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July 07, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
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p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.

If you sell used 1080ti you will get 60% money back instantly, if you have time to muck around you'll probably get like 75%. Used mining cards will go to bin probably
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July 07, 2017, 04:00:01 AM
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nice man, i ordered mine a week ago and i am still waiting on mine.
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July 08, 2017, 12:41:09 AM
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p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.

 You forgot the "ETH" in that statement.

 1080 and 1080ti aren't good ETH miners, but they rock on a lot of other coins like ZEC and DGB....


 There are NO RX 460 based mining cards.
 GTX 1060 HAVE been getting bought up by a lot of miners (and the pricing has gone very high and shortage has been serious for a couple weeks or so) as they are a decent ETH miner for their CURRENT price compared to CURRENT pricing on most other decent ETH mining cards.

 The new "mining specific" cards do seem to be having SOME effect on pricing though, but it's going to take a LOT more sales for them to bring gaming cards back down to 3-month-ago pricing.



 There WILL be a resale market for the "mining-specific" cards - they're still going to be usable as second cards in DirectX 12 gaming machines, or for SLI/Crossfire usage as a second card, or for GPGPU usage.
 It's not going to be a HUGE market though.


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July 11, 2017, 07:21:12 AM
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anyone found drivers for windows?
i got these 6 GPUs but cannot find drivers for windows 10 64bit   Sad
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July 11, 2017, 09:02:01 PM
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Seriously?HuhHuh Really?HuhHuh

Here`s the magic drivers:
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/120486/en-us


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July 11, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
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p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.
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haha ya the 1080ti is like damn near the best GPU miner money can buy right now Cheesy
these new "miner" cards were because NOONE bought "460" and "1060" so they reused the chips with a rebrand, anyone can see that
or so i thought ;p



If what you said was even close to true, overpriced 1080's and 1080 Ti's wouldn't be the only GPU's there was never an issue with availability anywhere.
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July 11, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
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p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.
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haha ya the 1080ti is like damn near the best GPU miner money can buy right now Cheesy
these new "miner" cards were because NOONE bought "460" and "1060" so they reused the chips with a rebrand, anyone can see that
or so i thought ;p



If what you said was even close to true, overpriced 1080's and 1080 Ti's wouldn't be the only GPU's there was never an issue with availability anywhere.


Spoken like a true 1070 bag holder Cheesy  

dude they USED to be king but lets do the FACTS TODAY:
--they bring in what 2$ a day each? pfft, hope you have a whole house for your 1070's cause your gonna need that many
--they cost 60% as much at 1080ti, but you lose all that cash easy and more building WHOLE new rigs just to have the SAME HASH (even less in total) as 1080ti buyers :/
-- you end up with 25 rigs that cost the same as MY 12 rigs and i have MORE HASH :/  your crazy if you think 1070 is STILL better today.
-- 1070 will have way less resale, tell me, whats a used 980ti go for now, hmm? 400 USD, STILL. whats a 970 go for? exactly., like 200
-- what are your MAN hours worth? jesus ill keep my 12 rigs over 25, thats a headache in itself...
so have fun with your 1070 scramble starting now and over next 3 months, im sitting pretty on buying 1080ti's 30 days ago, ill easily ROI b4 volta, then get GREAT resale if i chose to sell, and buy Volta Cheesy

oh, and whats your arguement? people buy them? people buy garbage here all the time or is that new to you?

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July 11, 2017, 10:59:56 PM
Last edit: July 12, 2017, 08:36:23 AM by Vann
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p106-100 card is exactly same chip and specifications as for gtx 1060, just a little tweaked clock and memory, you may use 1060 but why use it if you can have hands on 1080 or 1080ti,

those guys at nvidia are making us idiots, first they seperated HPC cards from gaming cards and selling them at enormously high prices, now they seperated card for mining, while actually they are same. I am a researcher, and use GPU's for superconducting simulations, I know how they fooled us by selling k80's and m60's.

because 1080 and 1080Ti aren't so good for mining, and all other cards are basically sold out.
LOL

haha ya the 1080ti is like damn near the best GPU miner money can buy right now Cheesy
these new "miner" cards were because NOONE bought "460" and "1060" so they reused the chips with a rebrand, anyone can see that
or so i thought ;p



If what you said was even close to true, overpriced 1080's and 1080 Ti's wouldn't be the only GPU's there was never an issue with availability anywhere.


