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July 05, 2017, 12:46:27 AM
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Hi everybody,

This was unexpected...in a very good way. The juxtiposition between present day real on-going science and working on sending humans to Mars with the imagined 2027 ... and that brings up a really interesting question ..


How soon will the first humans actually land here?

We're going to land on Mars in 2027 and the reason is this man is determined to make that happen. His name is Elon musk, he's the CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX.

okay guys, now You've got to ask yourself, can this guy really do this by 2025 or 2027?



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July 05, 2017, 11:50:38 AM
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I think that this is possible, because aliens are flying towards us and we are also developing in this direction, but for the time being we are not able to stay on foreign planets for too long.

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July 05, 2017, 11:57:29 AM
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I don't understand people who agree on such a journey one way. I like the earth. I guess you have to be very stupid to go on this journey. Man misses you even if he leaves in another country and on another planet is probably worse than a life sentence on the Earth.
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July 05, 2017, 12:21:53 PM
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Hi everybody,

This was unexpected...in a very good way. The juxtiposition between present day real on-going science and working on sending humans to Mars with the imagined 2027 ... and that brings up a really interesting question ..


How soon will the first humans actually land here?

We're going to land on Mars in 2027 and the reason is this man is determined to make that happen. His name is Elon musk, he's the CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX.

okay guys, now You've got to ask yourself, can this guy really do this by 2025 or 2027?



I think Yes we can Smiley



Yes I think he can do it but the real question is, will he survive in mars?

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July 05, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
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I don't know if this "removal-trip" is possible or not in such a time.I think that everybody would like a trip like that outside of earth.However I don't think if it's necessary or even possible to move at the Mars.I think we've done too trouble in the earth...
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July 05, 2017, 03:32:13 PM
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Hi everybody,

This was unexpected...in a very good way. The juxtiposition between present day real on-going science and working on sending humans to Mars with the imagined 2027 ... and that brings up a really interesting question ..


How soon will the first humans actually land here?

We're going to land on Mars in 2027 and the reason is this man is determined to make that happen. His name is Elon musk, he's the CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX.

okay guys, now You've got to ask yourself, can this guy really do this by 2025 or 2027?



I think Yes we can Smiley



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I think there are really two fundamental paths. One path is we stay on Earth forever, and then there will be some eventual extinction. The alternative is to become a space-bearing civilisation and a multi-planetary species. There will be movies, lecture halls, cabins and a restaurant. It will be really fun to go. You are going to have a great time.

Elon Musk

Elon's idea of colonization of Mars sounds cool, but a bit too ambitious, perhaps plausible.

There is a lot of politics involved in space exploration. Now the focus has shifted from colonization of the moon to Mars. Both have cosmic radiations, but in terms of gravity, Mars is more like earth so rather than trying to establish a colony in moon, directly exploring Mars makes sense. Apart from NASA and Elon Musk there is Mars One project also (privately funded)

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The Mars One organization has proposed to land the first humans on Mars and establish a permanent human colony there by 2035. Mars One's original concept included launching a robotic lander and orbiter as early as 2020 to be followed by a human crew of four in 2024 and one in 2026. A total of 1,058 applicants from 107 countries were selected.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One

There is a possibility that there might be life on Mars, aliens. In the next few years we may come to know more about this.
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July 05, 2017, 03:34:36 PM
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Calling for a fission mission to Mars is great for inspiring space dreamers, but Russia's planned engine could have practical, near-term applications. Satellites need to fire their thrusters every so often to stay in their ideal orbits (Also, to keep from crashing to Earth). Sokov thinks the main rationale for developing a nuclear thermal engine would be to allow for more of these orbital corrections, significantly increasing a satellite's working lifespan. Fission power would also give probes more maneuverability. "One civilian application is to collect all the space junk," says Sokov. "You are free to think of other, perhaps not as innocent applications."

