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July 10, 2017, 09:11:20 PM |
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Do you know what the problem is? The lack of communication of the administrator with its users, if he could do at least to trust a little more on the page was better.
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July 10, 2017, 09:14:05 PM |
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Do you know what the problem is? The lack of communication of the administrator with its users, if he could do at least to trust a little more on the page was better.
Agree with you. Seems like he's abusing block/ignore functions instead if the questions are not convenient.
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July 10, 2017, 09:47:27 PM |
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I have nothing invested and nothing to lose. The change makes perfect sense to me. No it probably isn't fair that it was changed after people already invested time, but if the program is going to last then it seems like an obvious change. This is free money with no effort other than to log in and click once. Where in the world do get returns like this with no effort at all? NOWHERE. Maybe it is a scam, but nowhere did I suggest that you should invest any money. All I said was it makes sense that there are restrictions on free accounts.
We have no idea how much money is made on the ad revenue or anything else so there is no way to know if the program is at all solvent. Anyone thinking that this is anything other than a BIG FAT risk is asking to lose their money. If you never deposit a coin then you have nothing to lose except the time it took to click your claim button several times a day. You can still get your free money you just need to click to buy Mars and claim for 10 more days like you were already planning on doing. In fact it is even easier because you only have to visit once every 8 hours instead of 2.5 hours. If the site dies in the next 10 days then you still haven't lost anything more than you originally put into it.
Free money is still free money. If it goes away you didn't lose anything but the hope that you were going to get free money.
Right, just the 18 days spent clicking 9x (?) a day to reach 500K satoshis while fighting ads and numerous redirecting popups only to lose it on a planet that limits your claiming to 3x a day and will take 10 more days of clicking and redirecting popups just to get back that amount. Or you deposit 500K satoshis from your wallet immediately to buy Mars hoping you can evade the 18 days of Earth clicking and start your 10 days in earnest only to receive the lovely "You can only withdraw with planet Mercury" message. Edit: And oh, did I mention that you're essentially paying CWM? Where do you get that planets are LIMITED to 3x claim per day? Where did I say "planets" are limited to 3x claims per day? Right there. You clearly have comprehension issues. How many times can I claim Earth's max payout in a day? How many times can I claim Mars's max payout in a day?
[-- snip non-answer --] Answer the question. I have no time to entertain your irrelevant rationalizations so if you need my very simple question be further broken down for you to grasp then say so. Not sure why you call proper english word salad when it is pretty clear and concise. That is exactly what your posts here are not. I asked you a simple question and rather than answering it you went off on a tangent. Whereas you seem to really like to use ellipses between your sentences and looks far more convoluted that anything I've written.
Please, do point out the many posts of mine using ellipses here. Guess if you can't beat the argument then attack the man. Sure, if you had an argument that is and if all I've done is attack you or "attack the man" at all. So far all you've done is offer claim upon claim about the change making sense, that it constitutes an argument in your mind doesn't make it one.
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Jaerin
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July 10, 2017, 10:00:42 PM |
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Coiner you can claim any of the paid for planets maximum payout 3x per day.
The thing you seem to be completely ignoring is WHY that is. Also when you have to make those claims to get those planets to get the maximum payouts.
How many times can you claim Earth's maximum payout?
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July 10, 2017, 10:05:39 PM |
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Coiner you can claim any of the paid for planets 3x per day. The thing you seem to be completely ignoring is WHY that is.
How many times can you claim Earth's maximum payout?
The thing you seem to be missing is the fact that you've spent over a thousand words trying to counter @already06's point that you can only claim Mars's max claim 3x a day only to say exactly what he said while hoping it would favor your viewpoint. You can continue to try and rationalize this and feign ignorance with stuff like "you can claim any of the paid for planets 3x per day" but you were wrong, absolutely wrong. BTW, I'm still waiting for those my many posts in this thread with ellipses.
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Jaerin
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July 10, 2017, 10:30:55 PM |
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No the number of claims per day is irrelevant. You buy a planet and get more Sats per minute. That's all that matters. Whether you claim them 3x per day or 10x per day is irrelevant. You're not limited to 3x per day you are limited to 35sats/min which accumulate to a maximum every 8 hours if you don't claim them.
