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June 28, 2017, 03:39:10 PM |
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Homeless? Paper wallets? How do you even want to start explaining to them? I am sure most of them would think you just finish rolling some pots! Instead, if you feel you want to do some charity, and you have enough to go around, why not just build a homeless shelter and give them some token to take care of themselves monthly. They have a lot to worry about than trying to understand what bitcoin is all about.
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June 28, 2017, 03:47:58 PM |
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Both situation are really possible. There are homeless people which is not that innocent. Most of them are smart tho not so wise in a way however when they are being thought eventually they'll learn
Not a few homeless people who have above average intelligence they just do not have a decent shelter but actually their minds are smart because of a very high curiosity, and if a homeless person gets a bitcoin paper wallet but they do not know how to use it but I'm sure they Must learn to let them know everything about bitcoin. And that will be the question of how they can use the internet while their daily life is very simple.
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June 28, 2017, 04:35:42 PM |
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I think they need food, water, clothes and shelter as well as some love, care, attention and maybe some discipline more than they need some satoshis. Maybe if you have some Bitcoin and you feel a little bit generous, just convert your cryptocurrency into fiat money and hand it to a reputable agency handling a program for the homeless people.
We can use cryptocurrency for some humanitarian projects but not directly involving giving them some amount of cryptocurrency as it can surely just be wasted. In fact, even giving them fiat money can only be helping short-term as it will not help them stand on their own feet and be independent again.
Our society can already be considered as abundant except for places suffering from conflict and government corruption but for many regions around the world food production and wealth creation have already been revolutionized. Yet we are still having poor and homeless people -- I think it has become a curse for our modern world so that in the face of abundance we still have people who are not getting a part of it.
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Juggy777
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June 28, 2017, 04:43:43 PM |
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin? would they learn it? maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem
who wants to join me doing this
we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
If you hand a paper wallet without a private key what use will it be? Secondly it's not easy for every one, to know about Bitcoins. I like your concept but if you will just give them a wallet without taking any time to explain them then it's a waste, if you are keen then I would suggest take time and explain them, if not write a short line, how they can benefit from it, otherwise we shall loose precious Bitcoins. Also have you started your idea?
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June 28, 2017, 08:09:10 PM |
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If anyone would even tip an homeless man with paper wallet, then be sure to provide him with the necessary details on how to redeem it because without that, its just another worthless paper and also its not going to be about tipping but enough amount to change his situation because giving him a $10 tip might not do anything considering the stress of redemption and the miners fees to be paid in other to get it converted into cash might outweigh the benefit of just giving him the $10 note.
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South Park
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June 28, 2017, 10:15:59 PM |
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin? would they learn it? maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem
who wants to join me doing this
we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
This sounds like a bad idea, for many reasons, first do the homeless know what you are talking about? I have known people that dig technology and most of them do not know anything about bitcoin, so what are the chances someone living in the street does? Then I would not recommend donating money since some may try to buy something illegal with it, you could donate food or clothes but not money.
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June 28, 2017, 10:36:26 PM |
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Fuck this. Most homeless are either too drug-addled or too mentally ill to even comprehend the significance of a paper wallet of anything. Handing out money to bums is a bad idea anyway. They'll just drink it up or otherwise squander it. No sense in that.
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June 28, 2017, 10:46:46 PM |
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we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
I thought US is the land of dreams ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i am not sure why there are more homeless people in US but i am not sure whether the so called homeless could understand what a paper wallet is,let alone will they understand what bitcoin is,you can hand out fiat rather than giving out bitcoin paper wallets,never complicate things with the poor people,make sure that they can understand what you are handing out rather than doing a publicity stunt. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 29, 2017, 12:09:38 AM |
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Too much homelessness is driven by addiction and mental illness for paper-wallet handouts to be claimed at any significant rate. Those most likely to lay claim to the funds therein would be the people who, after a day of panhandling, drive home to the houses that they pretend not to have during the day. College students would be a better target group. Given their average debt, they are also almost surely poorer ( if only on paper ).
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June 29, 2017, 12:53:46 AM |
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin? would they learn it? maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem
who wants to join me doing this
we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
No, it won't work. If someone is homeless on the world these days there is some problem with this person... Familiar issues, drugs issues, alcohol issues, gambling issues and it's not with Bitcoins that you will save their lifes. These people won't manage well the coins and will waste it very fast. If money was the solution for them they would be rich by saving all the tips they earn every day (they have food, and drinks for free), specially in the USA where you say there are more homeless people in the world... What would work better is if you give them some job, tasks to be completed, so you can reward them with BTCs for their job.