Russia may have the will to go nuclear, but it probably lacks the means. Rosatom has budgeted roughly 15 billion rubles on the project, which began in 2010 and is scheduled to have a launch-ready vehicle by 2025. That's about $700 million: eyebrow-raisingly cheap for a 15-year long space project. For reference, just the rocket part of NASA's Space Launch System is projected to cost nearly $10 billion.

And those 15 billion rubles don't include the cost of launch, which could be why Rosatom made its 6-weeks-to-Mars announcement last week. "Going public can serve a number of purposes, including getting funding, increasing visibility, things like that from politicians, readers, and others who would like this visionary thing," says Sokov. Rosatom plans to have a land-based test reactor by 2018.

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/russia-thinks-can-use-nukes-fly-mars-90-days-can-find-rubles/
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July 05, 2017, 09:33:37 PM
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Calling for a fission mission to Mars is great for inspiring space dreamers, but Russia's planned engine could have practical, near-term applications. Satellites need to fire their thrusters every so often to stay in their ideal orbits (Also, to keep from crashing to Earth). Sokov thinks the main rationale for developing a nuclear thermal engine would be to allow for more of these orbital corrections, significantly increasing a satellite's working lifespan. Fission power would also give probes more maneuverability. "One civilian application is to collect all the space junk," says Sokov. "You are free to think of other, perhaps not as innocent applications."

Russia may have the will to go nuclear, but it probably lacks the means. Rosatom has budgeted roughly 15 billion rubles on the project, which began in 2010 and is scheduled to have a launch-ready vehicle by 2025. That's about $700 million: eyebrow-raisingly cheap for a 15-year long space project. For reference, just the rocket part of NASA's Space Launch System is projected to cost nearly $10 billion.

And those 15 billion rubles don't include the cost of launch, which could be why Rosatom made its 6-weeks-to-Mars announcement last week. "Going public can serve a number of purposes, including getting funding, increasing visibility, things like that from politicians, readers, and others who would like this visionary thing," says Sokov. Rosatom plans to have a land-based test reactor by 2018.

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/russia-thinks-can-use-nukes-fly-mars-90-days-can-find-rubles/
It is very unfortunate that the people who fly the canal to colonize Mars will never be able to return to earth. Well, it certainly already broke and the first candidates for the flight know about it. But it seems to me that such a mission requires sacrifice.

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July 05, 2017, 10:32:35 PM
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I don't understand people who agree on such a journey one way. I like the earth. I guess you have to be very stupid to go on this journey. Man misses you even if he leaves in another country and on another planet is probably worse than a life sentence on the Earth.
The fact is that we destroy our planet and close that end when the earth Just can throw us into space. Therefore, it seems to me that humanity will need other planets and technologies in order to move somewhere to live. This is the first question and the second question. This is about the fact that the problem of overpopulation of the planet is coming and it will have to be solved somehow. Perhaps this is the answer to my questions.

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July 05, 2017, 11:05:14 PM
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If anyone can do it, Musk can.

I will say though he has a habit of stating (and then missing) very aggressive delivery dates.  I don't hold it against him though, as it motivates his people to get things done!

With luck the the time he's selling tickets 1 BTC will pay your way:)

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July 06, 2017, 12:38:43 AM
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We should send "Chappie" type robots to Mars like this and colonise it from here via Virtual Reality "Avatar" style! We could build things like Minecraft.

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July 06, 2017, 09:49:41 AM
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We should send "Chappie" type robots to Mars like this and colonise it from here via Virtual Reality "Avatar" style! We could build things like Minecraft.

I agree with you. No, really, I do.

Radiation exposure and long term space habitation would be detrimental to human health. Much better to send in state of art robots to prepare base of operations for human operators.

Good idea.

