GTX 1080 or GTX 1070 ?

[Metroid]

I'm about to meet the dealer to buy 16 pieces 1080. The final price is 9000$ out-the-door
What do you guys think ?

What about the gtx 1070, ask him the price for 16 of them. GTX 1080 at $539 was a good price, for $30 more is not worth. Actually as you are buying many, a final price on the GTX 1080 for $530 a piece would be the deal.

gtx 1070 is 400$ but only 4 available

Get only the 4 and wait for others 1070 to be available, for $400, the gtx 1070 is a much better card.

[business360]

what do you think about gtx 1070 hybrid ? are they good ?

[minerx117]

1080ti : )

[QuintLeo]

Things must be rough where you live if you consider $540 for a 1080 and $460 for a 1070 a great deal. You could buy two of the RX 470 4GB mining cards for $500 or the gaming RX 570 4GB cards for less than that, if you can find them and get roughly 20-30% more hashrate for the same price.

 Nobody is selling the RX 470 mining cards for $250 - the NewEgg postings were mistakes, they don't even have the cards yet - and the rep I talked to was pretty sure they were NOT going to actually sell the things at MSRP or even close when they DO get them.

 If you can get GTX 1070 at $400, GRAB THEM - that's bloody cheap at current pricing, and is the same ballpark they were in a month ago before the started getting impacted by the "mining caused GPU shortage".

 Last time I checked NewEgg (yesterday), for example, the LOWEST they had a "in stock" GTX 1070 listed at was well over $500, and most were $600-$800 of the VERY FEW IN STOCK options they had at all.


 BTW - they didn't have ANYTHING in an RX 470/480/570/580 for under $500 at all, and only 1 or 2 options under $600 - at current pricing the RX line has ZERO advantage in reaching ROI over the GTX 1070.

 Trying to call those cards "$250 cards" is not valid and hasn't been for a month or two now.

[Vann]

Things must be rough where you live if you consider $540 for a 1080 and $460 for a 1070 a great deal. You could buy two of the RX 470 4GB mining cards for $500 or the gaming RX 570 4GB cards for less than that, if you can find them and get roughly 20-30% more hashrate for the same price.

 Nobody is selling the RX 470 mining cards for $250 - the NewEgg postings were mistakes, they don't even have the cards yet - and the rep I talked to was pretty sure they were NOT going to actually sell the things at MSRP or even close when they DO get them.

 If you can get GTX 1070 at $400, GRAB THEM - that's bloody cheap at current pricing, and is the same ballpark they were in a month ago before the started getting impacted by the "mining caused GPU shortage".

 Last time I checked NewEgg (yesterday), for example, the LOWEST they had a "in stock" GTX 1070 listed at was well over $500, and most were $600-$800 of the VERY FEW IN STOCK options they had at all.


 BTW - they didn't have ANYTHING in an RX 470/480/570/580 for under $500 at all, and only 1 or 2 options under $600 - at current pricing the RX line has ZERO advantage in reaching ROI over the GTX 1070.

 Trying to call those cards "$250 cards" is not valid and hasn't been for a month or two now.

The rep you spoke with is incorrect. The mining cards were in stock at Newegg and limited to one per person for $260 for the Samsung cards and $250 for the non-Samsung version. They are still listed on the website and you can sign up to be notified when they come back in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202283

This morning Newegg also had Nvidia 1070's for $399.99 and others at $429.99, limited to one per person. Several places have had the regular RX 570 4GB cards at less than $250 over the past week. You need to act fast because they sell out quick.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570/

[business360]

Things must be rough where you live if you consider $540 for a 1080 and $460 for a 1070 a great deal. You could buy two of the RX 470 4GB mining cards for $500 or the gaming RX 570 4GB cards for less than that, if you can find them and get roughly 20-30% more hashrate for the same price.

 Nobody is selling the RX 470 mining cards for $250 - the NewEgg postings were mistakes, they don't even have the cards yet - and the rep I talked to was pretty sure they were NOT going to actually sell the things at MSRP or even close when they DO get them.

