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June 29, 2017, 03:36:57 PM
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Hoping to continue on in the spirit of the original Wall Observer thread. Not moderated. Up to the community if this thread succeeds or not.

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June 29, 2017, 03:55:58 PM
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That was pretty much what caused the last thread to die, and there is already a wall observer thread that has replaced the old one with more people on it. Nice try though. If anything, new wall observer threads MUST be moderated.

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June 29, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
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I definitely prefer this to the new self-moderated one, but the main reason that the old Wall Observer thread was locked seems to be the strain on moderators to remove a lot of off-topic posts in a thread which is not moderated properly by the OP.  I don't see it as likely that this thread will last long if we keep posting off-topic stuff on it.

Could always move it to off-topic if we need to, but I don't get why theymos is against this thread.  It's just kind of a free thread for any vaguely price-related discussion.  IMO moderation should just about skip this thread unless it's something specific (e.g. begging).
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June 29, 2017, 04:11:37 PM
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That was pretty much what caused the last thread to die, and there is already a wall observer thread that has replaced the old one with more people on it. Nice try though. If anything, new wall observer threads MUST be moderated.

I agree. As long as Adam moderated his thread it flourished. It was when his account was hacked and then frozen that it started to go downhill and became such a pain to the forum moderators that they eventually chose to lock it.

I like the way Meuh seems to be handling his new wall observer thread.

I do prefer this thread's title though, except maybe it should mention BTC/USD.

I also think it's very important that any new wall observer thread should be in the speculation folder and not hidden away in the off-topic folder.
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June 29, 2017, 06:06:29 PM
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Will the network effect of the other fork win out, or is this thread's title more appeasing? Stay Tuned !
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I made this thread non moderated because people were already complaining about the moderation at the new (redirected from old) Wall Observer thread. It lacks the spirit of the original thread. I think free speech is more important. After all if someone makes a post you do not like just add him or her to your ignore list.

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June 29, 2017, 09:54:03 PM
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$2600 is the number to watch at Bitstamp. The following chart shows that price is close to breaking out the upper trend line of a triangle that has been forming.



Everyone has heard of the trouble Ether has had the past week. Note that the following chart shows that market share of Ether is declining lately, while Bitcoin share is on the rise.


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June 29, 2017, 09:59:52 PM
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June 29, 2017, 10:36:32 PM
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Hope this one flourishes.
A little moderation might be needed but not the way Meuh is doing, indiscriminately deleting on-topic posts like he did to me.

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June 29, 2017, 10:58:39 PM
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And this is exactly why I fear so much Hard Forks in Bitcoin. Except in this case all these threads are forks that left the previous blockchain behind.

Let's see how this evolves and which one reflects better the spirit of the real WO.

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June 29, 2017, 11:02:09 PM
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It's IMPOSSIBLE to stand with the other one.
Just because there had 90+ posts OP Meuh is already playing the Mad King.
I've got 6 deleted posts!!!
2 were on-topic. 3 were complaints about the 2 deleted and 1 I guess was fair because the meme did not fit the image size rules (although the size rules were only disclosed later).

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June 29, 2017, 11:42:31 PM
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$2600 is the number to watch at Bitstamp. The following chart shows that price is close to breaking out the upper trend line of a triangle that has been forming.



I have a question. Why did you choose the 6h chart for drawing the triangle? I mean... with other timeframes the triangule and its levels changes a lot. Why do you chose 6h chart?

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June 30, 2017, 12:03:27 AM
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$2600 is the number to watch at Bitstamp. The following chart shows that price is close to breaking out the upper trend line of a triangle that has been forming.



I have a question. Why did you choose the 6h chart for drawing the triangle? I mean... with other timeframes the triangule and its levels changes a lot. Why do you chose 6h chart?

Triangle is the same on other time frames. Here is the one day chart:


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June 30, 2017, 12:11:50 AM
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Oh, thx, I guess I was doing something wrong.

So we could still have some sideways inside the triangule and even some downtrend up to 2400 without breaking it?

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happen until the segwit2x issue is absolutely clear how it will go.

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June 30, 2017, 12:42:59 AM
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Oh, thx, I guess I was doing something wrong.

So we could still have some sideways inside the triangule and even some downtrend up to 2400 without breaking it?

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happen until the segwit2x issue is absolutely clear how it will go.

I agree and this looks to be exactly what's going on by now.

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June 30, 2017, 01:10:06 AM
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Bitcoin price action loves to form triangles, we see it over and over again. If not for the uncertainty in the market due to Aug 1 I really think bitcoin  would be over $3300 now. The question is which way will price break out of that triangle: up or down? If I knew the answer I would be taking a position with leverage. But I don't of course, as does anyone. If price breaks up we will either have a fake out, or traders will likely bid the price up to a new all time high.

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June 30, 2017, 01:24:02 AM
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You can now vote on the future of Wall Observer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1993570.0
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June 30, 2017, 02:42:16 AM
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You can now vote on the future of Wall Observer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1993570.0

Thank you!

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June 30, 2017, 08:26:42 AM
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You can now vote on the future of Wall Observer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1993570.0

Seems the forks are the voting.

I agree on Meuh being heavy-handed, but I think no moderation at all gets us back to the post Adam era.

A light moderating hand is probably necessary to keep Theymos happy and leave us with no interference from TPTB.

I wish the old thread could have elected a new mod from within our ranks - fixed period tenure, no right to ban, post deletions justified publicly...

That would keep it 'ours', leave the heavy hand out and maintain the continuance of the most historic thread in crypto.

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June 30, 2017, 08:34:56 AM
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You can now vote on the future of Wall Observer here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1993570.0

Seems the forks are the voting.

I agree on Meuh being heavy-handed, but I think no moderation at all gets us back to the post Adam era.

A light moderating hand is probably necessary to keep Theymos happy and leave us with no interference from TPTB.

I wish the old thread could have elected a new mod from within our ranks - fixed period tenure, no right to ban, post deletions justified publicly...

That would keep it 'ours', leave the heavy hand out and maintain the continuance of the most historic thread in crypto.


Some of the choices offered by Theymos could be somewhat similar to that you are saying. The option of using one of the existing forks is atm one of the less voted choices. For a reason.

And yes, maybe Meuh's thread will be a good one for STRICT ON TOPIC WALL OBSERVING... but that's not substitute for WO. That's something we need a solution for.

P.S.: Post deletions justified publicly is a no-no. That's completely disruptive of the thread, a lot of hassle, and ... well many reasons. The point is that deletion should only be done in such blatant cases that it would already be self-explanatory.

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