The Space Robotics Challenge is part of NASA's Centennial Challenges program set to award $1 million to the team that can "develop capabilities of humanoid robot dexterity to better enable them to work alongside and independent of astronauts in preparation for future space exploration."



http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/03/20/this-valkyrie-r5-humanoid-robot-is-put-to-test-with-mars-colonization-on-horizon.html
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July 06, 2017, 11:10:36 AM
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It could be possible since today nothing is almost impossible with our technology.  But I do not understand why people would waste time and really lots of money just to go there.  What will happen if he landed on it or have a vacation there.  Anyways, who am I to ask that questioned.  He is super rich and he can do everything he wants because he has money.  It will be a great thing for scientist and people if they can really make another advanced discovery with the planet Mars.
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July 06, 2017, 11:48:24 AM
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It could be possible since today nothing is almost impossible with our technology.  But I do not understand why people would waste time and really lots of money just to go there.  What will happen if he landed on it or have a vacation there.  Anyways, who am I to ask that questioned.  He is super rich and he can do everything he wants because he has money.  It will be a great thing for scientist and people if they can really make another advanced discovery with the planet Mars.

Played Doom (2004), buddy? Mars is not fit for human life and wont be for atleast another couple of hundreds of years.

But with that said, it can be source of immense resource wealth and truly free space for research and development. We could for example experiment with novel approach to nuclear fission without the safety and enviromental concerns present here on Earth. Possibilities are virtually limitless once you leave inhabitated space.
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July 06, 2017, 05:15:59 PM
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Hi everybody,

This was unexpected...in a very good way. The juxtiposition between present day real on-going science and working on sending humans to Mars with the imagined 2027 ... and that brings up a really interesting question ..


How soon will the first humans actually land here?

We're going to land on Mars in 2027 and the reason is this man is determined to make that happen. His name is Elon musk, he's the CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX.

okay guys, now You've got to ask yourself, can this guy really do this by 2025 or 2027?



I think Yes we can Smiley



Yes I think he can do it but the real question is, will he survive in mars?
I'm not really sure, but I hope he can. The journey to Mars is very far, farther than from the Moon. The trip to Mars is a very risky journey, anyone who will go there should be prepared with the possibility of not returning to earth. But I hope he can go home safely.
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July 06, 2017, 09:34:32 PM
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I really hope that this idea will come out. Well, maybe there is an uncertain level of fear before what people can hear who will go to Mars and remain as colonizers. Although the idea of ​​a colony on Mars is very good.

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July 06, 2017, 10:09:17 PM
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It's very interesting question. I think it's going to take much, much longer than anyone's currently predicting and that's if anyone can actually be bothered.

I think demands on public funds on Earth will get ever more powerful. No nation or nations can really justify to their populations the type of expense humans on Mars would require.

If there is a chance it'll come from a public/private partnership and it's going to be many decades away yet. The moon is a breeze compared to a Mars mission.
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July 07, 2017, 05:43:16 AM
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If we wanted to, we could already be living on Mars. The technology to land on & live on Mars ALREADY EXISTS. The reason we haven't yet done so isn't because people are too scared (obviously not) or will get homesick (lol), but rather we do not currently posses the technology necessary TO GET BACK from Mars. If we could get back from Mars, you can bet we would have already landed there a long, long time ago. The cost to develop the necessary technology to get back from Mars is the only thing holding us back, and maybe Elon Musk is the one to solve it. After all he made the first reusable rocket, and is pioneering new technology on a daily basis, so it seems likely that landing on Mars could actually come to fruition within the next decade all things considered.

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July 07, 2017, 07:24:16 AM
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I think that this is possible, because aliens are flying towards us and we are also developing in this direction, but for the time being we are not able to stay on foreign planets for too long.
i am agree if we possible to reach mars next year,maybe in 2027,but i just wanna ask you about alien,did you really believe that alien exist?t=if yes,then what make you believe that alien are exist?
i think Elon Musk need larger spaceship,so its not dram anymore if our colony as human,going to mars and life there.
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July 07, 2017, 10:42:04 AM
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It seems to me that Elon Musk is a big dreamer. I don't think he will be able to quickly implement such a project. Furthermore it seems to me that much would be better if it would focus its efforts on improving the conditions of life on earth.
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