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achow101
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July 05, 2017, 07:44:57 PM |
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Your transaction spends from a very long chain of unconfirmed transactions. Your transaction cannot confirm until the transactions that it spends from confirm as well. However this may take a while and the transactions may also simply never confirm.
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Harry5555 (OP)
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July 05, 2017, 07:51:19 PM |
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So I basically lost some coins there?
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July 05, 2017, 07:55:10 PM |
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So I basiclly lost some coins there?
The transaction will eventually be forgotten by the network. Your wallet will make the CONFIRMED balance of bitcoins available for you to create new transactions with. The bigger concern is how you received those 0.0082134 BTC. The person that sent those to you was either scammed by the person that sent them some bitcoins, OR was trying to scam you. These bitcoins travel multiple times through the "Bitcoin Magic Doubler" scam address. It is very likely that those 0.0082134 BTC will never confirm and will eventually disappear from your wallet when the network forgets the transaction, and your wallet chooses to drop it. EDIT: By the way, you should probably stop using the blockchain.info wallet. They've got a reputation for having quite a few problems historically. Instead, consider any of many the wallets listed at https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
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July 05, 2017, 08:47:11 PM |
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Do you know why only Blockchain.info is recognizing this tx and how is someone able to do this kind of transaction that will never confirm? I already saw one of those "Bitcoin Doublers" using this kind of transaction only visible by the blockchain.info explorer but never got a answer on why is this possible.
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Harry5555 (OP)
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July 05, 2017, 08:52:50 PM Last edit: July 05, 2017, 09:07:55 PM by Harry5555 |
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Do you know why only Blockchain.info is recognizing this tx and how is someone able to do this kind of transaction that will never confirm? I already saw one of those "Bitcoin Doublers" using this kind of transaction only visible by the blockchain.info explorer but never got a answer on why is this possible. To clairfy a few things, first of all yes I am using blockchain, I'll make a switch soon. Second, here is a image of the transaction you and me are talkinga about, as you can see the latest transaction is the one I am talking about 42 usd that I sent that is still unconfirmed. And under that you can see that I recived 42 dollars worth of btc which is a confirmed transaction. And the 20 dollar under that which is from july 2th is a double spend, I got scammed by a horrible user which you can see in my other topic, long story short 20 Euro scammed in paypal... Best regards Harry Image: http://imgur.com/a/SDled
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July 06, 2017, 03:47:09 AM |
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To sum up, your transaction will never confirm since there's an output that was not confirmed and will never be confirmed since this transaction never shows on other block explorers together with your transaction posted on OP rather than blockchain,info. So basically your coins we're lost and never arrived on your wallet, so you have to contact the person who made this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/23f5ad53deeeec252fd0b63061c70788963938f50eaa5a3dedade73d47b295f9 to send the 0.0082134 BTC to your wallet again, that's why your transaction is not valid.
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July 06, 2017, 06:40:05 AM |
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To clairfy a few things, first of all yes I am using blockchain, I'll make a switch soon. Second, here is a image of the transaction you and me are talkinga about, as you can see the latest transaction is the one I am talking about 42 usd that I sent that is still unconfirmed. And under that you can see that I recived 42 dollars worth of btc which is a confirmed transaction. Image: http://imgur.com/a/SDledFirst of all, you need to stop talking in terms of "dollars"... the price of bitcoin flucuates... quite rapidly, so what is "42 usd" today, may be "50 usd" or "30 usd" tomorrow To illustrate this... I'm assuming that the confirmed transaction where you received "$43.50" was this one: a149de70b5e2c4273c7f54525a1d983438a2d17787d677d025cbaee75707af87Your address (1CsLhHpePbgh8t6btzBFvpvXYTAYb5Fg5Q) actually received: 0.01665542 BTCYou have then attempted to send "$43.74" to 1CcVXweAUJEWYYJEqUQzDgzRH7omQXjEWJ... which was 0.01665542 BTC... see how the same amount of BTC is now worth an extra $0.24c! Anyway, because you attempted to send the FULL amount (0.01665542), there wasn't any left over for mining fees... so b.info needed to add in an extra input to your transaction to cover the mining fees. Unfortunately for you, the input it decided to use comes from an unconfirmed transaction (as blockchain.info likes to let people use outputs from unconfirmed transactions... ) Eventually, if you're really lucky, blockchain.info will stop re-broadcasting your transaction and your coins will be respendable... Having said that, I've seen b.info continue to rebroadcast other peoples transactions for several weeks. The transaction itself looks like it hasn't propogated properly (most likely due to that whole chain of unconfirmed transactions originating from the so-called "bitcoin doubler"). You might want to contact their support, give them your Transaction ID and ask them if they can remove it from your wallet and their mempool and stop rebroadcasting it. Alternatively, you can put your 12 word backup seed in an offline copy of the mnemonic code converter ( https://iancoleman.github.io/bip39/)... Leave everything else untouched... and your addresses/private keys should be listed at the bottom. Import or sweep the private key for your 1CcVXweAUJEWYYJEqUQzDgzRH7omQXjEWJ address (or all your addresses) to another wallet and you should be able to respend those coins. (NOTE: If you want to find ALL your coins/addresses, you may need to set the "External/Internal" value to 1 to get your "Change Address(es) and private keys")
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Harry5555 (OP)
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July 06, 2017, 02:44:44 PM |
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Note, this case is closed, The user above helped me out, thank you! Funds recovered and I abandoned the crappy blockchain.
