0.2 Reputation Loan

[bennett616]

Hello, Andrew Bennett again..... Im the owner of http://www.freebitcointips.co.uk/

I am looking for a 0.2 loan for 1 week to build up rep on this forum. I will pay 0.23 in 1 weeks time. I have paid back 1 other loan on here before. I can provide ANY information that you would need to trust me!

Link to other loan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183314.0

Thank You in advance!

Andy B

[eroxors]

Wow. Relentless.

In the amount of time you've spent trying to scam people out of their money, you probably could have earned at least that much working a regular job.

[GhostDK]

Bennett is a good guy He gives out free BTC to people and is making salsa And besides who the fuck would scam for 0.2 BTC?

[bennett616]

Wow. Relentless.

In the amount of time you've spent trying to scam people out of their money, you probably could have earned at least that much working a regular job.

Ruining my rep and integrity for 0.2....... Come on, do you really think im trying to scam??? Or are you just a troll?

I can provide ANY information that you would need to trust me!

Like I said I can provide ANY!!! information that is needed for you too trust me!

Andy B

[Caesium]

Wow. Relentless.

In the amount of time you've spent trying to scam people out of their money, you probably could have earned at least that much working a regular job.

Any justification/evidence for this accusation?

[bennett616]

Wow. Relentless.

In the amount of time you've spent trying to scam people out of their money, you probably could have earned at least that much working a regular job.

I am looking to do some reputation loans on here to shut people like you up...... as you can see on my website I have 0.32183 in donations for site development........ I CAN afford to pay the loan back!

It would be quite good if you could personally grant me this loan because then I could truly prove to you that I am NOT a scammer in any way shape or form.

Andy B

[eroxors]

Come on, do you really think im trying to scam???

I absolutely think you're trying to scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191284.msg1994550#msg1994550

Why not ask for a loan via. Paypal or sell some things first to build credibility?

[bennett616]

Come on, do you really think im trying to scam???

I absolutely think you're trying to scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191284.msg1994550#msg1994550

Why not ask for a loan via. Paypal or sell some things first to build credibility?

Well I am not scamming anyone, I am here too stay!

Honestly eroxors please give me a chance, you will get the 0.23 back in a weeks time guaranteed! I want to prove myself here and there is no way to do that other than people giving me a chance to prove myself. I will even give you the login and password for my webs account if needs be.

Andy B

[wachtwoord]

I have not investigated at all but to me alarm rings start ringing if someone wants to do a "reputation loan" as it serves no purpose (it won't build trust) and is usually the prelude to a long con.

So the questions I have is: What do you want to use the money for? If the answer is nothing I advise you to cancel the loan as it will serve no purpose to you.

[bennett616]

I have not investigated at all but to me alarm rings start ringing if someone wants to do a "reputation loan" as it serves no purpose (it won't build trust) and is usually the prelude to a long con.

So the questions I have is: What do you want to use the money for? If the answer is nothing I advise you to cancel the loan as it will serve no purpose to you.

I do not understand what that has to do with this? I have already had 1 loan on here which was successfully paid back on time as planned. I am looking to build up reputation on here because the "Scammer" accusations annoy me and dont look good considering I am running a site designed to help Bitcoin beginners.

The answer to your question is nothing. I am not going to touch this loan. In the near future I am hoping to have a game on my website, read these links for more information;

http://www.freebitcointips.co.uk/apps/forums/topics/show/8937769-help-us-to-help-you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196923.0

After brief talks with a few developers the cost of design and development will be around 2 BTC (subject to change) I do not have that much money at the moment so a loan may be needed for that. If I was to ask for a 2 BTC loan now I would be accused of being a scammer.

I have earned around £80 on google adsense, so in a few months time a loan may not be needed, I would rather keep my option open though.

Everything I do is with good intentions for the community and the currency. I am not going to ruin that by stealing peoples money! I understand that it is hard to trust people you dont know but I think I have made a ok input to the community to at least be given a chance to prove myself.

Andy B

[2D]

This doesn't mean I'd lend him my BTC, but I think you guys should cut Bennet some slack. Even Tomatocage has him on the green list.

[wachtwoord]

My advice had nothing to do with him as a person. It was a general advise not to pursue reputation loans as they cost money and have the adverse effect of lowering trust.

See the sticky in this section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75742.0

[bennett616]

Anybody up for giving me a chance? I will not let you down!

Andy B

[eroxors]

This doesn't mean I'd lend him my BTC, but I think you guys should cut Bennet some slack. Even Tomatocage has him on the green list.

I gave him specific instructions that would have given him the best chance at a loan. Instead of improvIng his chances at a loan/credibility, he creates a half-dozen new requests on the forum. At best, he's extremely dense, but it's more likely he is a scammer. My guess is that this loan won't be defaulted on as it's in his best interest to land a bigger loan after a few "confidence" loans.

If he wants his rep to improve, he only needs to stop requesting loans! Then all the threads would drop.

