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July 12, 2017, 06:46:41 PM
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I think it would not be good if in life in this world without gods, because that governs all life in the world all governed by the command of god, if no god means there is no world.

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July 12, 2017, 07:30:09 PM
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Hey guys,

Religion (a belief in imaginary all powerful supernatural deities) has been the cause of more death and suffering than any one disease ever to inflict the human race. Wouldn't it be nice if we could start working on a cure for that.



Yeah, and you are going to suceed where Marx, Freud, Nietsche and other bright minds miserably failed. Good luck with that.

Ive heard, that Scientology is modarely succesful as money grabbing enterprise for its founders and high ranking members, you might find some inspiration there.

The fact is, that, if you even insist on the idea of good - you have to define where and how it originates and what is its opposite.

And then you have even bigger challenge ahead of you - how to legitimaze your particular worldview. At no point in history were there so many people and vast majority of them are religious - or atleast partial to any secular ideology, that tries to substitute for one.
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July 12, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
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July 13, 2017, 02:27:11 AM
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Hey guys,

Religion (a belief in imaginary all powerful supernatural deities) has been the cause of more death and suffering than any one disease ever to inflict the human race. Wouldn't it be nice if we could start working on a cure for that.




Sorry but there is a God. Just look at yourself. It's like we were designed in an amazing way. But I agree that religion made some believers do crazy things throughout history. Some are because of Christianity and some are cults. That's why even I am a Christian I just believe in God but not the context of the bible. They give it more meanings and that is why they make stupid things.

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July 13, 2017, 07:02:00 AM
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Hey guys,

Religion (a belief in imaginary all powerful supernatural deities) has been the cause of more death and suffering than any one disease ever to inflict the human race. Wouldn't it be nice if we could start working on a cure for that.




Sorry but there is a God. Just look at yourself. It's like we were designed in an amazing way. But I agree that religion made some believers do crazy things throughout history. Some are because of Christianity and some are cults. That's why even I am a Christian I just believe in God but not the context of the bible. They give it more meanings and that is why they make stupid things.

Agreed.... Incredible design indeed...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0

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July 13, 2017, 10:32:34 AM
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How can you say that religion cause many death than disease does?  Was it because of the so called Muslim terrorist and the terrorist around the world were Muslim?  Actually they are the only religion which killing as these terrorist said is part of their teachings.  Actually, we can live without religion.  But I believe still that there is God and does not have to prove it.  I feel Him everyday, His grace and mercy is abundant to everyone.  Do not need a debate on this, as long as we do not harm each other, "maybe" that would be okay.  But I still stand that there is God and I can not do anything without Him.

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July 13, 2017, 02:26:29 PM
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I don't think so any religion is causing harm to the people in society.

 Grin

Look at all religions, see the followers of these religions, you will realize that most of these members of these religions are just puppets without their own lives

But the leaders of these religions are very rich and well sucessed in life

But I believe still that there is God and does not have to prove it.  I feel Him everyday, His grace and mercy is abundant to everyone.  Do not need a debate on this, as long as we do not harm each other, "maybe" that would be okay.  But I still stand that there is God and I can not do anything without Him.

You are the owner of your life, the choices you make today will determine your success or failure in the future.

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July 13, 2017, 02:48:50 PM
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Hey guys,

Religion (a belief in imaginary all powerful supernatural deities) has been the cause of more death and suffering than any one disease ever to inflict the human race. Wouldn't it be nice if we could start working on a cure for that.



 Having a religion or a God doesn't matter as long as you are not hurting others nor belittle their belief. If you are saying that religion makes war or racism, it is not always the main scenario. Having a religion helps and improve the morality of a person in some ways.

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July 13, 2017, 03:23:54 PM
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Religion will turn you into a slave for sure. It will siphon off the last bit of your clear thinking mind and drain your soul. There will be those few that benefit in this process. These are the ones who will get drenched in riches at your expense. How can this be good and godly? No thank you, I'm good without a God.

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July 13, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
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You little insects are full of yourselves, you think that your opinion really matters? you think if you can't see a star in a remote galaxy it means that star doesn't exist? all is needed is 5 seconds without your heart working for you to die and suddenly you all became so independent and think you can live all on your own, you pathetic stupid creatures.

