ATB Coin (OP)
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August 25, 2017, 06:48:13 PM Last edit: August 26, 2017, 12:45:21 AM by ATB Coin |
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Gendalf cryptowarlock Wiz some coins please Lol, go and earn some. What is concerning me that there are mostly newbies in this thread who want to make profit, and many will be fooled by this project. This has got nothing to do with serious investing, this is all shady and weird IMO. Just my personal impression, based on my experience here. Be cautious please, never invest money that you cannot afford to lose. I believe 99% of these "newbies" is here just to promote this scam coin with "unicorn farting rainbows" cheers. This is obvious a scam coin and anyone who have few brain cells alive will stay away from it time will tell...time will tell. Who is right - who not. It's no problem to buy Sr. Member or Hero Member or even Legendary at bitcointalk to promote ATB. We want to be closer to our community that's why we are here. Wish you only good luck. How we can prove you that we are not scam? What do you think?
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Gandalf86
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August 25, 2017, 07:42:20 PM |
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Wish you only good luck. How we can prove you that we are not scam? What do you think?
By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this: 1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development. You are failing on even two points, 2 and 3. You are only collecting money. But then you don't emit the coins in one step, but partially while it's already traded on exchanges (first way for you to scam). And, you also said you won't burn the unclaimed coins. Even worse, it will probably be more than 50% of all coins in a PoS system, which is total death to the concept of being trustless or decentralized. So, second way for you to scam. Almost a proof because you're selling something that doesn't really qualify as a "crypto currency" because it's centrally controlled by you, and always has been since its creation. And of course, being completely intransparent and "we will only answer that question to you privately on Slack", no Block explorer, total supply is secret (??) etc. does not help improving the situation.
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ATB Coin (OP)
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August 26, 2017, 12:29:45 AM Last edit: August 26, 2017, 01:41:58 AM by ATB Coin |
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Wish you only good luck. How we can prove you that we are not scam? What do you think?
By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this: 1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development. You are failing on even two points, 2 and 3. You are only collecting money. But then you don't emit the coins in one step, but partially while it's already traded on exchanges (first way for you to scam). And, you also said you won't burn the unclaimed coins. Even worse, it will probably be more than 50% of all coins in a PoS system, which is total death to the concept of being trustless or decentralized. So, second way for you to scam. Almost a proof because you're selling something that doesn't really qualify as a "crypto currency" because it's centrally controlled by you, and always has been since its creation. And of course, being completely intransparent and "we will only answer that question to you privately on Slack", no Block explorer, total supply is secret (??) etc. does not help improving the situation. Gandalf86, people trust at what they trust. Our cryptocurrency isn't ordinary from the first steps. We are trying to bring easy and worthy alternative instead of traditional processing centers of financial payments. After official launching and exchanges listing value of ATB will be regulated only by supply and demand. There are too much players at this market but we have some obvious advantages which helps us to belive that we can become biger and biger as a company. We are an international solid and official team and we are working hard to make ATB Coin stronger and more stable every day. Growth and scaling of ATB Coin are our main goals now and all investments will be used on them. Therefore we will help you to earn money and be in trend. Please wait for the official launching. and please don't forget about our Telegram chat and Slack. Online support will help you with a pleasure! Also you can add us by Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, watch ATB Coin YouTube channel or visit our Website and view Whitepaper or legal documentation.
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ATB Coin (OP)
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August 26, 2017, 12:33:46 AM |
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The Final Round of ATB Coin ICO has begun : Receive a 10% BonusAugust 25th, third and final round of the ATB Coin ICO has begun, it will last until the official launching of the blockchain network which scheduled at September 1st, 2017. You have less then a week to invest in ATB at favorable terms! This stage investors will receive a 10% investment bonus at their account During the final round of the ATB Coin ICO users have the opportunity to get know about the functions of the quick multicurrency wallet and ATB Coin wallet which beta is available now. People who have invested 100 ATB or more are able to replenish their investments by participating in the Bounty Hunting. At that moment, more than 5,700 people contributed in ATB Coin development. Join a rapidly growing number of investors and within a week you will be able to use one of the most fastest and reliable payment system in the world! Please don't forget about our Telegram chat and Slack. Online support will help you with a pleasure! Also you can add us by Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, watch ATB Coin YouTube channel or visit our Website and view Whitepaper or legal documentation.
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Gandalf86
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August 26, 2017, 06:15:23 AM Last edit: August 26, 2017, 02:56:39 PM by Gandalf86 |
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So, you agree that I'm right? Not a single word against my arguments. August 25th, third and final round of the ATB Coin ICO has begun, it will last until the official launching of the blockchain network which scheduled at September 1st, 2017.
And this is the funniest part of all: HOW can you possibly have an "official launch of the blockchain network" when you are already selling the coins, sending them to people, letting them stake and have it traded on exchanges? I mean you said you would not make a new chain. So what exactly is going to be launched then, that isn't running already? You are just repeating the words from legit ICOs here, without having any substance in it.
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RSA1
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August 26, 2017, 08:49:47 AM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge.
