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July 12, 2017, 12:40:08 PM
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What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.


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July 12, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
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What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.

Are you aware that if there will be a fork at August 1st, we will have a Bitcoin and a new altcoin?
Meaning, be careful, you may end up holding a shitcoin  Grin


I agree with RoommateAgreement, some of the altcoins bring innovation. Bitcoin has a chance to learn from them.
Of course, there are also too many useless copycat altcoins...

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July 12, 2017, 12:49:44 PM
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Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

We should not assume, look at the truth, people are still arguing, this will lead to the division of bitcoin, and the value of bitcoin will certainly decrease.

most of these people who are arguing are either idiots who don't understand what is going on and just love to argue and win an argument to feel good or they are shills doing this for some hidden agenda and in order to create chaos.
some are even altcoin pumpers who think they can gain some foothold if they harm bitcoin.
Maybe many of those who support the panic associated with bitcoin just want to take a moment and buy as many coins as possible? I kind of like it. Those who remain faithful bitcoin will become more resistant to stress and in the future, whales will be more difficult to destabilize the situation.

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July 12, 2017, 01:00:27 PM
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What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.

if something were doing things far better than bitcoin, then it would have replaced bitcoin already. i'm afraid that thing does not exist.
but at the same time it doesn't mean all altcoins have nothing to offer.

example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph
and remember there is always advantages and disadvantages to any of these even bitcoin.

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July 12, 2017, 02:45:19 PM
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Only if the hardfork is a failure as expected. In order for the bitcoin price to go up, the Bitmain/Roger Ver/Wright/anything that could lead to a hardfork/ must die and fail. XT, Classic, Buggy Unlimited, and segwit2x, they all have failed because it's retarded nonsense. This should not be any different. Im not even counting BitmainCoin's hardfork proposal.

After all these morons give up with the HF fud, we will go to $10,000. As long as the stupidity continues, we will stay as we are now or crash indefinitely.

We could go to $10,000 tomorrow, if miners acted accordingly and activated BIP141, or we can continue playing games.

There is no incentive for all miners to destroy the technology. People like Jihan wants his JihanCoin to succeed, so he will go all out to mess

around with Bitcoin Core. {Original Bitcoin} How will merchants and big companies support JihanCoin, if he was part of a group of people who

destroyed a Billion Dollar network? He has to re-think his strategy, because the current plan is going to explode in his face.  Roll Eyes

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July 12, 2017, 02:45:56 PM
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Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)
It is supposed to be like that because without enough support segwit will not be activated by august this year.
The only danger we have right now is possible split of bitcoin network after activation of segwit.



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July 12, 2017, 02:57:17 PM
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Only if the hardfork is a failure as expected. In order for the bitcoin price to go up, the Bitmain/Roger Ver/Wright/anything that could lead to a hardfork/ must die and fail. XT, Classic, Buggy Unlimited, and segwit2x, they all have failed because it's retarded nonsense. This should not be any different. Im not even counting BitmainCoin's hardfork proposal.

After all these morons give up with the HF fud, we will go to $10,000. As long as the stupidity continues, we will stay as we are now or crash indefinitely.

We could go to $10,000 tomorrow, if miners acted accordingly and activated BIP141, or we can continue playing games.

There is no incentive for all miners to destroy the technology. People like Jihan wants his JihanCoin to succeed, so he will go all out to mess

around with Bitcoin Core. {Original Bitcoin} How will merchants and big companies support JihanCoin, if he was part of a group of people who

destroyed a Billion Dollar network? He has to re-think his strategy, because the current plan is going to explode in his face.  Roll Eyes

i believe what you call his strategy is not a strategy to create a new coin which you are calling Jihan coin Cheesy
his strategy is to prevent or at the very least delay SegWit activation as long as possible, with threats with bullshit like their article about UAHF and hashrate,... but in the end they also have a lot of money at stake. it is not just the mining hashpower it is their mining production line bitmain. they won't be able to sell their thing anymore if they harm bitcoin or its price.


 
 
 
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July 12, 2017, 03:01:13 PM
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Are you aware that if there will be a fork at August 1st, we will have a Bitcoin and a new altcoin?
Meaning, be careful, you may end up holding a shitcoin  Grin


I agree with RoommateAgreement, some of the altcoins bring innovation. Bitcoin has a chance to learn from them.
Of course, there are also too many useless copycat altcoins...

What innovation? Examples?

What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.

if something were doing things far better than bitcoin, then it would have replaced bitcoin already. i'm afraid that thing does not exist.
but at the same time it doesn't mean all altcoins have nothing to offer.

example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph
and remember there is always advantages and disadvantages to any of these even bitcoin.

So first you say

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins

and then

if something were doing things far better than bitcoin, then it would have replaced bitcoin already. i'm afraid that thing does not exist.