[bennett616]

I have sent eroxors a PM with my personal details to try and prove to him that I have NO intention of scamming anyone. The message included;

Name
DOB
Address
Occupation
College 
Secondary School
Main email

I also have pictures of my Passport and proof or address if that is also needed. I will also add my mobile phone number for you to ring me before the loan is granted if you would like. I will add again I AM NOT A SCAMMER!

I will be willing to send this information to anybody that is willing to trust me and let me prove my trust to everyone on here.

Andy B

[danieldaniel]

Requesting "reputation loans" does the exact opposite.  All it says is that you want reputation for a goal of yours. 

If you WERE legit, you would get reputation by being here for a long time and NOT taking out loans.

[bennett616]

Requesting "reputation loans" does the exact opposite.  All it says is that you want reputation for a goal of yours. 

If you WERE legit, you would get reputation by being here for a long time and NOT taking out loans.

I have not investigated at all but to me alarm rings start ringing if someone wants to do a "reputation loan" as it serves no purpose (it won't build trust) and is usually the prelude to a long con.

So the questions I have is: What do you want to use the money for? If the answer is nothing I advise you to cancel the loan as it will serve no purpose to you.

I do not understand what that has to do with this? I have already had 1 loan on here which was successfully paid back on time as planned. I am looking to build up reputation on here because the "Scammer" accusations annoy me and dont look good considering I am running a site designed to help Bitcoin beginners.

The answer to your question is nothing. I am not going to touch this loan. In the near future I am hoping to have a game on my website, read these links for more information;

http://www.freebitcointips.co.uk/apps/forums/topics/show/8937769-help-us-to-help-you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196923.0

After brief talks with a few developers the cost of design and development will be around 2 BTC (subject to change) I do not have that much money at the moment so a loan may be needed for that. If I was to ask for a 2 BTC loan now I would be accused of being a scammer.

I have earned around £80 on google adsense, so in a few months time a loan may not be needed, I would rather keep my option open though.

Everything I do is with good intentions for the community and the currency. I am not going to ruin that by stealing peoples money! I understand that it is hard to trust people you dont know but I think I have made a ok input to the community to at least be given a chance to prove myself.

Andy B

I have already stated the "goal of mine" in a earlier post..... In the future I may or may not need a loan for the equivalent of around $200 in BTC's. If I was to ask for that right now people would not trust me, and rightly so. Therefore I would like to build up my loan reputation on this forum to show people that I can be trusted to pay back a loan may I really need it.

I have been informed that BTCJAM is "scammy" due to high fees so I would rather use this forum. It is a section of the forum for lending afterall.

Andy B

[wachtwoord]

Okay final try: No-one will trust you just because you paid back a "reputation loan". No-one.

[bennett616]

BTCJAM basically runs off reputation, most loans on there are reputation building loans. It works there, why should it not work here. If I was in the position to loan BTC's to help other people and someone asked for a 3BTC loan, I would want too see evidence of past trades on here. If they had a good few that were paid back, I would be more likely to lend to them. That is the case on BTCJAM.

If I have a record of successfully pay back loans, I will be a safer person to loan too rather than a new account with 10 comments. I am not saying it will prove that I will not run off with your money, but that is where you have to trust me. I have too much to lose if I was too do that. I am here to stay in the community and in Bitcoin. I have created a site dedicated to helping others. I am a moderator on Coin Visitor chat and am on there most days chatting to people and offering a helping hand.

All I can do is promise you once again that I will not scam anyone, ever. I am not like that. I am willing to give away all my personal details if thats what I have too do to prove to everyone that I am a legit person who wants to have a positive input on the currency and community.

Andy B

[anexsia]

BTCJAM basically runs off reputation, most loans on there are reputation building loans. It works there, why should it not work here. If I was in the position to loan BTC's to help other people and someone asked for a 3BTC loan, I would want too see evidence of past trades on here. If they had a good few that were paid back, I would be more likely to lend to them. That is the case on BTCJAM.

If I have a record of successfully pay back loans, I will be a safer person to loan too rather than a new account with 10 comments. I am not saying it will prove that I will not run off with your money, but that is where you have to trust me. I have too much to lose if I was too do that. I am here to stay in the community and in Bitcoin. I have created a site dedicated to helping others. I am a moderator on Coin Visitor chat and am on there most days chatting to people and offering a helping hand.

All I can do is promise you once again that I will not scam anyone, ever. I am not like that. I am willing to give away all my personal details if thats what I have too do to prove to everyone that I am a legit person who wants to have a positive input on the currency and community.

Andy B

Instead of going through all of this trouble, why not just keep participating on this forum and build up your reputation that way? It seems like more people are willing to trust someone they see posting a lot/for a length of time on here rather then someone just requesting a bunch of reputation loans. It might be more worthwhile for you to just forget about a reputation loan and concentrate on building up trust posting here and then if you ever need a loan...you'll know what section of the forum to come to .