Tipping homeless people with Bitcoin paper wallets

[Red-Apple]

2. to rebut red-apple: though the homeless may have been rejected from society they can still go to libraries or other places and borrow their internet services

i was mainly speaking locally based on my experience and the situation in my country. where i live there is no "free internet" and libraries don't offer such services!
and besides it is not a matter of if they can do it or not it is how much harder it is to use bitcoin for a homeless person than using cash is!

[Windpower]

ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

First of all, I don't like giving homeless people money. I would much rather get them a meal or a drink so I know what I am spending the money on. God knows what they would use the money for if you just handed it to them. Secondly, there are practically no homeless people that have access to the internet, which basically renders all use of Bitcoin obsolete. Also, I doubt they would have any knowledge on what Bitcoin is and probably no clue on how to use it to buy anything. We haven't reached a point in Bitcoin's life where we can start giving people money in the form of Bitcoin and expect them to already know what it is and how to use it. Maybe in a couple years, maybe never, who knows when we will be able to give homeless people paper wallets, knowing that they know how to, and have the resources, to use it.

[Barcode_]

I think it would be better to give the homeless people with either fiat money or food, it is much better than giving them bitcoin paper wallets as I think they might not even know what is bitcoin in the first place. Even if they do knew about bitcoin, it still requires them to have some knowledge to exchange the bitcoins into fiat money, and it would not be an easy task for them.

[BitcoinHodler]

giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!

[lighpulsar07]

ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

i think it's impossible because of the these reasons:
1. they don't know anything about bitcoin or any technology stuff because they can't afford to buy a smartphone.
2. even though someone gave bitcoin they know how to turn it into cash they don't have a bank account to receive their money.
So, it's better to give them a fiat and even a food to help them to satisfy their daily need atleast for once.
 

[emberbekas]

Give homeless a paper wallet will require them to learn how to use it properly and for sure, to learn something they will need another money. Since homeless needs something faster to use, cash or foods, gave them a paper wallet is not a good choice to make.

[2girls]

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved.  We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool. 

[2girls]

Also Those that cannot sppport themselves in the animal kingdoem die and that is the place that humans need to get back to, we are destroying who we are and we are destroying the future.

[franky1]

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved.  We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.  

there is a saying 'your only 3 missed mortgage repayments away from being homeless'
seems like your the kind of person that if someone cant pay a mortgage they should die....

im guessing you love how banks work and feel only the rich should own the planet..

i think the original purpose, ethos and ideology of bitcoin is completely lost on you

P.S being rich is not a stronger race.
Kim kardasian, trump, kenye west are not a good/strong gene pool for our future

[Tazmo]

Homeless ppl dont even have phones dude...

[franky1]

Homeless ppl dont even have phones dude...

but they can hold onto a piece of paper. and use a library or jobcentre computer.

the real problem is not technology but ability to convert bitcoin into fiat. (online exchanges need bank accounts and ID / residence checks)

i think a 'foodbank'/cafe/meetup service that accept bitcoin would be better strategy so that the homeless that have been given a paperwallet have a place to go to to use it.

[mastadonballs]

ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

Its purpose is good but we need to think more about this. We should think about their way to use that wallet. How can they use them when they dont even have a house. When they redeem that wallet, it's still hard for them to exchange into real cash. We should work more on this idea.

[South Park]

I'd rather donate to charitable institutions or non-government organizations than give pittance to the homeless. Because giving money to the homeless on an everyday basis is like encouraging them to continue with that way of life. There are many other ways you can help them, if that is what you really intend to do, but letting them depend on dole outs might not be the wisest of ideas.

That is commendable from you but at the same time those organizations are very inefficient, most of the money goes to operative costs, and marketing campaigns, so it is not like they are helping as much people as they could, that is why it is a difficult decision sometimes to decide to give money to charities since you know that most of the money you donate is not going to help anyone.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Fuck this.  Most homeless are either too drug-addled or too mentally ill to even comprehend the significance of a paper wallet of anything.   Handing out money to bums is a bad idea anyway.  They'll just drink it up or otherwise squander it.  No sense in that.

Yikes, not all homeless people are bums and drunks and drug addicts. ^grrrrrr^ I help out at a homeless shelter every second Saturday and I see whole families without a roof over their head, because they either lost their jobs or they ran into financial difficulty because someone in their family could not afford health insurance and they had to sell their house to pay for medical bills. So STFU if you have not dealt with these people and shared their misery.

