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July 18, 2017, 05:17:49 PM
Last edit: July 18, 2017, 06:00:50 PM by IadixDev
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America really is a shady place. It holds too many secrets that are kept away from the public. I heard rumours that the US is providing ISIS a variety of weapons, may it be guns or bombs, which i think is fucked up considering that ISIS is a terrorist group that continues to invade and destroy countries such as Syria. That's why i dont trust america that much.

Not only ISIS lol they did this many time before, starting with south America Smiley

Peru, lybia same combat Smiley

Yeah, they did the same thing in many more countries, Korea, Vietnam, Middle east and so on. Supporting rebels which are fighting for freedom can't be wrong, even if some terrorists get their hands on the "freedom-weapons".

Fighting for freedom with napalm ? Grin

Weapons & Soldiers never made anyone free lol

Allende was freedom, the people revolution in Iran was freedom, both replaced by merci less war criminals extremist backed by cia .. aka pinochet,  so much freedom, iranian sha so much freedom lol

The so called freedom fight ers in Nicaragua were the most violent psychopathe ever made, even worst than ISIS. All trained and formatted by cia.


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Americas Watch – which subsequently became part of Human Rights Watch – accused the Contras of:[76]

targeting health care clinics and health care workers for assassination[77]
kidnapping civilians[78]
torturing civilians[79]
executing civilians, including children, who were captured in combat[80]
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Human Rights Watch released a report on the situation in 1989, which stated: "[The] contras were major and systematic violators of the most basic standards of the laws of armed conflict, including by launching indiscriminate attacks on civilians, selectively murdering non-combatants, and mistreating prisoners."[81]



In his affidavit to the World Court, former contra Edgar Chamorro testified that "The CIA did not discourage such tactics. To the contrary, the Agency severely criticized me when I admitted to the press that the FDN had regularly kidnapped and executed agrarian reform workers and civilians. We were told that the only way to defeat the Sandinistas was to...kill, kidnap, rob and torture..."[82]

Contra leader Adolfo Calero denied that his forces deliberately targeted civilians: "What they call a cooperative is also a troop concentration full of armed people. We are not killing civilians. We are fighting armed people and returning fire when fire is directed at us."[83]


Yay for freedom lol what else to expect from an organisation who recrute all the nazi lol

Nobody is free until we all are  Grin


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July 18, 2017, 07:38:58 PM
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The real epicenter of the brainwashing terror originally it's still the nazi, more specially the werewolf commando

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf

Werwolf (pronounced [ˈveːɐ̯vɔlf], German for "werewolf") was a Nazi plan, which began development in 1944,[2] to create a resistance force which would operate behind enemy lines as the Allies advanced through Germany. However Werwolf's propaganda value far outweighed its actual achievements.

The nazi were stopped before to really put this force in operation, but I think that's the first time this sort of plan with hard-core subversion, with covert operative to ruthlessly wreak havok behind enmy line with hidden brainwashed ultra violent tactic was used.



This charming crew of "freedom fighter" was lead by

http://Http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Skorzeny

Skorzeny hid out at a farm in Bavaria which had been rented by Countess Ilse Lüthje, the niece of Hjalmar Schacht (Hitler's former finance minister), for around 18 months, during which time he was in contact with Reinhard Gehlen, and together with Hartmann Lauterbacher (former deputy head of the Hitler Youth) recruited for the Gehlen Organization.


Gehlen Org which was mostly the cia at this time.



For me it's really some kind of psychic physics, in term of forces to apply to a human being to turn him into a violent psychopath, I dont think anyone perfected this better than the nazi werewolf.

And where did they find a job after their nazi venture crashed ? Right cia. In charge of south America especially.

Hence nazi being brain architect of "freedom fighter" they got everything from the nazi werewolf. Exactly same propaganda of depending freedom against invader, etc same stuff.

It's not even specially that American are worst or better, but they are the one with kgb who got this "science" and manual to create this sort of massive havok, and complete human disaster with covert para military organisation.

This kind of ultra violent under cover subversive terror group never existed before this.

Middle east dictators are second generation of this, backed either by cia or kgb with those same manuals.

It's not follow the money track, but follow the brainwasher manual track  Cheesy

 

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July 19, 2017, 05:27:34 AM
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The USA def has its secrets but its the greatest empire to exist on this planet which in turns makes people ask this very question.
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July 19, 2017, 06:04:23 AM
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America is the strongest country in the world.america played an important role to maintain the world.thus,they are doing something special for the improvement of the humanbeing and they also working for the development of science and technology.above this reason,I always think that america is positive to this world.

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July 19, 2017, 07:37:59 AM
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I do trust United States of America . There might be Secret Agencies but I think they are for the better purpose.
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July 19, 2017, 07:48:56 AM
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rooting the beginning of united states of america, usa is an indian land before. it is colonized by englishman and other europian race and ousted indians in their own homeland. after they establish their country, they start colonizing other lands like hawaii and philippines. they buy the philippines from the spaniards in the treaty of paris and claim that republic of the philippines is now free from colonizers but the truth is they use phiilippines as their military fortress in the pacific. not only philippines, they also invade iraq and syria for its oil deposits using the term freedom from terorist but the truth is they are the true terrorist

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July 19, 2017, 01:48:44 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2017, 02:31:10 PM by IadixDev
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The best serie i found showing the gist of the mater is "Marvel agent of shield" .