So it is not limited to 3 claims per day, it is limited to 35Sats per minute. Which is clearly stated as being the maximum payout of 3x your initial investment.
As for the ellipses you're right that was malik59's post that I attributed to you I apologize.
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July 10, 2017, 10:38:48 PM |
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No the number of claims per day is irrelevant. You buy a planet and get more Sats per minute.
![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Seeing as that - max claims per day - is exactly the point of contention I gotta ask, are you sure you even know what you're trying to argue against?
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July 10, 2017, 10:40:57 PM |
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Each planet above Earth rewards you with XXXX sats every minute up until it reaches the planet's cap which for say Mars is 17000 satoshis at which point you make 0 more until you make a faucet claim. Then it resets from 0 again to 17000. Going from 0 to 17000 takes 8 hours. So for convenience sake you only NEED to claim 3 times per day. However, you can claim every 5 minutes if you prefer. Earth however stops ticking once it hits 3000 satoshis at which point you need to make a claim in order for it to start ticking up again. That takes 2.5 hours. So for Earth you need to claim much more. Also as of yesterday, if you have Earth you cannot make a withdrawal. A very fair move which weeds out all the losers. Hope this explanation clears things up a bit for those still confused. The easy way is to give the website a go and try out the faucet. It's easy to use once you actually try. Good luck all ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Jaerin
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July 10, 2017, 10:43:09 PM |
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No the number of claims per day is irrelevant. You buy a planet and get more Sats per minute.
![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Seeing as that - max claims per day - is exactly the point of contention I gotta ask, are you sure you even know what you're trying to argue against? Obviously not because you're failing to make a point other than to disregard everything I'm writing. What argument do you seem to think is being made? See Bitcoin Dragon seems to understands it. Why don't you clarify your point if we're not understanding it.
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July 10, 2017, 11:07:45 PM |
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No the number of claims per day is irrelevant. You buy a planet and get more Sats per minute.
![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Seeing as that - max claims per day - is exactly the point of contention I gotta ask, are you sure you even know what you're trying to argue against? Obviously not because you're failing to make a point other than to disregard everything I'm writing. What argument do you seem to think is being made? See Bitcoin Dragon seems to understands it. Why don't you clarify your point if we're not understanding it. I already made my point here. Maybe you should go back to your first reply to me quoting @already06 and ask yourself if you really understood what you thought you were arguing against.
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July 10, 2017, 11:13:15 PM |
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Each planet above Earth rewards you with XXXX sats every minute up until it reaches the planet's cap which for say Mars is 17000 satoshis at which point you make 0 more until you make a faucet claim. Then it resets from 0 again to 17000. Going from 0 to 17000 takes 8 hours. So for convenience sake you only NEED to claim 3 times per day. However, you can claim every 5 minutes if you prefer. It's not a convenience, it's a limitation at best. You can't claim Mars's max claim more than 3x a day, do the math. Earth however stops ticking once it hits 3000 satoshis at which point you need to make a claim in order for it to start ticking up again. That takes 2.5 hours. So for Earth you need to claim much more. Also as of yesterday, if you have Earth you cannot make a withdrawal. A very fair move which weeds out all the losers. That is an exceedingly inane accusation. Anyone who has earned even 100K satoshi with CWM has spent days fighting smarmy pop up ads and numerous captchas and you call them "losers" because? It'll take 18 days of clicking with Earth just to reach 500K satoshis all the while rewarding CWM with ad revenue and a promise of withdrawal that may never come.
