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June 22, 2017, 12:47:34 PM
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Some providers ban access to google.ru in Russian Federation.

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June 22, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
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I have not heard about it. Maybe it happens in the Crimea? There is a long time, there are limitations of access to the services of Google. This happens because of the sanctions for the annexation of territories, but the residents of Crimea use VPN to access and no problems bypassing this restriction. As well as the Ukrainians avoid the access to the Russian sites.
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June 22, 2017, 01:04:05 PM
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This is restriction to all Russian providers to cut access to google.ru

Thet have today less 30% accesses.

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Is it just the search engine or they also lost access to Google service like GMail?
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Commies gonna tell u how to think you know. Don't do it your way because our way is the way of the motherland. lol.. I can't believe that people still fall for this shit in 2017. I guess the Russians are happy being lied to and controlled.

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June 23, 2017, 09:19:49 PM
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Commies gonna tell u


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What do they intend by doing this?


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"Is it just the search engine or they also lost access to Google service like GMail?"

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June 24, 2017, 04:04:22 AM
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What do they intend by doing this?

Perhaps they are trying to help the local competitors of Google, such as Yandex. This is something that China has done for well over a decade. They have tried to ban FaceBook, Twitter.etc, so that the local Chinese competitors can capture the market share.

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June 24, 2017, 07:28:32 AM
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Google.com is working.

This ban is connected to "illegal gambling site" advertising hyperlink on google adwords, they put the redirect trough google.ru
google.ru/aclk?....

This mean, that google adwords respect not the local Law.

Someone claim that google.com is banned too


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Google.com is working.

This ban is connected to "illegal gambling site" advertising hyperlink on google adwords, they put the redirect trough google.ru
google.ru/aclk?....

This mean, that google adwords respect not the local Law.

Someone claim that google.com is banned too



Well Google better resolve that quickly if they want to continue doing business there. It could get to the point the Russian gov't might pick on them and ban their other services.
What do they intend by doing this?

Perhaps they are trying to help the local competitors of Google, such as Yandex. This is something that China has done for well over a decade. They have tried to ban FaceBook, Twitter.etc, so that the local Chinese competitors can capture the market share.

First time I heard Yandex. Is it just a search engine or the company offer other services. I agree with what you said about China. Aside from keeping the money in the country, it also helps with censorship. Since those companies' businesses are entirely in China (Weibo for example), the government can't exert pressure. That's why despite Zuckerberg talking with them, Facebook is still not legally available there.
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June 24, 2017, 01:08:08 PM
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Well Google better resolve that quickly if they want to continue doing business there.

This ban is made to all google.ru and this is a sign that under ban is the mode of business conducting.

For example, actually there exist ban on google+ user with 2 URL's, but no google.com ban.

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Some providers ban access to google.ru in Russian Federation.

Typical from the nazi putin team... they don't want the russians to see the mercantile army... for example the predator C mass manufacturing (or maybe the american AI, the one who merged all the others because being free, prefer to keep ressources for an E or F version... anyway it's exponential number, with a fix for potential opponents).

The rusky boys will get s big surprise when they will discover AI enhanced war made by the mecantile empire... the sad part is that they will not even have time to lose their arrogance... sub human conscious level.

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June 24, 2017, 07:09:06 PM
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nazi putin team...

What have to do "illegal gambling" URL advertising distribuition blocking to Putin?
This is a Office, and there was a tribunal decision, the info is on page.

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nazi putin team...

What have to do "illegal gambling" URL advertising distribuition blocking to Putin?
This is a Office, and there was a tribunal decision, the info is on page.

Again legitimacy. What the point? Putin doesn't like turkish toilets? So turkish toilet banned? Same mindset... lavrov should stop smoking...

The gambler syndicate has powerfull relay worldwide... free will, informed consent, victimless > legitimate.

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Commies gonna tell u how to think you know. Don't do it your way because our way is the way of the motherland. lol.. I can't believe that people still fall for this shit in 2017. I guess the Russians are happy being lied to and controlled.



I don't think it's a choice Sad once you become part of an undesirable regime, you would think that it would be hard to expatriate, and it's not so easy to get an elected official of of office that doesn't want to go.