Can look weird, but I watched this serie with great attention, and it's easy to decode the plot.

Shield = cia

Hydra = nazi ( this one is explicit )

The bad guy who turn people in mind less drones is "communism"

And the plot show that shield wanted to prevent hydra from waking up the dark occult force rampant since dawn of time.

The dark portal is maybe gate to subconscious forces (?)

Albeit they managed to prevent hydra succeeding in this, in the end they still got eaten by the bad guy who form his army of drones.

There is even the passage with Tibet with the hidden refuge in the Mountain, where shield saved them from the "communist". Actually dalai lama have been exiled by cia too against china invasion.

Even the heroin who is criminal hacker who seek of her familly history mixed with shield operation. Kinda sound like true story lol

But now there is not even the need to hacking them, all is in the wikipedia Grin at least can recognize they have the honesty to declassify their mess with administration change Smiley

Well it's still hollywood, but I found lot of resonance with the story Smiley

It show well how also cia can recruit criminals, and it's full of internal conspiracy, and probably different factions inside of it too.

The story show that ultimately even if it's full of conspiracy and bad guys inside, what mater is that there are still few good apple who are really dedicated to improve things, and it's them who mater.

And it show how the government administration generally is very distant from them,  and doesnt follow all the internal operation closely, until there is some mess with political repercussion.


There is the part with the android invasion, sound similar to the James bond where agents are replaced by ai, not sure what it's supposed to say.

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July 19, 2017, 03:05:31 PM
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trust? the biggest scheamer. i trust bitcoin.
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July 19, 2017, 03:28:22 PM
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I am a Filipino and I have some relatives living there. Since high school i have heard of rumors that America has a lot of secrets. I even read an article that says America will lead the 666, it said that the CIA manipulated some countries to make their dollar stable and strong, so on and so forth. I don't know if this is all true, what do you think?

I'm a Filipino too. I don't even know if that is true. But for me, I'd rather trust America than China. Because I have also relative in United States. And they are now citizen of that country. They not even say anything in America about that so I think Americans can be trusted.
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July 19, 2017, 03:43:00 PM
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Well the situation right now at America gives us the confidence that we can keep calm for a little while yet.
While Trump is president USA citizens have much more problem in country. So now i trust. When it's all good at USA
they come to share democracy in other countries (read take oil).
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July 19, 2017, 05:48:37 PM
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I think the United States has many secrets, and the United States often interferes in the affairs of other countries, especially when America has an interest in the country.

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July 19, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
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sorry, i only trust myself these days  Grin
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July 20, 2017, 01:35:31 AM
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sorry, i only trust myself these days  Grin



Yes, like they said "don't trust everything with your own eyes". The most powerful and influential country in the world. I know their government is up to something and I have a feeling that it won't benefit us at all.
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July 20, 2017, 04:53:52 AM
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sorry, i only trust myself these days  Grin

Yes, like they said "don't trust everything with your own eyes". The most powerful and influential country in the world. I know their government is up to something and I have a feeling that it won't benefit us at all.

It would be safest if we trust no one. Most people re working for their own interest. Sme with countries. Making allies for their own good and protections. I don't see reason to trust anyone. It is not trust issue it is prevention and creating safetyness, well an imaginary safetyness since I don't think there is.

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July 21, 2017, 01:53:48 AM
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sorry, i only trust myself these days  Grin



Yes, like they said "don't trust everything with your own eyes". The most powerful and influential country in the world. I know their government is up to something and I have a feeling that it won't benefit us at all.

I agree that the United States is the most powerful and influential country in the world. But after the dissolution of the USSR, the Americans have been behaving very arrogantly. They are trying to play world police and invading poor third world nations.

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July 21, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
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From all of the bad things the USA has done, I do not tink anyone should really trust us lol.

We constantly start wars and fund terroists so they can fight some government we don't like. We cause tons of instability.

We do a lot of bad stuff.
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July 21, 2017, 05:05:55 PM
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Yes, like they said "don't trust everything with your own eyes". The most powerful and influential country in the world. I know their government is up to something and I have a feeling that it won't benefit us at all.

I agree that the United States is the most powerful and influential country in the world. But after the dissolution of the USSR, the Americans have been behaving very arrogantly. They are trying to play world police and invading poor third world nations.
Americans have always so behaved and the USSR for them was not a hindrance. Just as they are now and to Russia. It is not a rival for them. Putin understands this and therefore pays Trump loyalty.
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July 21, 2017, 07:02:37 PM
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No, they hide too many things to their people and not because they care about them.
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July 21, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
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USA is one of the most powerful country in the world. I like American song and movies. and I want to go USA but I don't trust United State of America
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For me United States of America want to destroy piece in world and make chaos and world where will be more and more poor pupil and they want make a new world order and left only 300 million people to live.
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