely right it is nearly impossible to follow all ICO. Some of them are just scam but there is also some ICO which is serious and good profit potential for the future and good investment instruments. It is not easy to understand sometimes which one is big expectations for the future and which ones are going to die in few months.
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June 21, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
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Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.

Its totally a bubble, but thats not to say you won't still find good projects. What is going to happen is the shit projects that got funded just due to a bubble will eventually become worthless while the good ones will grow bigger than ever in the long term. So if you have chosen the right coin you should hold it for a long time, if you haven't then best chance is to flip it during a pump.
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June 22, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
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This is not only case with ICO every coin lately had rise and those forgotten coins which chains are broken or in trouble hit best prices, behind all this you can find a whales..Then you know what you can expect next.  How to avoid this, easy just don't rush, take your time to investigate a bit. Also you must recognize situation and right timing when to exit and stay in $..
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June 22, 2017, 09:39:48 AM
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Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.
It differs every ICO so pick the ico tmyou think that have a big potential based on their projects .
Why you invest think of it for profit right ? If you are a smart investor you will invest rightly where you will earn .And if you do sell with those dumpers you may earn only a little .A smart investor will think for long term based on what he saw in the projects .
If you invest go for long term it is the great projects not a single profit .
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June 22, 2017, 09:48:03 AM
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You are definitely correct. There is an ICO bubble, maybe specifically an ETH ICO bubble even.

Some of you are saying the bubble popping will bring down other alts too and I believe this is correct too.

I layered the Hofstra Bubble chart over ETH/USD today and a crash is surely imminent - look here: http://populicapital.com/website-launch-and-ethereum-correction/

But can we really apply the same prediction of patterns to ETH or any other alt? Historical analysis is not long enough... 5 years maximum? That is nothing, so we can only predict if we assume it follows the same pattern as others with historical basis.

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June 22, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
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ICO is like a field to grow Bitcoin, and it is proven that many investors are interested in ICO because once ICO is completed and launched in Market, they sell it for a higher price. After that the coin is discarded and worthless.

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June 22, 2017, 03:59:37 PM
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Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.

no don't do long term with ico, it's too damn risky, look at lisk, the value will never increase again like in the prime day, it's dead stuck there, and make the coin useless, and lisk was one of the best ico imho, because it has DPOS, which make it worth holding some after the ico

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June 22, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
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I think ico bubble is just the Ethereum problem. maybe Waves will have them too in next year. Other coins will be ok than.
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June 22, 2017, 05:48:09 PM
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Hi,

Everyday is a ICO and the collected money is raising and raising. Everyone try to jump on and sell after ICO.
After Everyico is closed,minutes after first people asking for exchanges. But why I invest in a ICO and than wanna dump 5 minutes later?

If I invest i do it longterm or not?

For me it seems to be a really really big bubble.
I think bounty hunters are selling after ICO.
People who invested are probably holding tokens for longer time, so in my opinion yes, if you invest you should hold long - if you want to make quick money than don't invest at all.
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June 22, 2017, 07:27:11 PM
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There are promising projects which are raising good amount of money which could reach a good valuation at a later time,these new projects does not end with the collection of money and if they carry on with the proposed project then they will be making a huge amount of money for the investors and for the developers.
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June 23, 2017, 09:00:47 AM
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This Ico seems not to be a bubble

www.Cryptobot.tech

One of the better Icos
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June 23, 2017, 04:33:45 PM
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Imho, at the moment there are lot of ICOs Ethereum-based. Most of them are raising more funds that they currently need.
BUT not all of the ICO are bad and over-hyped.

We just have to find those few that have a good project, a clear vision of what they want to achieve and invest in them. Personally I prefer the medium-long term, instead of the "quick bucks", so I buy and hold Smiley

 
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June 23, 2017, 04:53:42 PM
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We will see later if it is bubble or not. Right now things are developing so fast, we can't judge by present time. A lot of newcomers invest these ICO's and a lot of oldtimers look skeptical. We don't know yet but I hope it's not a bubble. So everybody can make some more money.

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June 23, 2017, 06:14:04 PM
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I've been through the NXT asset bubble - on a smaller scale but very similar.
I realized a lot of dynamics, that I wasn't aware of at the start. Especially noobs won't know. For example: If you buy ICO shares, they will be denominated in Ether, but that's deceiving. It's not Ether anymore. You sold a crypto and you bought a company. 99% of all companies will grow slower than cryptos will. You essentially set your money on a slower horse.

Next one: ICO-companies must sell their Ether. One of them just got $200 million? Well, that will essentially create a $200 million sell order of Ethers. So if they do, you just hurt the crypto you like. If they don't, then you just invested in an badly led and irresponsible company. Because should Ether fall, they would lose their funds and they can't operate anymore.

This might not be the moment yet, but at some point a huge downward dynamic will start. Smart companies will sell. Users will notice the price drop - sell the Ether they have left.
Dumb companies notice what's cooking - they start to sell to save what they have left. Now users get panicky - but all their funds are locked up. They want to flee Ether, but can't. They panic-sell assets. Lots of companies will fail - either they have no funds anymore, or their tokens are junk stocks now. Possible promised payoffs of the projects are often years away.

A lot of misery awaits. I just hope it won't hurt the crypto space in general too much. 
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I've been through the NXT asset bubble - on a smaller scale but very similar.
I realized a lot of dynamics, that I wasn't aware of at the start. Especially noobs won't know. For example: If you buy ICO shares, they will be denominated in Ether, but that's deceiving. It's not Ether anymore. You sold a crypto and you bought a company. 99% of all companies will grow slower than cryptos will. You essentially set your money on a slower horse.

Next one: ICO-companies must sell their Ether. One of them just got $200 million? Well, that will essentially create a $200 million sell order of Ethers. So if they do, you just hurt the crypto you like. If they don't, then you just invested in an badly led and irresponsible company. Because should Ether fall, they would lose their funds and they can't operate anymore.

This might not be the moment yet, but at some point a huge downward dynamic will start. Smart companies will sell. Users will notice the price drop - sell the Ether they have left.
Dumb companies notice what's cooking - they start to sell to save what they have left. Now users get panicky - but all their funds are locked up. They want to flee Ether, but can't. They panic-sell assets. Lots of companies will fail - either they have no funds anymore, or their tokens are junk stocks now. Possible promised payoffs of the projects are often years away.

A lot of misery awaits. I just hope it won't hurt the crypto space in general too much. 

Don't worry too much... I read the old posts in here and the pattern was similar on Bitcoin, ICOs and pumps and dumps. These are all terms used in the past, and they hurt a lot of people. The pattern is only repeating, but if the coin is strong, it will recover.

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June 23, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
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This so called "ICO BUBLE" worries me and doesn´t. I´ll just point to worriesome points for me:

1: Excess ICO´s and poor projects in ETH smart contrats can hurt the market and REALLY hurt ETH. If people start reallizing that that eth smart contracts are often scams or poor projects that could hurt the overall perception about them and in the end ETH itself.

2: About tokens again: Any start up is realizing a token. Sometimes i understand the use of the token but other is just crowdfunding and in the end the HODLERS will HODL nothing. Example: project for shared work space and a token. It the end the project is a success, but the token is useless because it is not needed to rent or buy the spaces.

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June 26, 2017, 02:42:30 AM
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This Ico seems not to be a bubble

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One of the better Icos
Is this kind of fairpump?
New style fraud, in my opinion.
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June 26, 2017, 02:49:04 AM
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Despite the many new ICOs there is no bubble imo. It is just that there are a lot of great new ideas being created on the blockchain technology. I think we are only at the very beginning of all this.
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