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July 11, 2017, 12:32:00 AM |
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Hmm okay so for Coiner's limited understanding I'll try and explain it a bit deeper this time. Mars awards 35 satoshis per minute (per day = 50,400 satoshis) So far so good??? Okay, the limitation is that the max the faucet can fill up to at any one time on Planet Mars is 17000 satoshis. That requires 485.71 minutes to reach 17000 which is 8.095 hours. For perfection you could go for an exactly 8 hour claim each time which would yield you 16,800 satoshis every 8 hours. This is better because you need a bit of time (20 secs to 1 min) to do the captchas and then nothing is ever lost. If you do it at exactly 17000 each time you have lost a bit since the faucet won't ever fill up beyond 17000 while you have Mars. So 16,800 x 3 = 50,400 satoshis. In a perfect world that's the most you can get per day out of Mars. Now nothing is stopping you from claiming more often and in fact in theory you won't lose my doing so. You just can't claim more than once every 5 minutes. Every other planet above Mars functions in the same way. What you should focus on is what the minute rate is and what the cap is before it stops filling up. Good luck ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 11, 2017, 12:36:54 AM |
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Hmm okay so for Coiner's limited understanding I'll try and explain it a bit deeper this time.
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If you spent half the time you spent repeating that on trying to understand what you're actually trying to argue against, you'd have done something. Try and do that next time, before you embarrass yourself with stuff like "Hmm okay so for Coiner's limited understanding".
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Bitcoin Dragon
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July 11, 2017, 12:50:07 AM |
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Okay kid. Bottom line is nobody is forcing you to trust CWM. You can either give it a go or don't. If you want the easy road there's always the safe traditional faucets like freebitco.in, moonbit, bonus bitcoin etc. go make your 10k a week off them lol and leave this topic to the mature audience.
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Aswin
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July 11, 2017, 12:51:48 AM |
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another successful withdraw 0.003 btc from CWM ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) hash :127b1ecdd038459dc504aa16cacd2c0bbfc39e79b49ec8dc07d750c932d3e50b date 11/07/2017
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Jaerin
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July 11, 2017, 12:59:14 AM |
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I believe his vague idiocracy is trying to say that 3x profits isn't worth the investment. That or perhaps that 50k Sat is too much for withdrawals. The thing he doesn't seem to understand is that saying that you are LIMITED to 3x claims a day is a stupid way to say that you only make 50400sat for 3 clicks and fighting through the nothing ads and pop ups that happen when you do it. That if you trust the site and continue with the process it will pay out 3x with almost no effort at all. They aren't even that invasive of pop-ups. They pop to other tabs and take you right back to the claim page.
The thing is that 50k is fixed so makes sense that it would be an incentive to upgrade further, or not withdraw every time you hit 50k. As you say you either trust it or you don't. If you don't then there really isn't a reason to spend so much time in the thread.
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July 11, 2017, 01:01:09 AM |
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Okay kid. Bottom line is nobody is forcing you to trust CWM. You can either give it a go or don't. If you want the easy road there's always the safe traditional faucets like freebitco.in, moonbit, bonus bitcoin etc. go make your 10k a week off them lol and leave this topic to the mature audience.
Says the guy calling me a kid. How many levels of cognitive dissonance are you on? And yeah, I'm using the "traditional faucets", at least they don't arbitrarily change their rules every other week and I can be certain I'll get my payout once I reach the minimum amount.
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July 11, 2017, 01:08:53 AM |
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I believe his vague idiocracy is trying to say that 3x profits isn't worth the investment. You really should have googled more about that word before dumping it in and embarrassing yourself further. That or perhaps that 50k Sat is too much for withdrawals. When you're done with your pathetic strawman arguments, my actual argument will still be there. The thing he doesn't seem to understand is that saying that you are LIMITED to 3x claims a day is a stupid way to say that you only make 50400sat for 3 clicks and fighting through the nothing ads and pop ups that happen when you do it. That text dump is barely coherent. Rephrase it because your accusation of me saying something in a "stupid" way is clearly pointing your way. That if you trust the site and continue with the process it will pay out 3x with almost no effort at all. They aren't even that invasive of pop-ups. They pop to other tabs and take you right back to the claim page. Wow, did you get paid to lie? The thing is that 50k is fixed so makes sense that it would be an incentive to upgrade further, or not withdraw every time you hit 50k. As you say you either trust it or you don't. If you don't then there really isn't a reason to spend so much time in the thread. It's no surprise that's what passes as "sense" for you.
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