 If you can get GTX 1070 at $400, GRAB THEM - that's bloody cheap at current pricing, and is the same ballpark they were in a month ago before the started getting impacted by the "mining caused GPU shortage".

 Last time I checked NewEgg (yesterday), for example, the LOWEST they had a "in stock" GTX 1070 listed at was well over $500, and most were $600-$800 of the VERY FEW IN STOCK options they had at all.


 BTW - they didn't have ANYTHING in an RX 470/480/570/580 for under $500 at all, and only 1 or 2 options under $600 - at current pricing the RX line has ZERO advantage in reaching ROI over the GTX 1070.

 Trying to call those cards "$250 cards" is not valid and hasn't been for a month or two now.

The rep you spoke with is incorrect. The mining cards were in stock at Newegg and limited to one per person for $260 for the Samsung cards and $250 for the non-Samsung version. They are still listed on the website and you can sign up to be notified when they come back in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202283

This morning Newegg also had Nvidia 1070's for $399.99 and others at $429.99, limited to one per person. Several places have had the regular RX 570 4GB cards at less than $250 over the past week. You need to act fast because they sell out quick.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570/

these are 4gb cards. you can find 4gb anywhere. for mining, ideally would be 8gb at least. today i bought 16 evga 1080, i'll post later how they perform.
I noticed amazon sells 1080 cheaper than 1070. Suppose you find 1070 and 1080 at the same price, which one would you buy ?

[Vann]

Things must be rough where you live if you consider $540 for a 1080 and $460 for a 1070 a great deal. You could buy two of the RX 470 4GB mining cards for $500 or the gaming RX 570 4GB cards for less than that, if you can find them and get roughly 20-30% more hashrate for the same price.

 Nobody is selling the RX 470 mining cards for $250 - the NewEgg postings were mistakes, they don't even have the cards yet - and the rep I talked to was pretty sure they were NOT going to actually sell the things at MSRP or even close when they DO get them.

 If you can get GTX 1070 at $400, GRAB THEM - that's bloody cheap at current pricing, and is the same ballpark they were in a month ago before the started getting impacted by the "mining caused GPU shortage".

 Last time I checked NewEgg (yesterday), for example, the LOWEST they had a "in stock" GTX 1070 listed at was well over $500, and most were $600-$800 of the VERY FEW IN STOCK options they had at all.


 BTW - they didn't have ANYTHING in an RX 470/480/570/580 for under $500 at all, and only 1 or 2 options under $600 - at current pricing the RX line has ZERO advantage in reaching ROI over the GTX 1070.

 Trying to call those cards "$250 cards" is not valid and hasn't been for a month or two now.

The rep you spoke with is incorrect. The mining cards were in stock at Newegg and limited to one per person for $260 for the Samsung cards and $250 for the non-Samsung version. They are still listed on the website and you can sign up to be notified when they come back in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202283

This morning Newegg also had Nvidia 1070's for $399.99 and others at $429.99, limited to one per person. Several places have had the regular RX 570 4GB cards at less than $250 over the past week. You need to act fast because they sell out quick.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570/

these are 4gb cards. you can find 4gb anywhere. for mining, ideally would be 8gb at least. today i bought 16 evga 1080, i'll post later how they perform.
I noticed amazon sells 1080 cheaper than 1070. Suppose you find 1070 and 1080 at the same price, which one would you buy ?

That is not true. The Dag file won't be even close to 4GB until 2019 and the diffrence in hashrate between the the 4GB and 8GB is less than 1 MH/s. In fact two of the Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4GB cards that I bought for $190 each less than 3 weeks ago will do over 29 MH/s and I have 8GB cards that only do 28 MH/s. Just because you think it's a good deal to buy overpriced cards for the performance they have in mining compared to ther cards doesen't mean they are a good deal. The fact that you would buy 16 1080's without even knowing how they perform in mining only shows you don't have a clue.

[SubZer0]

Things must be rough where you live if you consider $540 for a 1080 and $460 for a 1070 a great deal. You could buy two of the RX 470 4GB mining cards for $500 or the gaming RX 570 4GB cards for less than that, if you can find them and get roughly 20-30% more hashrate for the same price.

