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July 01, 2017, 10:53:56 AM
Last edit: July 03, 2017, 10:23:26 PM by ViceOfBTC21
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Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
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Almost half of Poles are gamblers. Today (July 1) will lock foreign gambling websites

Saturday, July 1 (6:00)

Poles do not avoid risk in the hope of winning. For such applications tend surveys. According to CBOS, last year, nearly half of Poles (49 percent). Participated in gambling. Today (July 1) will lock foreign gambling websites (due to the new gambling law).

Gambling throws into debt.  Nearly half of Poles admit to playing
Gambling throws into debt. Nearly half of Poles admit to playing / © Glowimages

Poles is widespread belief in the possible improvements of their own destiny by winning large sums of money. Eager to participate in sweepstakes and equally often we become partakers of gambling, including those on the Internet.

He has already entered into force new lawgambling, including having Poles restrict access to foreign companies and illegal gambling. Since July 1, websites with domain registry inconsistent with the Act will be blocked by Internet service providers (for users with Polish IP). The introduction of the Act is to reduce the number of gambling addicts Poles, which is now more than 1.5 million.

The severity of gambling control. Checked more than 3 thousand. premises
Officers of the National Fiscal Administration, together with police officers carried out a massive operation control of the premises in which gambling were arranged. They reached 3 thousand. premises, stopped 450 slot machines - said the Ministry of Finance. more "

It is worth quoting the results of CBOS survey. Last year, as many as 49 per cent. Poles participated in gambling for money. Among them, more than half of the gamblers are men (55 percent.). Most often they play people aged 35 to 44 years, and the youngest Poles - from 18 to 24 years.

According to experts, it is difficult at the moment to assess how effective the new law will affect the players, but certainly a large part of them will still be playing - legally or not. Last year, the Poles seemed gambling an average of 223 zł, winning at the average approx. 103 zł, ie by more than half less than the put. Debt resulting from the losers plants can be enormous, and their repayment problematic.

Gamblers becoming a problem for the near family . - Debt gamblers can not think ahead. Most often they borrow in many banks and lending institutions, taking chwilówki a smaller amount. Try to pay off credit loan, which puts them in a spiraldebt . Sometimes we do not take these loans only for the repayment of debt, but in order to continue the game - says Aneta Kaminska-Kocot of BEST SA - the company managing the debts.

There is no doubt that the addicted gambler complicated not only his life but also has an impact on the financial condition of his family. Debt have to repay a huge sum - commitment some players reach even the equivalent of an apartment in the capital. It happens that the wife gamblers take on loans, trying to pay the debts of their husbands, and in the case of the player's death his children can inherit outstanding obligations.

Gamblers will have to be more careful than ever, since, according to the new regulations shall be punished not only those who conduct gambling activities (eg. living room with slot machines), but also the player who uses the services of the living room, having no license or acting illegally.

With the introduction of the new law gambling casino games supported by created for this purpose state company - Totalizator Sportowy SA has also prepared a register Internet domain names do not comply with the new law - those that do not have a Polish license and all foreign poker rooms and casinos. Most of the most popular foreign sites betting bookmakers decided to completely withdraw from the Polish market. (Js)

The register of banned sites you can check out www.hazard.mf.gov.pl.
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July 01, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
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Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.

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July 01, 2017, 10:49:18 PM
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Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.
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July 01, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
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Fiat book or gambling site's rules are starting to trickle down to bitcoin related gambling sites.
So it is important to follow what is happening to this industry in other countries.

No need to be blind or narrow minded top what is going on in an industry that is just operating the exactly same way just with different form of payment then bitcoin casinos do. Roll Eyes
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July 02, 2017, 12:01:22 AM
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Exact same blocking happened in my country last year, government started to block sites, which aren't registered in our country. But it's easy to bypass, we only have to change DNS settings. Also, gambling sites started to create alternative domains which aren't blocked.
But these blockings had small impact. Few sportsbooks started to not accept customers from my country and closed accounts for these who had it previously.

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July 02, 2017, 12:32:44 AM
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Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

I think still there are plenty of people who gamble only with fiat currency and not every gambler knows about bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies. But when like this happen in any country then most of the people will look for alternatives and can find out about bitcoins. It will indirectly help to grow bitcoin demand.
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July 02, 2017, 01:43:32 AM
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Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

Actually I know a lot of people who are trying crypto gambling, but still stand to fiat.