Spoken like a true 1070 bag holder Cheesy  

dude they USED to be king but lets do the FACTS TODAY:
--they bring in what 2$ a day each? pfft, hope you have a whole house for your 1070's cause your gonna need that many
--they cost 60% as much at 1080ti, but you lose all that cash easy and more building WHOLE new rigs just to have the SAME HASH (even less in total) as 1080ti buyers :/
-- you end up with 25 rigs that cost the same as MY 12 rigs and i have MORE HASH :/  your crazy if you think 1070 is STILL better today.
-- 1070 will have way less resale, tell me, whats a used 980ti go for now, hmm? 400 USD, STILL. whats a 970 go for? exactly., like 200
-- what are your MAN hours worth? jesus ill keep my 12 rigs over 25, thats a headache in itself...
so have fun with your 1070 scramble starting now and over next 3 months, im sitting pretty on buying 1080ti's 30 days ago, ill easily ROI b4 volta, then get GREAT resale if i chose to sell, and buy Volta Cheesy

oh, and whats your arguement? people buy them? people buy garbage here all the time or is that new to you?

Spoken like a typical buyer of overpriced 1080 Ti's, that's also bad at math!

My argument is pretty clear for anyone that can do basic math and it doesn't require any convoluted prognostications. I mostly have RX 470/580 4GB cards that I bought for between $190 to $230 each and two rigs with a total of 9 cards and less than $2500 spent TOTAL on the two rigs. For the money I spent on my two rigs you can barely buy three 1080 TI's alone, which will give you nowhere near the same amount of hash that I get from my 9 AMD cards. As far a ROI, up until this month the rigs were generating $1000 a month and I'm currently well over half way of having the rigs ROI payed off. If I chose to do so, I could also sell the cards TODAY for ~50% MORE than what I paid for them. Try doing that with a 1080 Ti. That just shows you how badly overpriced 1080 Ti's are as mining cards.  I don't have any 1070's, though regrettably I did buy a 1080 for $500 that I use for Zcash before I found out how overpriced they are for their performance. ROI is going to take A LOT longer on that one.

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July 12, 2017, 05:27:13 PM
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If what you said was even close to true, overpriced 1080's and 1080 Ti's wouldn't be the only GPU's there was never an issue with availability anywhere.


Spoken like a true 1070 bag holder Cheesy  

dude they USED to be king but lets do the FACTS TODAY:
--they bring in what 2$ a day each? pfft, hope you have a whole house for your 1070's cause your gonna need that many
--they cost 60% as much at 1080ti, but you lose all that cash easy and more building WHOLE new rigs just to have the SAME HASH (even less in total) as 1080ti buyers :/
-- you end up with 25 rigs that cost the same as MY 12 rigs and i have MORE HASH :/  your crazy if you think 1070 is STILL better today.
-- 1070 will have way less resale, tell me, whats a used 980ti go for now, hmm? 400 USD, STILL. whats a 970 go for? exactly., like 200
-- what are your MAN hours worth? jesus ill keep my 12 rigs over 25, thats a headache in itself...
so have fun with your 1070 scramble starting now and over next 3 months, im sitting pretty on buying 1080ti's 30 days ago, ill easily ROI b4 volta, then get GREAT resale if i chose to sell, and buy Volta Cheesy


 I pull in a good bit more than $3/day with my 1070s, even WITH the widespread coin price drops of the last couple weeks - but for what I've been working on most of the last month, the 1080ti is at least comparable on hash/$ at the prices I've paid for both (I didn't pay more than $400 for any of my 1070s, started moving upscale when the price started gouging).
 1070 pricing has started dropping the last week - looks like the "mining specific" card sales is helping SOME to drop pricing back down on the "gouge priced" cards on both sides of the red/green debate.