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ATB Coin (OP)
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August 26, 2017, 01:53:18 PM |
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So, you agree that I'm right? Not a single word against my arguments. August 25th, third and final round of the ATB Coin ICO has begun, it will last until the official launching of the blockchain network which scheduled at September 1st, 2017.
And this is the funniest part of all: HOW can you possibly have an "official launch of the blockchain network" when you are already selling the coins, sending them to people, letting them stake and have it traded on exchanges? I mean you said you would not make a new chain. So what exactly is going to be launched then, that isn't running already? You are just repeating the words from legit ICOs here, without having any substance in it. Hello,Gandalf86. Why are you talking about trading? We will post list of exchanges with ATB only at september 1st. Now you can buy ATB at our website and at dabtc.com.
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Gandalf86
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August 26, 2017, 02:58:05 PM |
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Hello,Gandalf86. Why are you talking about trading? We will post list of exchanges with ATB only at september 1st. Now you can buy ATB at our website and at dabtc.com.
Eh, yes you are right in that regard, sorry. I confused it with DeepOnion, which is another shady coin that suffers from a similar issue. This one isn't trading yet.
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oldloco
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August 26, 2017, 06:50:36 PM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support
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ATB Coin (OP)
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August 26, 2017, 08:35:26 PM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Hello. Please write your technical/financial questions here or in PM? I ll send it to devs. Whom from our team you want to know?
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August 27, 2017, 11:03:18 AM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Give this guy some hugs...maybe he is so angry because of that? Or maybe toilet seats are you favorite dreams
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PhilMorrison1
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August 27, 2017, 11:20:57 AM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Give this guy some hugs...maybe he is so angry because of that? Or maybe toilet seats are you favorite dreams Eah Or introduce this geek to any girl, I ll bet that he become happier
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🌟 COMSA ICO: 10/02/17 🌟
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August 27, 2017, 11:31:56 AM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Give this guy some hugs...maybe he is so angry because of that? Or maybe toilet seats are you favorite dreams Eah Or introduce this geek to any girl, I ll bet that he become happier Introduce me better
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August 27, 2017, 11:40:23 AM |
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oldloco
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August 27, 2017, 02:57:49 PM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Give this guy some hugs...maybe he is so angry because of that? Or maybe toilet seats are you favorite dreams Eah Or introduce this geek to any girl, I ll bet that he become happier You have to post more positive/coin unrelated post from troll accounts I can't wait for "official launch" of this "coin" Than I believe I will see much more real post's from angry/screwed investors Peace
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PhilMorrison1
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August 27, 2017, 04:24:58 PM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Give this guy some hugs...maybe he is so angry because of that? Or maybe toilet seats are you favorite dreams Eah Or introduce this geek to any girl, I ll bet that he become happier You have to post more positive/coin unrelated post from troll accounts I can't wait for "official launch" of this "coin" Than I believe I will see much more real post's from angry/screwed investors Peace I'm real and I'm investor too. I'm not angry, but you... peace
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oldloco
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August 27, 2017, 09:14:09 PM |
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By not keeping your hands on people's faith. Legit ICOs are a "one-step" procedure because once the funds are distributed across the blockchain, no single person can control it any more. That's the main point of blockchain technology, that it's trustless. In order to achieve this state, ALL legit ICOs run like this:
1. Collect the money 2. Emit the coins (in one step) 3. Optionally, burn the coins that haven been sold. Result: No way for the creator to scam, except by abandoning the project, in which case someone else could continue development.
BTW, very popular NEO coin. They issued 50 millions coins, but 50% are owned by the creators. And no one complains. So, only 25 millions will circulating in public blockchain and available for everybody. There is also one serious issue with NEO: As a consensus NEO uses a simple BFT algorithm, which is commonly used in private blockchains. How such an algorithm can work on a public blockchains? ( Because it requires trusted nodes ). This is aceptable in a private blockchain, where the nodes are known, assigned from the outside and do not have the motivation to cheat the system, but in public lockouts, by default, it is considered that any node can be an unfair "player". But everyone is happy with NEO and it continue to be very popular, trade volume is huge. You comparing toilet seat (ATB) and spacecraft (NEO). NEO dev have real name and decent background. While ATB have "random dude sailing and telling the OMG story" in YT and "dev" that refuses answer to any legit technical/financial question in here, neither does he want to introduce himself in person. He just farting rainbows how good coin is and thanks all for support Give this guy some hugs...maybe he is so angry because of that? Or maybe toilet seats are you favorite dreams Eah Or introduce this geek to any girl, I ll bet that he become happier You have to post more positive/coin unrelated post from troll accounts I can't wait for "official launch" of this "coin" Than I believe I will see much more real post's from angry/screwed investors Peace I'm real and I'm investor too. I'm not angry, but you... peace I adore your stupidity or greed... There was many legit technical/logical questions asked in here and ALL of them was ignored by "dev". Yet you think it's all good in da hood???
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oldloco
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August 27, 2017, 09:17:00 PM |
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cha cha cha
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