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November 27, 2010, 10:28:29 PM
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November 27, 2010, 10:32:21 PM
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If you download software from people who don't want you to share their stuff, you're supporting them.

If you don't like the idea of supporting the RIAA and the MPAA, vote with your money by supporting copyfree artists.

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November 27, 2010, 10:35:46 PM
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If you download software from people who don't want you to share their stuff, you're supporting them.
 

How would they know or care or be affected at all? You are supporting yourself when you use what you find.


If you don't like the idea of supporting the RIAA and the MPAA, vote with your money by supporting copyfree artists.

Absolutely agree.

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November 27, 2010, 10:38:19 PM
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If you download software from people who don't want you to share their stuff, you're supporting them.
 

How would they know or care or be affected at all? You are supporting yourself when you use what you find.

The economic consequence of this usually have an advertising effect for the product and crowd out copyfree people.

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November 27, 2010, 10:39:14 PM
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Can we stay on topic and post related to invites not the ideas of copyrights.

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November 27, 2010, 10:39:43 PM
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Can we stay on topic and post related to invites not the ideas of copyrights.

Downloading and torrents does have a lot to do with copyright.

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November 27, 2010, 10:53:49 PM
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where i can find copyfree artists? is there some place?

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November 27, 2010, 10:56:06 PM
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If you download software from people who don't want you to share their stuff, you're supporting them.
 

How would they know or care or be affected at all? You are supporting yourself when you use what you find.

The economic consequence of this usually have an advertising effect for the product and crowd out copyfree people.

I suppose so. I guess I actually don't care if the no copy nazis get recognition for their good work. Creators who are better don't get crowded out either. And they even get an advantage from their work being more useful to other creators.

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November 27, 2010, 10:56:17 PM
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Used to be a member at FF...it's a great site. Thanks for the offer, bober.
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I suppose so. I guess I actually don't care if the no copy nazis get recognition for their good work. Creators who are better don't get crowded out either. And they even get an advantage from their work being more useful to other creators.
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November 27, 2010, 11:03:40 PM
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That is like if I was selling car and you come over asking about America and the Iraq oil war.
Yes oil and cars have things in common.
Yes Bittorrent and copyrights have in common.
Selling cars and wars in Iraq do not.
Funfile invites and copyrights are not.

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November 27, 2010, 11:06:22 PM
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where i can find copyfree artists? is there some place?

http://www.mininova.org/
http://www.pirateparty.ca/captain/torrents
http://freemusicarchive.org/curator/creative_commons

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November 27, 2010, 11:10:10 PM
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That is like if I was selling car and you come over asking about America and the Iraq oil war.
Yes oil and cars have things in common.
Yes Bittorrent and copyrights have in common.
Selling cars and wars in Iraq do not.
Funfile invites and copyrights are not.

Oh come on, I know that 99.9% that people use torrents to pirate stuff.

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November 27, 2010, 11:11:01 PM
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They're copyleft, not copyfree. There is a difference.

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November 27, 2010, 11:11:53 PM
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Oh come on, I know that 99.9% that people use torrents to pirate stuff.
Oh come on, I know that 99.9% that people use cars to pollute stuff.

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November 27, 2010, 11:14:06 PM
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Oh come on, I know that 99.9% that people use torrents to pirate stuff.
Oh come on, I know that 99.9% that people use cars to pollute stuff.

If you want to be a smartass, that's fine. Piracy is more of self-infliction rather than harming other people.

You know what, it's in your guys' right to pirate whatever the heck you want. Just be warned that it is not in your long term interest to do so.

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November 28, 2010, 12:13:14 AM
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I highly recommend http://put.io
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http://lmptfy.com

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November 28, 2010, 06:57:51 AM
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This board is full of great links. thanks guys
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November 28, 2010, 04:52:32 PM
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That is like if I was selling car and you come over asking about America and the Iraq oil war.
Yes oil and cars have things in common.
Yes Bittorrent and copyrights have in common.
Selling cars and wars in Iraq do not.
Funfile invites and copyrights are not.

Oh come on, I know that 99.9% that people use torrents to pirate stuff.

A substantial amount of bitorrent traffic is legitimately licensed material. For example, every GNU/Linux distro has a torrent for their latest release install disk.  Many semi-amateur tv serials are released on bittorrent (The Guild?) and in the past some serials in syndication were released onto bittorrent at the same moment that the episode aired.  Stargate SG1 did this for a time, unofficially, while they were in dispute with the SciFi channel.  Those episodes were easy to spot as 1) they were released before the end of the show's first airing (impossible for anyone without insider access) 2) they were of dvd quality 3) they did not contain any commercials, broadcast indentifer overlays, or editing marks and 4) sometimes contained the editing marks that are never broadcast.

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