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June 29, 2017, 01:11:42 AM |
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homeless dont use bitcoin
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June 29, 2017, 01:28:39 AM |
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I'd rather donate to charitable institutions or non-government organizations than give pittance to the homeless. Because giving money to the homeless on an everyday basis is like encouraging them to continue with that way of life. There are many other ways you can help them, if that is what you really intend to do, but letting them depend on dole outs might not be the wisest of ideas.
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June 29, 2017, 01:32:41 AM |
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin? would they learn it? maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem
who wants to join me doing this
we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
Is it useless ? I mean, the homeless can't even afford a computer and maybe they don't know about bitcoin too. They already so hard on living and they need to learn a new thing like bitcoin ? I thing they will refuse it, just give them money lol.
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June 29, 2017, 01:43:09 AM |
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imho, thats not a great idea, for him its just a peice of paper, and in current times he prolly doesnt even know what to do with it, so either he will loose it or if sombody knows what the paper wallet is , then without knowing the amount in his wallet, someone might steal it from him or exchange it for real cash., if you really wanna help , why not give them, what they really want like food, cash, some clothes.
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June 29, 2017, 02:11:25 AM |
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No that's not a good idea. Using those coins needs: a) a computer b) with internet access c) knowledge how to redeem it. Literally 98% of them would just coil it around and have fun. The remaining 2% would resell that "piece of paper" if they know it has value. Want to help ? Do it in a reasonable way. ــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــ One line that caught my attention though is this : who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
Why would those so called "whales" go through that painful process of sending small amounts to new addresses, get the keys of each of them onto paper AND on a DAILY basis !! Too much work while they could just donate to a charity or give them cash on their way to work.
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June 29, 2017, 02:22:37 AM |
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin? would they learn it? maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem
who wants to join me doing this
we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
Its pretty nice that you have this kind of concern for homeless people but we should really be realistic here.We might mold or create programmers or whatsoever on those people but giving them bitcoin paper wallet would be somehow useless since they dont have much idea on what would they do on those papers since they do have lack of knowledge on it and also how they gonna engage if they dont have the money to sustain? Being practical and avoiding too much hassled better simply give them local fiat since we can spread bitcoin awareness on more simplier things.
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June 29, 2017, 02:25:16 AM |
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It looks good idea and your thoughts are amazing BUT the thing is if people are homeless then how would they know about bitcoin use. They might be having other problems like solving issue of food and drinking water for the day? May be how to get shelter while it's cold and raining. You can't just donate high tech toy to such people and imagine that they will become pro in it and use it for better future. It will need big efforts than that. Better buy food and water for them.
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June 29, 2017, 05:42:16 AM |
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ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin? would they learn it? maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem
who wants to join me doing this
we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis
Instead of handing over paper wallets to an homeless man who would probably use it to wrap weed to smoke or use it for something less worth the value, why not just convert the bitcoin into cash and donate to his life to make it more meaningful. Even majority of people here if given paper wallet will still have to carry out some readings to know how to go about it not to talk of those individuals who would probably be hearing it for the first time and the stress of redemption might even be too stressful on them. Yes,if you want to help them tuely,just convert the bitcoins into cash and give it to them.If you want to make them familiar with bitcoins,then you could explain them about bitcoins since there is a chines proverb,"Instead of giving a fish to the needy,better teach him how to catch a fish"
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June 29, 2017, 05:50:41 AM |
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Fuck this. Most homeless are either too drug-addled or too mentally ill to even comprehend the significance of a paper wallet of anything. Handing out money to bums is a bad idea anyway. They'll just drink it up or otherwise squander it. No sense in that.
Yikes, not all homeless people are bums and drunks and drug addicts. ^grrrrrr^ I help out at a homeless shelter every second Saturday and I see whole families without a roof over their head, because they either lost their jobs or they ran into financial difficulty because someone in their family could not afford health insurance and they had to sell their house to pay for medical bills. So STFU if you have not dealt with these people and shared their misery. OP, Do what you need to do to help these people, because some people judge them without knowing their personal circumstances. ^grrrrrrr^
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June 29, 2017, 06:07:24 AM |
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They will lose most of the tips in transaction fees so instead of filing the pockets of miners you can just give them cash ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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