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May 26, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
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Actually I think 3D printers are another very disruptive technology, especially the medical applications.
That's too tame.  Let's consider how they may be disruptive against the nazi forces of political correctness and insane government micromanagement of ouir personal lives.

I've noted showerheads without flow restrictors, designed and printed to provide high output.

The topic of the thread is of course, 3d printed guns.

What else?
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May 26, 2013, 09:49:53 PM
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Who needs China anymore when I can just print those cute little figurines.  Anyway, has anyone considered how many jobs will be lost to these things?

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May 26, 2013, 10:37:22 PM
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Who needs China anymore when I can just print those cute little figurines.  Anyway, has anyone considered how many jobs will be lost to these things?
Wait.....

You mean China isn't going to own us?
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May 26, 2013, 11:06:12 PM
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The topic of the thread is of course, 3d printed guns.

What else?

You can cause a lot more problem by just looking at real world example like this:

http://blackbag.nl/?p=940

You can take pictures of peoples keyrings and print their keys

Stupid 19th century technology caught up by a $600 printer....
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May 27, 2013, 02:55:28 AM
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The topic of the thread is of course, 3d printed guns.

What else?

You can cause a lot more problem by just looking at real world example like this:

http://blackbag.nl/?p=940

You can take pictures of peoples keyrings and print their keys

Stupid 19th century technology caught up by a $600 printer....
Handcuff keys, that's a good one.  I agree the extrusion printer would do it.  It would not likely do 5 and 6 pin Schlage or Quickset style locks, although those can certainly be duplicated by a camera picture.
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May 27, 2013, 07:58:52 AM
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Handcuff keys, that's a good one.  I agree the extrusion printer would do it.  It would not likely do 5 and 6 pin Schlage or Quickset style locks, although those can certainly be duplicated by a camera picture.

Keys is just an examples, there a more items where we trust them because we know the production or sales is restricted, for example police badges on a uniform.
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May 27, 2013, 02:58:25 PM
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Handcuff keys, that's a good one.  I agree the extrusion printer would do it.  It would not likely do 5 and 6 pin Schlage or Quickset style locks, although those can certainly be duplicated by a camera picture.

Keys is just an examples, there a more items where we trust them because we know the production or sales is restricted, for example police badges on a uniform.
Then the GREAT DISRUPTER is ebay.

Hail the Overlord of Distruption!
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May 27, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
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Then the GREAT DISRUPTER is ebay.

Hail the Overlord of Distruption!

Traditional government restrictions involve catching counterfeit/illegal goods at the boarder or clamping down on local production and distribution (sale), does not matter if it's on flea markets, shops or ebay. Silk Road is an example of how to get around it but then still the postal system is the weak channel where packages do get checked (and not always at the boarder).

But if people are empowered to make whatever things at home (with easy to use equipment that you can run on your desk, not a workshop with lathes and such)  without any government control, then that is a whole new dilemma.
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May 28, 2013, 06:26:01 AM
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But if people are empowered to make whatever things at home (with easy to use equipment that you can run on your desk, not a workshop with lathes and such)  without any government control, then that is a whole new dilemma.
Indeed if you have the power to fabricate any spare part simply by downloading a cad from a database its a whole new ball game.
The secondary market would be seriously affected. Example, a washing machine door handle (know in-build failure point) cost of production a few cents sells for 10-20.
The other thing the service centre would not need to store it as it can manufacture as needed. No prefabrication and storage required.
At the same time, will it be the same dilemma as with current printers where you a forced to use expensive cartridges?
Not only for illegal stuff this printers will change the way things are done.
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May 29, 2013, 12:27:17 AM
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But if people are empowered to make whatever things at home (with easy to use equipment that you can run on your desk, not a workshop with lathes and such)  without any government control, then that is a whole new dilemma.
Indeed if you have the power to fabricate any spare part simply by downloading a cad from a database its a whole new ball game.
The secondary market would be seriously affected. Example, a washing machine door handle (know in-build failure point) cost of production a few cents sells for 10-20.
The other thing the service centre would not need to store it as it can manufacture as needed. No prefabrication and storage required.
At the same time, will it be the same dilemma as with current printers where you a forced to use expensive cartridges?
Not only for illegal stuff this printers will change the way things are done.
True.

Another interesting one (There is a reason I pick this particular example).  Car window rollup mechanisms have usually something like a worm gear and a linear gear which work together, along with the motor and the mounting frame.  I used to have some Volvos and every now and then shelled out $350-400 for one of these units.  Of course it was often just the plastic stuff that was broken.

No longer have Volvos, but about the time I switched from them, one of the service managers told me that the newer cars you had to buy the entire interior guts of the door when this problem occurred - some $1500.

So this is an example of "packaging" so as to create a major income producing item, when a tiny subassembly is all that is really needed.  There are many examples of this.
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May 29, 2013, 04:19:12 AM
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Lol they will never get rid of printed guns.
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May 29, 2013, 06:09:40 AM
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It's time to go after civil rights violators, like you, Herr Schumer.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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May 29, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
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It's time to go after civil rights violators, like you, Herr Schumer.
Better, just print ...

wait.... pssst <<don't tell anyone, keep this just between us, okay??>>

....just print up a replacement Schumer that behaves properly and insert in DC...
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May 29, 2013, 11:26:59 PM
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A Schumer that behaves properly (not violating the fuck out of civil rights) would be replaced with an even worse bloody tyrant.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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May 30, 2013, 04:31:46 AM
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When 3D printers could print such idiots as Schumer then it is time to go after those printers! Until then it's nobodys business what I do with items I have unless I start running around and hurting other people.

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