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July 13, 2017, 07:26:33 PM
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It's true that many problems are religions fault, but also many people keep going on thanks to them.
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July 13, 2017, 08:51:35 PM
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I am an atheist but I can recognize the massive good that religion has done in the world. Of course i also recognize the damage but I am not so blind as to hate something that I dont understand. When i was homeless the only shelters that were available to care for me were religiously funded youth shelters and while i never understood blind faith i certainly understand the underlying tenets of being kind and treating others how you would want to be treated.
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July 14, 2017, 09:40:49 AM
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WE are so used to thinking of spirituality as withdrawal from the world and human affairs that it is hard to think of it as political. Spirituality is personal and private, we assume, while politics is public. But such a dichotomy drastically diminishes spirituality construing it as a relationship to God without implications for one's relationship to the surrounding world. The God of Christian faith (I shall focus on Christianity although the God of the New Testament is also the God of the Old Testament) created the world and is deeply engaged in the affairs of the world. The notion that we can be related to God and not to the world—that we can practice a spirituality that is not political—is in conflict with the Christian understanding of God.

And if spirituality is properly political, the converse also is true, however distant it may be from prevailing assumptions: politics is properly spiritual. The spirituality of politics was affirmed by Plato at the very beginnings of Western political philosophy and was a commonplace of medieval political thought. Only in modern times has it come to be taken for granted that politics is entirely secular. The inevitable result is the demoralization of politics. Politics loses its moral structure and purpose, and turns into an affair of group interest and personal ambition. Government comes to the aid of only the well organized and influential, and it is limited only where it is checked by countervailing forces.
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July 14, 2017, 10:14:55 AM
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I do not care who believes what, the main thing is that their faith and religion do not harm others. Every job has the right to choose what to believe, but you do not need to impose your choice on anyone.

That goes for the religious zealots as well as the anti-religious zealots.

Making fun of people for their beliefs is not a very mature way to get them to stop believing what they do.
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July 14, 2017, 10:18:07 AM
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Religion (a belief in imaginary all powerful supernatural deities) has been the cause of more death and suffering than any one disease ever to inflict the human race. Wouldn't it be nice if we could start working on a cure for that.


Hey Guys i want you to know that everything is made up of good, if some strange happens seems to be bad we dont deserve to be bad because sometimes we believe in differrent thing i dont knoe whats up to them..simple thigs happens. We have a God to belive and some others will not. we dont judge every one because there is no edge of all mankind. we are all equal. In this multi-universe we took care of our bussiness, to have power not like god that infinte he has. a power to succeed.
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August 14, 2017, 09:55:58 AM
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Maybe its true. The value of goodness is in our hearts, we live in it and no one ever thought us how to be good. Believing in God is not what we are born with, it is thought by our parents as we began to appreciate little things in the world.

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August 14, 2017, 10:39:41 AM
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It is no ruse that there is a supreme being, the one that other gods look up to for permission most times (& thats God ) - do we still remember that lucifer took permission to tempt Job?

Everything we do is intertwined & a supreme being somewhere is watching.
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August 14, 2017, 11:01:50 AM
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Religion is by far the most sensitive topic out there because we are dealing with faith and belief. It has become a grand discussion for debates wherein believers and non-believers would battle it out tryin to prove each other's point of view. But in reality, nobody really needs to prove anything! I am proud to say that I'm a Cristian and that Christ is my Lord and Savior because that is my faith.  I can introduce Christ to my friends but I cannot force them into believing and accepting. They will need to experience an encounter with Christ for them to trully believe. But all of this will happen in God's time. We need God...and that's the bottom line. God bless.

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August 14, 2017, 11:16:34 AM
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Everyone can believe in what he wants to believe until his faith or religion harms others and he does not force them to believe in his religion. There are many adequate religious people and there is nothing wrong with that.

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August 14, 2017, 12:01:26 PM
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I totally agree with you on that, there are forces who cause suffering and death in this world. As the saying goes the spiritual control the physical either good or bad we must accept that fact.

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