 Nobody is selling the RX 470 mining cards for $250 - the NewEgg postings were mistakes, they don't even have the cards yet - and the rep I talked to was pretty sure they were NOT going to actually sell the things at MSRP or even close when they DO get them.

 If you can get GTX 1070 at $400, GRAB THEM - that's bloody cheap at current pricing, and is the same ballpark they were in a month ago before the started getting impacted by the "mining caused GPU shortage".

 Last time I checked NewEgg (yesterday), for example, the LOWEST they had a "in stock" GTX 1070 listed at was well over $500, and most were $600-$800 of the VERY FEW IN STOCK options they had at all.


 BTW - they didn't have ANYTHING in an RX 470/480/570/580 for under $500 at all, and only 1 or 2 options under $600 - at current pricing the RX line has ZERO advantage in reaching ROI over the GTX 1070.

 Trying to call those cards "$250 cards" is not valid and hasn't been for a month or two now.

The rep you spoke with is incorrect. The mining cards were in stock at Newegg and limited to one per person for $260 for the Samsung cards and $250 for the non-Samsung version. They are still listed on the website and you can sign up to be notified when they come back in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202283

This morning Newegg also had Nvidia 1070's for $399.99 and others at $429.99, limited to one per person. Several places have had the regular RX 570 4GB cards at less than $250 over the past week. You need to act fast because they sell out quick.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570/

these are 4gb cards. you can find 4gb anywhere. for mining, ideally would be 8gb at least. today i bought 16 evga 1080, i'll post later how they perform.
I noticed amazon sells 1080 cheaper than 1070. Suppose you find 1070 and 1080 at the same price, which one would you buy ?

That is not true. The Dag file won't be even close to 4GB until 2019 and the diffrence in hashrate between the the 4GB and 8GB is less than 1 MH/s. In fact two of the Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4GB cards that I bought for $190 each less than 3 weeks ago will do over 29 MH/s and I have 8GB cards that only do 28 MH/s. Just because you think it's a good deal to buy overpriced cards for the performance they have in mining compared to ther cards doesen't mean they are a good deal. The fact that you would buy 16 1080's without even knowing how they perform in mining only shows you don't have a clue.

And what if we are on dag 199 with those 4gb cards?
The 8gb versions don't seem effected but the 4gb's will hurt a lot.

[business360]

vann: each 1080 is making about 5-6$ per day. as i said, i'm doing intense 3d programming and i use lot of gpu, i only put them to mine when pc is idle. i think 1080 have better resale value for long term than 4gb cards.
how much are those 4gb making each ? i would be interested to see how they perform on nicehash

[Metroid]

what do you think about gtx 1070 hybrid ? are they good ?

Yes, they are good, people dont buy it cause is just too expensive.

[Bulletdodger]

gtx 1080 ti has almost double the hash rate of 1070, and doesn't cost double.

[Metroid]

gtx 1080 ti has almost double the hash rate of 1070, and doesn't cost double.

gtx 1080 ti is only good for dgb, pay attention that concerning any other algo, a ti and its 352bit does not help much, now if the ti had 512bit then maybe it could have double the hashrate but then again it would cost 999 ~ 1200 usd, nvidia would not sell it as cheap as they sell the 1080 ti which if you bargain can be yours for 650 usd, the 1070 is the better card here hands down if = 400 usd.

[damstr]

gtx 1080 ti has almost double the hash rate of 1070, and doesn't cost double.

I think the 1080 Ti makes more sense long term. After ROI you will make more with it over a 1070 and other coins it doubles the power. The initial investment is almost 2x as much though. I went with 4x 1080 Ti's for my current build of which I am mining LBRY.

[Metroid]

gtx 1080 ti has almost double the hash rate of 1070, and doesn't cost double.

I think the 1080 Ti makes more sense long term. After ROI you will make more with it over a 1070 and other coins it doubles the power. The initial investment is almost 2x as much though. I went with 4x 1080 Ti's for my current build of which I am mining LBRY.