 Used 980ti go for as much as they do because they OUTPERFORM the 1070 on almost anything (mining is one of the RARE exceptions, and even there it depends on the specific coin), gamers don't worry about having one card that soaks a lot of power and that's STILL the primary market for GPUs.

 If you build the rigs to be reliable, running twice as many rigs isn't that big of a difference - and it's certainly not going to be MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY GTX 1070 rigs to match the performance of GTX 1080ti based rigs (more like 60% more).
 In my particular case, I end up having to build the GTX 1080ti rigs with FEWER CARDS due to limits on my power infrastructure (a 3 card rig would eat 850+ watts at the wall, which means I CAN'T put 2 of them on one circuit), which turns out to be a good thing from a cooling standpoint as well since I don't build riser rigs - so I end up with the SAME number of rigs, with a *HAIR* more performance, using 50% fewer cards and slightly less power (which is where my 60% estimate comes from since most mining rigs ARE riser-based AFAIK).


 On the other hand, the 1080ti is NOT as all-around good as the 1070 at mining - there are coins it's better at, but except for ZEC they are ALL "small hash" "small cap" coins (and even ZEC is a lot smaller than ETH is).
 It IS going to have better resale value at "this past month" pricing than the 1070, since it never went into "gouge pricing" - if you bought (a) 1070(s) at "gouge pricing".


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July 19, 2017, 08:32:39 AM
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Got mine 12 pcs recently.
Trying to use with nvOC and Biostar TB250-BTC PRO.
What's your optimal overclocking parameters?
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July 19, 2017, 08:51:17 AM
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Hi, Currently i haven't overclocked them yet as my ***** AC unit turned off, I'm currently gaining 8.70$ per Rig ( 6 cards ) with nice hash , waiting for the ac unit so i can overclock them a little bit higher Smiley , whats your parameters ,


As for the Drivers , here you go , Asus mining card Drivers Tongue




windows 10 64-bit
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/vga/nVidia/NVDriver_V38253-win10-64bit-international-whql_20170616.zip?_ga=2.55897323.1746752693.1500454084-1492719790.1500454084



Support page where you can have every OS
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Car
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July 19, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
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I've just started, so, no overcloking yet.
By default it gives ~20MHs for ethereum.
Windows drivers don't support >8 cards. So I'm trying to use nvOC which is based on Ubuntu (remote configuration not working for me currently).
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July 19, 2017, 10:26:07 AM
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I've just started, so, no overcloking yet.
By default it gives ~20MHs for ethereum.
Windows drivers don't support >8 cards. So I'm trying to use nvOC which is based on Ubuntu (remote configuration not working for me currently).
you can run 8 cards on windows if your mobo supports it of course.



About the mining cards I hear people are avoiding them for their low resell value, also I don't see the point paying the same for 470 4g as for 580 8g
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July 19, 2017, 10:52:39 PM
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When is the last time you could GET a RX 580 8GB for under $350?

 I can't remember the last time I saw an ACTIVE listing in that price range.

 Even the MINING RX 470 $GB cards are in very short supply at $250ish.



 Up side - between ETH price drop squeezing profitability to the point that "new rig building" has pretty much stopped this past week or so, and the mining cards starting to get available at least some of the time in small quantities, it looks like we're past the peak on gouge pricing and lack of availability.


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July 21, 2017, 08:38:06 AM
Last edit: July 21, 2017, 09:50:51 AM by Avarets
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80w/-200/+1200 - looks stable, ~70C temp, 24,3 Mhs.
Can you check - is it Samsung memory?
I'm using Linux. Not sure if it is possible to know this info there.
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July 21, 2017, 09:09:50 AM
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You can minning what you want.
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July 21, 2017, 06:17:21 PM
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Interesting. I know some guy over at zotac marketing and will reach out to him. I need one for testing.

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August 05, 2017, 02:38:33 PM
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Hi! anyone have a GPU driver of  ZOTAC GTX 1060 P106-100 6GB GDDR5 192BIT for win 10 64bit?

Thanks!
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