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Muhammed Zakir
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July 08, 2017, 11:40:26 AM Last edit: July 08, 2017, 03:26:23 PM by Muhammed Zakir |
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Do you know why only Blockchain.info is recognizing this tx and how is someone able to do this kind of transaction that will never confirm? I already saw one of those "Bitcoin Doublers" using this kind of transaction only visible by the blockchain.info explorer but never got a answer on why is this possible. If you use a transaction which uses an input which is considered as invalid by a node, your transaction won't be mined and hence, unconfirmed forever. All nodes reject double-spend transactions or transactions which use a double-spend transaction as input or a transaction which uses an unconfirmed input which has double-spend transaction as input and so forth. But for some reason, Blockchain.info don't do that. Blockchain.info's mempool configuration is different from other block explorers. Therefore, you will be able to see such transactions and also "unconfirmed" balances in Blockchain.info. Mempool - A place where node store transactions which it consider as valid. You can configure it in different ways. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/46152/how-do-transactions-leave-the-memory-poolhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1939408.msg19284845#msg19284845. P.S. Normally, nodes also reject dust transactions, though, afaik blockchain.info don't. Edit: Like crairezx20 already mentioned, this thread is closed. So please create a new thread in Development & Technical Discussion board if you have more doubts. To calculate transaction fee, I recommend https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#24h using as reference.
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July 08, 2017, 01:54:03 PM Last edit: July 08, 2017, 02:17:32 PM by crairezx20 |
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Do you know why only Blockchain.info is recognizing this tx and how is someone able to do this kind of transaction that will never confirm? I already saw one of those "Bitcoin Doublers" using this kind of transaction only visible by the blockchain.info explorer but never got a answer on why is this possible. If you use a transaction which uses an input which is considered as invalid by a node, your transaction won't be mined and hence, unconfirmed forever. All nodes reject double-spend transactions or transactions which use a double-spend transaction as input or a transaction which uses an unconfirmed input which has double-spend transaction as input and so forth. But for some reason, Blockchain.info don't do that. Blockchain.info's mempool configuration is different from other block explorers. Therefore, you will be able to see such transactions and also "unconfirmed" balances in Blockchain.info. Mempool - A place where node store transactions which it consider as valid. You can configure it in different ways. https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/46152/how-do-transactions-leave-the-memory-poolhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1939408.msg19284845#msg19284845. P.S. Normally, nodes also reject dust transactions, though, afaik blockchain.info don't. Well i think you don't need to start a debate here since op stated that this is closed and his problem was solved.. This is what i am experience before and i think you can receive the funds reverse that is why i am not paying small amount of fee when making any transaction you should always check this https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ and you are always safe to use always a updated wallet like electrum wallet.. you can always choose to put the default fee so that you will never experience any delayed transaction Note, this case is closed, The user above helped me out, thank you! Funds recovered and I abandoned the crappy blockchain.
I recommend to use electrum next time you are dealing or transfering your funds because you can check the replaceable transaction fee anytime if your transactions is high size and low fee you can replace the fee..
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July 08, 2017, 02:02:21 PM |
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Since the problem was solved already maybe you can now lock this thread to stop spamming answers from different users. Regards. Note, this case is closed, The user above helped me out, thank you! Funds recovered and I abandoned the crappy blockchain.
And that's nice that you saw this bad side of using this blockchain,info wallet. Hopr you learned from several suggestions on this forum.
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Tyrantt
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July 18, 2017, 09:49:03 PM |
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So I basiclly lost some coins there?
The transaction will eventually be forgotten by the network. Your wallet will make the CONFIRMED balance of bitcoins available for you to create new transactions with. The bigger concern is how you received those 0.0082134 BTC. The person that sent those to you was either scammed by the person that sent them some bitcoins, OR was trying to scam you. These bitcoins travel multiple times through the "Bitcoin Magic Doubler" scam address. It is very likely that those 0.0082134 BTC will never confirm and will eventually disappear from your wallet when the network forgets the transaction, and your wallet chooses to drop it. EDIT: By the way, you should probably stop using the blockchain.info wallet. They've got a reputation for having quite a few problems historically. Instead, consider any of many the wallets listed at https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-walletyou can pick if you want a cheap transaction or an express one that will get confirmed in an hour or so, or you can set the fee yourself. I've had this problem once and since them I'm looking at what I'm doing and imho, blockchain.info wallet has been pretty good for me and I've been using it for a few years now without any problems on their side.
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Need some spare btc for a new PC that can at least run Adobe Dreamweaver.
BTC - 19qm3kH4MZELkefEb55HCe4Y5jgRRLCQmn ♦♦♦ ETH - 0xd71ACd8781d66393eBfc3Acd65B224e97Ae1952D
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July 19, 2017, 04:23:06 AM |
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blockchain.info wallet has been pretty good for me and I've been using it for a few years now without any problems on their side.
Then you either aren't paying attention, or you are very lucky. When you eventually do have a problem, perhaps you'll remember making this statement.
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