You have a point and you are not wrong or right, everything in life have plus and or cons and that depend on many things, for me, at $400 the 1070 is a better card overall.

[Digitas]

1080 ti is great long term option, but obviously depends on your budget. There are some great deals on used cards so I would suggest to look for used ones, but be careful of faulty cards. Although it probably isn't a major problem.

There doesn't seem to be any major cards coming out from Nvidia until next year. However AMD is releasing Vega cards so I would keep my eyes open and follow the GPU space.

[QuintLeo]

 Nobody is selling the RX 470 mining cards for $250 - the NewEgg postings were mistakes, they don't even have the cards yet - and the rep I talked to was pretty sure they were NOT going to actually sell the things at MSRP or even close when they DO get them.

 If you can get GTX 1070 at $400, GRAB THEM - that's bloody cheap at current pricing, and is the same ballpark they were in a month ago before the started getting impacted by the "mining caused GPU shortage".

 Last time I checked NewEgg (yesterday), for example, the LOWEST they had a "in stock" GTX 1070 listed at was well over $500, and most were $600-$800 of the VERY FEW IN STOCK options they had at all.


 BTW - they didn't have ANYTHING in an RX 470/480/570/580 for under $500 at all, and only 1 or 2 options under $600 - at current pricing the RX line has ZERO advantage in reaching ROI over the GTX 1070.

 Trying to call those cards "$250 cards" is not valid and hasn't been for a month or two now.

The rep you spoke with is incorrect. The mining cards were in stock at Newegg and limited to one per person for $260 for the Samsung cards and $250 for the non-Samsung version. They are still listed on the website and you can sign up to be notified when they come back in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202283

This morning Newegg also had Nvidia 1070's for $399.99 and others at $429.99, limited to one per person. Several places have had the regular RX 570 4GB cards at less than $250 over the past week. You need to act fast because they sell out quick.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx570/

 I had one of the mining cards ON ORDER - and the order was cancelled "as the cards had not come in yet".

 It would be nice if the RX series cards and the GTX 1070s are starting to drop back down towards MSRP - but I've not SEEN that to date, and the availability is still nearly nothing.

[Jackkyy]

1080 ti is great long term option, but obviously depends on your budget. There are some great deals on used cards so I would suggest to look for used ones, but be careful of faulty cards. Although it probably isn't a major problem.

There doesn't seem to be any major cards coming out from Nvidia until next year. However AMD is releasing Vega cards so I would keep my eyes open and follow the GPU space.

Yes
1080 ti is great long term option - but when Vega shows on market - price maybe drop

[damstr]

1080 ti is great long term option, but obviously depends on your budget. There are some great deals on used cards so I would suggest to look for used ones, but be careful of faulty cards. Although it probably isn't a major problem.

There doesn't seem to be any major cards coming out from Nvidia until next year. However AMD is releasing Vega cards so I would keep my eyes open and follow the GPU space.

Yes
1080 ti is great long term option - but when Vega shows on market - price maybe drop

That depends if it can dethrone the 1080 Ti which I don't think it will be able to. If not NVIDIA will keep the prices where they are at most likely. Maybe the 1070/1080 will see a drop.

[dandreark1]

I own 1060's, 1070's, and 1080 ti's.
Saw no value in buying 1080 for the price vs a 1070 for eth/zec.
IMHO 1080 ti is the best card to go with at this point..

I plan on adding more 1070's for the right price sometime soon..

Edit: Just to note, my 1060 rig is one of my favorites.. extremely low energy and stays very cool..for the work it's done so far, at the price. Couldn't be happier.. but this will change with growing diff. for eth

[ibinsad]

Hello,

now i can find 1080 at 50$ more than 1070, the prices of 1070 are really high.

I consider looking at whattomine.com 1080 has more hash in all algo.

So is really better to go for 1080 instead 1070 ?

What about KHash/W ?

What about stability are a 1080 rig stable ?

With signatum i have around 280/299/KH/s with 1080ti and 270 with 1070.