We have a similar situation in Bulgaria 3y ago, but in reality nothing changed for those whom betting was a lifestyle. Yes, maybe few VPN and so on come in line, but nothing seriously. For crypto and fiat betting. Now the situation is that there are 4 legal /licensed/ fiat bookie and by law all others ate illegal. But nobody cares.

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July 02, 2017, 03:45:59 AM
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the more a government tries to restrict is population into a government run lifestyle= the more people will find a way to surpass those restrictions
this is a small win for crypto but a very small setback for poland

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July 02, 2017, 03:57:10 AM
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Was going through news about cryptocurrencies yesterday and heard that a bitcoin exchange gone down and its owner sentenced to 5 and half years jail for laundering money. Many ransomware software use the address from the exchange. The site was taken down by US govt. and owner is in prison now.
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July 02, 2017, 04:02:13 AM
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Actually your government can't  retard gamblers to  visit websites which offer gambling.
There may be various mediams to bypass restrictions. If government bams whole internet in the country, then it is obviously possible for them to stop gambling

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July 03, 2017, 11:11:35 AM
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Actually your government can't  retard gamblers to  visit websites which offer gambling.
There may be various mediams to bypass restrictions. If government bams whole internet in the country, then it is obviously possible for them to stop gambling

I'm not fiat gambler, but I bypassed these restrictions under 15 seconds without VPN's, proxies but changing ISP DNS to other DNS. Now I know why my ISP blocked changing DNS directly on ISP router and I need to set Google DNS manually on every device at home. They knew what they were doing.
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July 03, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
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Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

I see the same. Actually, it is good for Bitcoin casinos. Many of the gamblers which previously played on the closed fiat casinos will be looking for alternatives and a part of them will certainly get to Bitcoin casinos. On the other side, this could lead to higher pressure from authorities on Bitcoin casinos long term.
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July 03, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
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Fiat based gambling sites are easier to track down and government will always keep monitoring their activity, this is why privacy lovers like us love to bet in bitcoin based casinos to enjoy gambling without giving away any of our personal details and without any restriction based on our country of origin and age.  Grin
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July 03, 2017, 02:55:06 PM
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There is no way the government can stop people from gambling online totally, because they can easily use VPN service to access blocked sites on the list, and with crypto-currency gambling sites so easily accessible with just a click on the internet, people can just easily exchange their fiat money into crypto-currency and gamble with it.

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the gamblers is still the gamblers although gambling is prohibited but they always be looking another way to satisfied their hobbies but with these news i think will makes bitcoin gambling sites getting popular in that country because maybe people at there will considering to gamble use bitcoin instead of fiat gambling

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I think it will be a good time to advertise Bitcoin and crypto gambling sites in Poland as the population of gamblers is high in Poland. Though I doubt people will try to understand a whole new system to gamble, Poland's gamblers are crazy so anything is possible.

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July 03, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
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Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.

I don't think anyone should try to bypass this. The house could just ask for ID verification, and you will lose your funds. This is a big problem for fiat gambling, and it's one of the reasons BTC will continue incredibly popular for gamblers, since they should be able to gamble in most BTC gambling sites.

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July 03, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
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Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

poles care Smiley
but in all seriousness:if you have two competing services,for example
and one of the services gets banned or goes bankrupt,the second one is going to flourish,no?
same happens here,polish goverment will make it more difficult for poles to reach fiat gambling sites
some of them will start looking for other means to fuel their gambling addiction
and end up gambling with bitcoins,purchase more cryptocurrency and so on=good for bitcoin and adoption

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July 03, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
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but in all seriousness:if you have two competing services,for example
and one of the services gets banned or goes bankrupt,the second one is going to flourish,no?
same happens here,polish goverment will make it more difficult for poles to reach fiat gambling sites
some of them will start looking for other means to fuel their gambling addiction
and end up gambling with bitcoins,purchase more cryptocurrency and so on=good for bitcoin and adoption
I am not certain about the status of gamblers from Poland but i think majority of the countries does not have a strict rule regarding online gambling but majority of them bans them but people are using it anyway using VPN and lets see whether these fiat gamblers will come to crypto based gambling sites.I personally came to bitcoin based gambling sites because the bank statement shows that i am depositing money in gambling sites and to avoid those i started bitcoin based gambling sites.
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