OP, Do what you need to do to help these people, because some people judge them without knowing their personal circumstances. ^grrrrrrr^ 

I deal with homeless every day.  I wouldn't give any of them any money--especially not bitcoin--unless you had a gun to my head.   And it's not that I don't care.  I just believe money in most of their hands is wasted.   A lot of it goes towards drugs and alcohol and that's pretty hard to deny.  And I'm not even talking about homeless shelter people.   I'm talking about the real bums living in cardboard tents,  shitting themselves.   They should not have money.  And as pointed out,  a paper wallet is useless and cruel if you give it to them.

[Iranus]

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved.  We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool.  

P.S being rich is not a stronger race.
Kim kardasian, trump, kenye west are not a good/strong gene pool for our future

Capitalism encourages greed, which is a negative trait.  It's safe to say that the working and middle classes tend to be more morally sound than particularly rich and/or famous people.  You can say "the rich donate to charity", but the amount that say, Bill Gates lives on is still dramatically higher than any normal person, so he is not generous.  Nor is he responsible for everything that Microsoft has done.

Homelessness can be for a variety of reasons and drugs or alcohol can be a contributing factor, but it's futile to suggest that it has to be the reason or that homeless people are incapable of having money.

The point is, giving paper wallets to homeless people is dumb.  It would be much better to just explain to them ways in which you believe Bitcoin would help them and potentially donate after that to give them an incentive to use it (if that's the aim of giving them a paper wallet anyway).

[HabBear]

ok so if a whale hands out Bitcoin paper wallets to homeless people
would they know how to redeem and use the money or hold the bitcoin?
would they learn it?
maybe some of them would become bitcoiners or even programmers and valuable to the ecosystem

who wants to join me doing this

we need people in the usa, where there are the most homeless people on the planet, who are whales and want to help the cause handing out some paper wallets on a daily basis

How would the use that currency, immediately to get food or smokes or booze or whatever they need? They really can't...unless you handed out prepaid debit cards with loaded bitcoin. The adoption by retailers is way to slow and decentralized.

There was a guy in San Francisco that was giving away bitcoin as a treasure hunt of sorts. S/he would tweet clues about where they left the bitcoin wallet. You can still read the twitter feed here: https://twitter.com/sfhiddenbitcoin?lang=en

It's a great idea, I just think you need to make it incredibly easy for the homeless recipient to spend the bitcoin, after all what they need most is spending power (not bitcoin locked in a wallet).

[gentlemand]

I've seen a fair few pics of the homeless with QR codes and so on. Obviously they'd need certain amount of infrastructure but everyone has a phone these days. I guess you could do cash via localbitcoins.

It's not as silly as it sounds.

[batang_bitcoin]

giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!

Exactly good comparison, how can a homeless man cash it out if he only thinks all the time that if it's not money, he won't be having benefit on it. Better to directly give him a cash or anything that can help him to survive but just like the saying, it's better to teach a homeless man how to fish instead of giving him a fish to eat. Teach him on how to use and earn bitcoin instead of tipping him paper wallets.

[eaLiTy]

They are homeless for a reason and if we would stop helping them they would die and the problem would be solved.  We need to be creating a stronger race and not supporting to broken portions of the race, diluting the gene pool. 

I can understand that it is your dumb opinion,but no one will agree to this,how do you create a strong race if you are not able to show compassionate because humans are known for that and that is the difference between an animal and a human being.You are just a Nazi and i am out talking to you,get a life dude.If anyone wants to tip the homeless make sure that you could do that with fiat currency because it will be more useful for them than getting a paper wallet.

[darkangel11]

giving a homeless people bitcoin instead of simple cash is like giving a hungry person spoon, fork, plate, glass in different shapes and sizes but no food!

Exactly good comparison, how can a homeless man cash it out if he only thinks all the time that if it's not money, he won't be having benefit on it. Better to directly give him a cash or anything that can help him to survive but just like the saying, it's better to teach a homeless man how to fish instead of giving him a fish to eat. Teach him on how to use and earn bitcoin instead of tipping him paper wallets.

Just please check if these are real homeless not some gypsy mafia beggars. Never heard of gypsy mafia? Here's how it works.
They offer work, usually to women with children. They give them transport and housing, in London for instance, and every morning send them on their way to beg. IN the evening they pick them up by car and take most of their money.

Never give beggars money, offer them a meal.