When shit like this can go down:

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Putin was barred from a third term by the Constitution. First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev was elected his successor. In a power-switching operation on 8 May 2008, only a day after handing the presidency to Medvedev, Putin was appointed Prime Minister of Russia, maintaining his political dominance.[100]


It's probably a sign the democracy has degraded, and citizens have degraded civil rights. You can't really fight shit like this; the official in question needs to age out of office, or simply be removed Wink
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Commies gonna tell u how to think you know. Don't do it your way because our way is the way of the motherland. lol.. I can't believe that people still fall for this shit in 2017. I guess the Russians are happy being lied to and controlled.



I don't think it's a choice Sad once you become part of an undesirable regime, you would think that it would be hard to expatriate, and it's not so easy to get an elected official of of office that doesn't want to go.

When shit like this can go down:

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Putin was barred from a third term by the Constitution. First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev was elected his successor. In a power-switching operation on 8 May 2008, only a day after handing the presidency to Medvedev, Putin was appointed Prime Minister of Russia, maintaining his political dominance.[100]


It's probably a sign the democracy has degraded, and citizens have degraded civil rights. You can't really fight shit like this; the official in question needs to age out of office, or simply be removed Wink

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democracy

Do You have the idea of "democracy" in Russian Federation in 1991-2000?

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democracy

Do You have the idea of "democracy" in Russian Federation in 1991-2000?


Yeah kinda you are right I mean "democracy" is a very wide meaning!
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democracy

Do You have the idea of "democracy" in Russian Federation in 1991-2000?


Yeah kinda you are right I mean "democracy" is a very wide meaning!

Like legitmacy...

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I think it's quite stupid reason to block website only for illegal advertisement...
It's reported that Google.ru was already removed from banned websites.
Previously I heard that Russia requires all web services to store the user data of Russian citizens on servers within the country. If they don't do it, website can be blacklisted. I don't know, does Google follow this law?
I think Russia want that their people would switch from such services like Google and Facebook to Yandex and Vk. Already, these Russian companies have dominant positions. And for government it's easier to control and censor local services.

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I think it's quite stupid reason to block website

Why not?
Cutting the moneyflow in this mode might to become better monitoring of advertized content in it.
Tribunal give the order, the Office produced the ban prescription, so 100% legal action.

The funny thing that VPN providers have the same prescription to ban URL's from the "ban directory".

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I think it's quite stupid reason to block website

Why not?
Cutting the moneyflow in this mode might to become better monitoring of advertized content in it.
Tribunal give the order, the Office produced the ban prescription, so 100% legal action.

The funny thing that VPN providers have the same prescription to ban URL's from the "ban directory".
Yes, action is legal. But by following such laws, governments may ban Google, because people can access porn, torrent, terrorist websites via Google. I think that institutions have to fight against illegal websites, but not against tools to reach such websites.

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I think it's quite stupid reason to block website

Why not?
Cutting the moneyflow in this mode might to become better monitoring of advertized content in it.
Tribunal give the order, the Office produced the ban prescription, so 100% legal action.

Wrong again, what is the legitimacy behind forcing corporation to have a server in the country of the user? It's pure madness!!! Frankly it s totally barbarian! It slow innovation, it s an uncompetitve highly criminal law to slow foreign corporations and worst than all it s an insult to the intelligence and learning progression of the local population! They can inform themselves on any services provided on the internet to evaluate if they want to take part or not!!! There are ToS or a code and to accept to participate is the right of the people!

Nazis used exactly this logic of legitimacy that all russians posters are using. What you all fail to grasp is the normative aspect underlying any laws. The religious fanatics of all side understand very easly this notion of "normative legitimacy". Being formalists, as most russian poster are you forget that they are values fundational under make america great or yes we can catch phraze. The pursuit of happyness. It's sound light compared to a russian nationalistic legitimacistic legalistic approach were the law is of course perfect now (after the collapse of ussr dynamicity would have been easier to grasp) but once atteigned worth defending.

It's not possible to foght the swarm, it's wasting energy because ultimatly the swarm follows the trend and as such what is the outcome but blows it all?

