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June 20, 2011, 04:50:14 PM
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Shows what you know about engineering and computer hardware.

When you run them @ 100% they do *not* last for years.  Try months. As in, count-on-one-hand single-digit months.


Not necessarily true, my 5870s have been crunching 24/7 one thing or another since release.
They show no signs of degradation, all are reference design.
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June 20, 2011, 04:51:46 PM
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just saying. these threads are old.  yes i should know better than to egg him on because now i look like the a-hole.  oh well... been a stressful week and it would be nice if the forums were filled with useful information.  If he's really honestly trying to help people then i am sorry, but i just don't see that being the case.

(ps newegg does all that shit minus the thumbdrives for everyone.. why do you think people use them)

sorry for going off the deep end peeps.
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June 20, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
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Synaptic - Cool story, thanks for sharing

evlew - fuck off our forums, brah.

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June 20, 2011, 04:55:45 PM
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adorable story, so you wet your diaper and left mining ? Atleast the sun did rise today.

Yeah man!  I left and made the difficulty easier for you!

Isn't that exciting!?

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June 20, 2011, 04:56:01 PM
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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".
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June 20, 2011, 04:59:23 PM
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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".


The only thing that ages in a fan that isn't physically damaged is the lubricant.

If you lift the stickers off of most sleeve fans there is a nib you can put oil into, or if it's a real cheapie, a screw so you can take the blade assembly off to get to the reservoir.

If you let that lubricant degrade, then yes, you can lockup your sleeve fans pretty easily, especially if it's in a dusty environment.

But even then, fans last a lot longer than a matter of months...unless they're really, really cheap ass fans (of which I've had a few of!).
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June 20, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
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I don't know...XFX has some pretty cheap fans.
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June 20, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
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In my experience, if a fan doesn't start making crazy noises in the first month of use, it has lasted me the entire life of the card

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June 20, 2011, 05:12:16 PM
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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

I assume you're talking to me.

2 XFX
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They don't need more than 60% fan speed, that's at 1ghz/1.225v.
All cards are running 65-70°c in 2 different boxes.


And I 100% agree with PcChip, 1 Sapph fan went bad in the first month, smooth sailing since.
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June 20, 2011, 05:19:47 PM
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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".
Even at 100% 24/7 though, they're not going to last mere months.

Heck, I've had computers that I left on 24/7 folding for a couple of years and the fans were just fine.  All of them.

The only time I've had a computer fan die is if it was one of those really small and cheap 40mm fans on a really small and cheap video card (like an 8400GS or something) that was running for a couple of years at least, and the fan in my laptop finally died after leaving it on 24/7 for 6 years.

Seriously, if a fan dies on a high-end video card in a matter of months, it was a faulty fan to begin with.
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June 20, 2011, 05:26:41 PM
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Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?
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June 20, 2011, 05:28:43 PM
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Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

Yeah that guy decided this whole endeavor was a fucking stupid waste of time and cut any potential losses before he got disappointed in himself for being such a dipshit.
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June 20, 2011, 05:30:37 PM
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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

I assume you're talking to me.

2 XFX
2 Sapph

They don't need more than 60% fan speed, that's at 1ghz/1.225v.
All cards are running 65-70°c in 2 different boxes.


And I 100% agree with PcChip, 1 Sapph fan went bad in the first month, smooth sailing since.

Did you check your VRM temps on those cards? because my Asus reference 5850 runs at 1020 mhz, 300 mem, 1.2v and with 50% fan the VRM gets up to 140 degrees wich is 10 degrees above max supported operating temp of the chips according to the datasheet...
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June 20, 2011, 05:30:55 PM
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Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

Yeah the OP basically made a post showing off that he's a huge asshole. He's "loyal to newegg" as long as it doesn't cost him anything, basically he's loyal to them to screw over other customers. He wants to call up newegg and tell them whats going on after his own refund has been processed. Genuine Class that one.

And for some reason it's turned into a stupid debate about fans afterwards. The MTBF for gpu fans is 50,000 hours, the concept that spinning it fast reduces this by a factor of 10 or more is retarded. Let's not discuss this anymore shall we?
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June 20, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

I assume you're talking to me.

2 XFX
2 Sapph

They don't need more than 60% fan speed, that's at 1ghz/1.225v.
All cards are running 65-70°c in 2 different boxes.


And I 100% agree with PcChip, 1 Sapph fan went bad in the first month, smooth sailing since.

Did you check your VRM temps on those cards? because my Asus reference 5850 runs at 1020 mhz, 300 mem, 1.2v and with 50% fan the VRM gets up to 140 degrees wich is 10 degrees above max supported operating temp of the chips according to the datasheet...

Of course, top cards mid 70°c, bottom cards are mid 60°c.
The 5850 probably has an inferior design, IDK for sure.
Does it have the heat pipe on the base plate for the vregs?
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June 20, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
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Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

Yeah the OP basically made a post showing off that he's a huge asshole. He's "loyal to newegg" as long as it doesn't cost him anything, basically he's loyal to them to screw over other customers. He wants to call up newegg and tell them whats going on after his own refund has been processed. Genuine Class that one.

And for some reason it's turned into a stupid debate about fans afterwards. The MTBF for gpu fans is 50,000 hours, the concept that spinning it fast reduces this by a factor of 10 or more is retarded. Let's not discuss this anymore shall we?

Oh cool. He's just like a politician/CEO now. Can't take responsibly for his choices, so gets bailed out/lies about it. Now newegg is losing out because you're too greedy. Loyal customer my ass.
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June 20, 2011, 05:51:43 PM
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Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

Yeah the OP basically made a post showing off that he's a huge asshole. He's "loyal to newegg" as long as it doesn't cost him anything, basically he's loyal to them to screw over other customers. He wants to call up newegg and tell them whats going on after his own refund has been processed. Genuine Class that one.

And for some reason it's turned into a stupid debate about fans afterwards. The MTBF for gpu fans is 50,000 hours, the concept that spinning it fast reduces this by a factor of 10 or more is retarded. Let's not discuss this anymore shall we?

Oh cool. He's just like a politician/CEO now. Can't take responsibly for his choices, so gets bailed out/lies about it. Now newegg is losing out because you're too greedy. Loyal customer my ass.

Man, next you'll all be berating me for my choice to wear ladies undergarments...

...I'm just never going to catch a break here am I?

Shit, first the admins delete from existence the most popular thread on these entire forums criticizing MtGox during the crisis that I had the pleasure of creating, and now this...

I'm just, devastated.
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June 20, 2011, 05:52:38 PM
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Hmmm... That means there are going to be tons of open-box bargains on Newegg!

BUY EVERYTHING!

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June 20, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
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Don't worry, mommy will bail you out. Or newegg. Or the gubernment. Or Jebus. Just don't cut your finger playing in the big bad world.

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June 20, 2011, 05:59:05 PM
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Don't worry, mommy will bail you out. Or newegg. Or the gubernment. Or Jebus. Just don't cut your finger playing in the big bad world.

Thanks, I'll call my mommy shortly to strengthen that bridge just in case the big bad world comes knocking at my door again.

LOL...

Yep, cause the FIRST thing that comes to my mind when I think about "bitcoin" is harsh realities of the REAL world.


LOL, Omg today has been the most uplifting experience I've had with anything to do with bitcoins to date.

I sincerely appreciate everyone's contribution to my farewell parties.

There will be a few more to come, assuredly.

You're all invited.
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