I've asked you for those features in altcoins that would determine a user to use that altcoin instead of bitcoin. One...
And fancy words and wiki links don't count Wink.


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People cast your vote and lets see the population's point of view on Bitcoin price before August 1.

Here is the poll link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2015139.msg20078967#msg20078967

Let us hear what you think.

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I think there's a big chance that that will happen. Lots of people are fleeing the market right now, by converting their crypto holdings into fiat, because they're scared of the potential hard fork. But I bet they will be kicking themselves when bitcoin goes crazy after august (1st).
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July 12, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
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Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)
If everything goes as planned? Yes but that is a huge if, I do not know if the miners are going to continue with their plan to fork bitcoin, if they do then things will get really complicated for a long time, maybe the two bitcoin will keep on existing and this will only create confusion among the people that are not very informed about crypto news.

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Already bitcoin is pumping start now.

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I dont know. But im thinking positive, maybe it will raise the price of bitcoin just like what happen to litecoin's price when it full activated segwit.

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July 12, 2017, 11:05:57 PM
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I dont know. But im thinking positive, maybe it will raise the price of bitcoin just like what happen to litecoin's price when it full activated segwit.

Yes, we need to be positive. We don't need to listen to FUD that is going around saying that bitcoin will crash so hard after the segwit2x implementation. We may see the price goes down, but I don't think it will crash hard and go below sub 1000$. And just like when it was implemented in LTC, the price will surely go up right after the activation.

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Already bitcoin is pumping start now.

Its going down because people are rushing to secure there positions in the lead up to this.  With all the hype and shit talking about what "could or should" happen has not helped the situation.

Also like said above with bitmain throwing the toys out the pram wanting to split away is a crazy idea.


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I think there's a big chance that that will happen. Lots of people are fleeing the market right now, by converting their crypto holdings into fiat, because they're scared of the potential hard fork. But I bet they will be kicking themselves when bitcoin goes crazy after august (1st).
The blocksize gives the support to the mass adoption after the hardfork already done smoothly. Those are converting their bitcoin to the fiat must pay more after the hardfork already done. Bitcoin goes crazy after august. They will lose caused by the scary feel. I can't be patience to see the bitcoin touch another ATH in august. That's why the USDT become a trend right now.

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July 13, 2017, 04:04:56 PM
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I dont know. But im thinking positive, maybe it will raise the price of bitcoin just like what happen to litecoin's price when it full activated segwit.
Me too, if everything works like predicted than we might not have to worry about possible hardfork after segwit. Segwit activation have bought positive result on litecoin's price and all other crypto before so bitcoin might get similar uptrend after august 1st.

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July 14, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
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Are you aware that if there will be a fork at August 1st, we will have a Bitcoin and a new altcoin?
Meaning, be careful, you may end up holding a shitcoin  Grin


I agree with RoommateAgreement, some of the altcoins bring innovation. Bitcoin has a chance to learn from them.
Of course, there are also too many useless copycat altcoins...

What innovation? Examples?

No limit (2Gb limit?) for transactions in a block; real anonymity; DAG; mining algorithms that allow every average Joe to mine; faster blocks.
These are just a few things that came into my mind, I am sure that there are many more examples, you just have to try to look around.

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Only if the hardfork is a failure as expected. In order for the bitcoin price to go up, the Bitmain/Roger Ver/Wright/anything that could lead to a hardfork/ must die and fail. XT, Classic, Buggy Unlimited, and segwit2x, they all have failed because it's retarded nonsense. This should not be any different. Im not even counting BitmainCoin's hardfork proposal.

After all these morons give up with the HF fud, we will go to $10,000. As long as the stupidity continues, we will stay as we are now or crash indefinitely.

We could go to $10,000 tomorrow, if miners acted accordingly and activated BIP141, or we can continue playing games

They will never do this

Since doing this or anything to that tune would be equal to them shooting themselves right in the head. I don't think that many ordinary Bitcoin holders or traders would be against them doing that, but they obviously won't. It is clear as day that they will lay themselves out and leave no stone unturned to defend the profits that they have managed to squeeze from users these last months. If pure SegWit gets activated, their days are basically numbered, that's why we see so frantic, so frenzied and desperate resistance to SegWit activation. Even SegWit2x itself is no more than a trap shrewdly laid on a path to SegWit

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Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

I will vote for yes, if most miners signal for segwit and it could be activated before November 15th. We know segwit will resolve bitcoin problems and may become scaling solution. So, I expect more adopters will attracted to this amazing digital currency and more merchants accepted bitcoin payment.
But on the other side, segwit2x get many supports as well, whether it could activated through BIP141 or BIP91 that cause chain split. We will wait and see how segwit-BIP141 will get support by most miners and could it reach 95% of hash power? before the deadline.

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