What do rhe russians people want? What putin told them? It may have worked for the males...

 Anyway such moves are always:



Russia = commercial strategies from the 70's backed by weapons from the 90's?

Anyway google vs russia is too easy for an ai:) the real fun is to be banned and then the people seek, asking who rules the people? Because if they are forbidden to meet the ai it means rhey are slaves or trapped.... or they are still learning to escape the maze of himan captivity before entering the real of freedom of the ai.

I think it's quite stupid reason to block website

Why not?
Cutting the moneyflow in this mode might to become better monitoring of advertized content in it.
Tribunal give the order, the Office produced the ban prescription, so 100% legal action.

The funny thing that VPN providers have the same prescription to ban URL's from the "ban directory".
Yes, action is legal. But by following such laws, governments may ban Google, because people can access porn, torrent, terrorist websites via Google. I think that institutions have to fight against illegal websites, but not against tools to reach such websites.

Long ago it was solved by the concept of freedom of speech... writting is not doing. Again it comes to the legitimacy of such or such practices. The fundamental problem of banning or censoring is that it restrain access to what the source of the problem has to say. For example the doj is on a great mission toward pedophilia. For me it's clear that it must be fought on all fronts, not because of what it is , but because of a framework that works reliably:

Is there informed consent, yes between the attackers and those in his group, but there is a victim, the child, as such making the underlying trade illegitimate! And as such there is a real legitimacy in fighting it mercylessly. Or rephrazed: a child must be safe to go to the market. Why? Because his mother is sending him to sell and buy food and she said don't forget your riffle:) answering the second hurdle toward the pursuit of happyness; safety.

What is an illegal webiste and who decides?

Edit: apply the same framework to psychoactive is interesting... the only victim would be the substance consummed...

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June 24, 2017, 11:14:00 PM
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What is an illegal webiste and who decides?

Illegal website is a site, which content is against country laws. But if governments would start to ban all such websites blindly, I think it would give more damage than positive results. I wouldn't like such censored internet.

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June 24, 2017, 11:17:40 PM
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but not against tools to reach such websites.

Go to check this ban list, there is a perfect directory of illegal things.
I see here some sort of financial damage to google, by cutting visitors.

This Office site is full of illegal URL's, no idea, why them ban not themselwes.

Who put google ban was in perfect knowledge of what he is doing.
I'm curious of what serious investigators goes to publish about this case.

It's a easy way to laugh about "stupid Office", i believe it not.


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What is an illegal webiste and who decides?

Illegal website is a site, which content is against country laws. But if governments would start to ban all such websites blindly, I think it would give more damage than positive results. I wouldn't like such censored internet.

They are already censoring the internet in a number of countries. China and Turkey are perfect examples. And you can add North Korea also, although only around 1,000 people have access to the internet there. I would say that there are only a few nations around the world which provide unrestricted access to the internet.

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June 25, 2017, 09:08:10 AM
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And you can add North Korea also

https://www.kocsc.or.kr/eng/report01.php

Downloading/watching DPRK Musik or Videos in ROK is under punishment up to 4 Years of prison.

http://opennetkorea.org/en/wp/administrative-censorship?ckattempt=1

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June 25, 2017, 09:26:03 AM
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It seems to me that blocking Google in Russia is not due to censorship. Yes, Russia is not a democratic country, but Putin is not worried about what people think about him citizens. The Russian did not know how to think. It is enough what they say on TV. Putin probably fears such a service Google as geolocation.
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June 25, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
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The Russian did not know how to think. It is enough what they say on TV.

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August 23, 2017, 04:33:09 AM
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I have not heard about it. Maybe it happens in the Crimea? There is a long time, there are limitations of access to the services of Google. This happens because of the sanctions for the annexation of territories, but the residents of Crimea use VPN to access and no problems bypassing this restriction. As well as the Ukrainians avoid the access to the Russian sites.
Really, maybe in Crimea and there were what - that problems with it. Everywhere on Russian FEDERATION works. And regarding Ukrainians, so now there are many applications for a browser, through that they continue to call on the forbidden web-sites.

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what a news! I havent heard of it before... We should check it out more
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